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EPA Decree Shrinks Size of Wyoming by a Million Acres -
CNS News ^ | 01/21/2014 | Matt Vepsa

Posted on 01/21/2014 8:19:59 AM PST by Rusty0604

Why is the EPA altering state boundaries in Wyoming - and reversing over 100 years of established law? Well, apparently the city of Riverton now falls under the jurisdiction of the Wind River Indian Reservation.

Wyoming Governor Matt Mead warned of the dangers to all Americans of this type of unilateral land redistribution by the EPA: ...My deep concern is about an administrative agency of the federal government altering a state's boundary and going against over 100 years of history and law.

"This should be a concern to all citizens because, if the EPA can unilaterally take land away from a state, where will it stop?" Governor Matt Mead said in a press release on January 6.

"It is outrageous to me that a regulatory agency has proposed changing jurisdictional boundaries established by history and the Courts. I have asked the Attorney General to challenge this decision and defend the existing boundaries of the reservation.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Wyoming
KEYWORDS: abuseofpower; agenda21; communism; epa; epaoutofcontrol; foreignpowers; govtabuse; illegal; impeach; indianreservation; lawsuit; monsanto; montananext; riverton; stateboundaries; tyranny; un21; unagenda21; unsagenda21; wyoming
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1 posted on 01/21/2014 8:19:59 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604
Why is the EPA altering state boundaries in Wyoming - and reversing over 100 years of established law? Well, apparently the city of Riverton now falls under the jurisdiction of the Wind River Indian Reservation.
"You shall not move your neighbor's landmark..."
-- Deuteronomy 19:14

2 posted on 01/21/2014 8:23:45 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Rusty0604

“Why is the EPA altering state boundaries in Wyoming - and reversing over 100 years of established law?”

Because “he won”, that’s why.


3 posted on 01/21/2014 8:26:30 AM PST by V_TWIN
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4 posted on 01/21/2014 8:29:37 AM PST by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: Rusty0604

By what authority does an administrative agency transfer American sovereignty away ?


5 posted on 01/21/2014 8:29:46 AM PST by faithhopecharity (C)
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To: Rusty0604
if the EPA can unilaterally take land away from a state, where will it stop?

It will stop when the UN's Agenda 21 is fully implemented -- unless the American people wake up and stop it themselves. They are still very much asleep.

6 posted on 01/21/2014 8:30:31 AM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: Rusty0604

...government of the vested aristocracy, by the elite rulers, for their patronized sycophants,shall not perish from the earth.


7 posted on 01/21/2014 8:31:05 AM PST by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: V_TWIN

Because he has a pen.


8 posted on 01/21/2014 8:31:27 AM PST by wintertime
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To: Rusty0604

Bump


9 posted on 01/21/2014 8:31:28 AM PST by lowbridge
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To: Rusty0604

“This should be a concern to all citizens because, if the EPA can unilaterally take land away from a state, where will it stop?” Governor Matt Mead said in a press release on January 6. “

Geez, you’d think a Governor would have a unilateral of his own to answer with. Instead he sounds like some kind of bystander taking notice and commenting.


10 posted on 01/21/2014 8:33:40 AM PST by TalBlack
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To: Alex Murphy

Good one.


11 posted on 01/21/2014 8:35:48 AM PST by VRW Conspirator ( 2+2 = V)
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To: TalBlack

Why isn’t he knocking on the door to the Supreme Court?


12 posted on 01/21/2014 8:36:26 AM PST by garyb
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To: Rusty0604
accord to pResident 0'ButtCrack, we're all just (hated) "occupiers" anyway,
no property rights..just greedy kulaks or penniless serfs both in need of control.
HAIL TO THE STATE (POWER)!
nothing else matters, the state controls all aspects of life..esp. DeathCARE.

13 posted on 01/21/2014 8:38:48 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi)
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To: y'all

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http://wyofile.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/wrir_map.jpg


14 posted on 01/21/2014 8:39:56 AM PST by deks
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To: Rusty0604
Since oboma was given his affirmative action presidency, we now have 10 states who say their greatest desire is to succeed. This desire to leave our currant form of government is new. This says a lot about where this country is headed.

Texas will be the first to leave the union, and the rest of the red states will gleefully follow. The blue states will be left to struggle on their own.

15 posted on 01/21/2014 8:41:22 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: deks

Is there any current or proposed oil drilling or anything else the EPA doesn’t like going on in that area?


16 posted on 01/21/2014 8:43:30 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

Team BO is, as Charles Krauthammer has so perfectly pointed out, is lawless.

Law is defined moment by moment in this perverted time of cult worship of pretend leaders.

No media questioning is even fathomed in this day, only a repetition of the regime’s talking points.


17 posted on 01/21/2014 8:47:40 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: Rusty0604

Riverton is centrally located on the eastern slope of the Wind River Range, where Oil and Gas Drilling is expanding at a quick pace. The Western slope of the Winds has pretty much been all drilled and wells are in place.


18 posted on 01/21/2014 8:48:04 AM PST by Whenifhow
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To: SoFloFreeper

This is all about setting the precedent that a federal agency can confiscate property without due process. The fact that it involves native tribes is intended to shut down dissent from the left and make the right look like genocidal maniacs. Everything Obama is doing to give the Feds greater power with no redress fits this “crumbs for the disempowered model.”


19 posted on 01/21/2014 8:50:23 AM PST by Whenifhow
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To: Rusty0604
This appears to violate Article IV Section 3 of the Constitution.


Section 3 - New States

New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new States shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.

The Congress shall have Power to dispose of and make all needful Rules and Regulations respecting the Territory or other Property belonging to the United States; and nothing in this Constitution shall be so construed as to Prejudice any Claims of the United States, or of any particular State.


If the EPA is taking land of one state and giving it to another state, Article IV Section 3 lays out that the legislatures of the states involved must approve of it, as well as Congres.

Why isn't Wyoming rushing to the Supreme Court to put a stop to this?

-PJ

20 posted on 01/21/2014 8:51:25 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: TalBlack

State contests reservation boundary for EPA air quality ruling
http://wyofile.com/ron_feemster/state-contests-reservation-boundary-epa-air-quality-ruling/

Wyoming asks EPA to reconsider reservation ruling
http://www.sfgate.com/news/science/article/Wyoming-asks-EPA-to-reconsider-reservation-ruling-5118789.php


21 posted on 01/21/2014 8:51:37 AM PST by Whenifhow
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To: anyone

For anyone interested, an EPA document [83 page .pdf]

“LEGAL ANALYSIS OF THE WIND RIVER INDIAN RESERVATION BOUNDARY”

http://www2.epa.gov/sites/production/files/2013-12/documents/attachment2capabilitystatement.pdf


22 posted on 01/21/2014 8:52:20 AM PST by deks
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To: Whenifhow

I wonder if this land grab will have any implications on the drilling or the profits?


23 posted on 01/21/2014 8:53:10 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604
Constitutionally speaking, the Indians have a point.

US Constitution, Section 6, Clause 2: This Constitution ...and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.

There were an awful lot of treaties made "under the Authority of the United States" with Indian tribes. Just about every one of them was broken. A strict reading of the Constitution would seem to say all those broken treaties are still "the supreme law of the land," trumping any state laws to the contrary.

I'm not sure whether this clause makes it clear if a law passed by Congress can override a Treaty.

24 posted on 01/21/2014 8:53:44 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

Should make it clear I’m not up on the specifics of this case.

My comment was more general in nature.


25 posted on 01/21/2014 8:54:42 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Whenifhow

Contesting any EPA reg can take years, hopefully Wyoming can win this quickly.


26 posted on 01/21/2014 8:57:46 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

This is happening because states have been negligent in stopping federal overreach. Give an inch, they take a mile.


27 posted on 01/21/2014 8:58:44 AM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheelbarrow)
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To: Political Junkie Too
If the EPA is taking land of one state and giving it to another state, Article IV Section 3 lays out that the legislatures of the states involved must approve of it, as well as Congres.

The EPA is outside of the Constitution. Why, it is only peripherally binding on the Congress, Judiciary and Executive. The idea behind this grab is that if Conservatives think they are going to pick up and leave liberal hell holes where governors push them out (ahhh.. ahhhhhhh.. aacccchhhhhhhhhhh.... CUOMO!)and move to "red" states, they'll squeeze the land of those states. It's the Agenda-21/ICLEI way.

28 posted on 01/21/2014 9:02:14 AM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: garyb
Why isn't he firing up his National Guard??

Force is stopped by only one means....Force.

29 posted on 01/21/2014 9:03:08 AM PST by Fedupwithit (Your opinion: It's all yours....don't expect me to listen to it, or even acknowledge it..)
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To: concerned about politics
we now have 10 states who say their greatest desire is to succeed

I suppose you mean "secede". It means something entirely different.

30 posted on 01/21/2014 9:03:11 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Sherman Logan

If the EPA or this administration is following the constitution, this will be a first.

After 100 years, one would have to ask, why now?

Will they now consider this?: “The name Aztlán was first taken up by a group of Chicano independence activists led by Oscar Zeta Acosta during the Chicano movement of the 1960s and 1970s. They used the name Aztlán to refer to the lands of Northern Mexico that were sold to the United States as a result of the Mexican-American War. Aztlán became a symbol for mestizo activists who believe they have a legal and primordial right to the land. In order to exercise this right, some members of the Chicano movement propose that a new nation be created, a República del Norte.”


31 posted on 01/21/2014 9:03:37 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Izzy Dunne

To secede is to succeed.


32 posted on 01/21/2014 9:05:14 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

Don’t we still have a Bureau of Indian Affairs? Isn’t this their job? And if not, what are we still paying them for?


33 posted on 01/21/2014 9:05:23 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: lonevoice

ping!


34 posted on 01/21/2014 9:05:49 AM PST by Pride in the USA
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To: Rusty0604

Imagine what EPA could do with a little more historical research and a continuing lack of concern
for FedGov's legitimacy. Perhaps CT and MA gun laws now apply anywhere FedGov wants them to.

35 posted on 01/21/2014 9:07:56 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Rusty0604

Treaties with foreign governments (like Indian tribes) require approval of the Senate.

This is an unConstitutional act.

...aw screw it, no one is listening...


36 posted on 01/21/2014 9:09:33 AM PST by Tzimisce
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To: Fedupwithit
Two minutes after he would fire up the National Guard, Obama would swoop in and nationalize them, pack them up, and ship ‘em to Afghanistan.
37 posted on 01/21/2014 9:09:42 AM PST by garyb
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To: faithhopecharity

I don’t think they do have the authority but when does that ever stop them? They lose in court all the time for their hijinks.


38 posted on 01/21/2014 9:13:20 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2; Rusty0604; C210N

My understanding is that regulations are challenged in the DC court - which is why Obama wants to stack the court with that nuclear option that passed in the senate.


39 posted on 01/21/2014 9:25:30 AM PST by Whenifhow
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To: garyb
Two minutes after he would fire up the National Guard, Obama would swoop in and nationalize them, pack them up, and ship ‘em to Afghanistan.

Joke will be on him cause he plans to have us out of there by Super Bowl XLIX.


40 posted on 01/21/2014 9:27:52 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Rusty0604; All

Wyoming Governor Matt Mead evidently hasn’t studied the Constitution which he swore to protect and defend. Otherwise, he would be able to stop the EPA in its tracks by arguing the following.

To begin with, the Founding States had made the first numbered clauses in the Constitution, Sections 1-3 of Article I, evidently a good place to hide them from politicians like Gov. Mead, to clarify that all federal legislative powers are vested in the elected members of Congress, not nonelected government bureaucrats. So Congress has a monopoly on federal legislative powers whether it wants it or not.

In fact, by unconstitutionally delegating federal legislative / regulatory powers to nonelected bureaucrats like those running the EPA, corrupt Congress is wrongly protecting federal legislative powers from the wrath of the voters in blatant defiance of the statutes referenced above.

And even if Congress had the constitutonal authority to delegate federal legislative powers to nonelected bureaucrats, it remains that the states have never delegated to Congress, via the Constitution, the specific power to regulate environmental issues. So EPA is exercising regulatory powers that Congress doesn’t even have.

What a mess! :^(

So politicians like Gov. Mead deserve to tremble in their boots as a consequence of not taking the responsibility to find out what the under 30 pages of the Constitution actually says about the federal government’s constitutionally limited powers.


41 posted on 01/21/2014 9:28:50 AM PST by Amendment10
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To: Rusty0604; Sherman Logan
"Contesting any EPA reg can take years"

The issue has been percolating for decades, and there are conflicting state supreme court decisions. In one case on water rights the city was ruled to be on the reservation and in a criminal case the city was ruled to be off the reservation.

These are both state laws/regs and the decision ultimately needs to be resolved by the federal courts, but they had no way of getting it into federal court.

Now, EPA, DOI, and the Justice dept make a decision revolving around air pollution and the Clean Air Act is federal, which allows them to take it into federal court.

The irony is that the Wyoming politicians didn't have any objections with this until the story went national and the right wing media picks it up, and now the politicians have to change their tune, or they might get unelected by a tea partier. Cheney's daughter might run for their office.

42 posted on 01/21/2014 9:28:52 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Whenifhow

That’s right, thanks for the reminder. So many things happening it’s hard to remember it all.


43 posted on 01/21/2014 9:36:25 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Ben Ficklin

See post 39


44 posted on 01/21/2014 9:38:14 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

That’s the DC court of appeals, the case is headed for the supreme court. The tribal water rights were established by the supreme court. Just a few months ago the supremes accepted parts of the CO2 pollution case on appeal from the DC court of appeals decision.


45 posted on 01/21/2014 9:51:02 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Whenifhow

My belief is that the Governor’s of these states need to just say no right up front and let the DOJ file a lawsuit. That way only the SCOTUS has jurisdiction not a Federal judge. The Governor tells the EPA and Holder “see you at the Supremes.”


46 posted on 01/21/2014 9:55:29 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: sauropod

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47 posted on 01/21/2014 9:57:00 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: Rusty0604
What business is it of the EPA to set the boundaries of Indian reservations? Reservations are defined by treaties that must be approved by Congress and the EPA in particular has no power to make these changes. What about the Fifth Amendment protections for private property owners who must be compensated for the government taking their land?
48 posted on 01/21/2014 9:57:01 AM PST by The Great RJ (Just wait untGe)
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To: Ben Ficklin

Thanks for the info.


49 posted on 01/21/2014 10:09:20 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: concerned about politics

The day after a state succeeds, it must turn off power and utilities to all Federal buildings in that state. Don’t give the bastards the opportunity.


50 posted on 01/21/2014 10:28:41 AM PST by DownInFlames
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