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The blunt truth White house drug czar contradicts Obama on marijuana
Washington Timesw ^ | 1/21/14 | Ernest Istook

Posted on 01/21/2014 10:12:57 AM PST by Nachum

President Obama’s latest claims about marijuana are contradicted by research and official positions of the Office of National Drug Control Policy, which is part of the White House. And Mr. Obama’s words have anti-drug leaders worried about negative repercussions among youth. Mr. Obama claimed to The New Yorker magazine that marijuana is no worse than cigarettes or alcohol and he promoted state efforts by Colorado and Washington to legalize marijuana, which remains illegal under federal law. The National Drug Control Policy’s official stance, posted on the whitehouse.gov website, says the opposite of Mr. Obama on all counts. For example, as documented in agency

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KEYWORDS: czar; dopersrights; drug; drugczar; dumbdownthenation; marijuana; obamalegacy; obamao; obamapot
President 'to-be-impeached' smoked a little too much choom.
1 posted on 01/21/2014 10:12:57 AM PST by Nachum
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

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2 posted on 01/21/2014 10:13:20 AM PST by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: Nachum

This would explain a lot about Mr. Choom Gang:

“...A number of studies have shown an association between chronic marijuana use and mental illness. High doses of marijuana can produce a temporary psychotic reaction (involving hallucinations and paranoia) in some users, and using marijuana can worsen the course of illness in patients with schizophrenia. A series of large prospective studies also showed a link between marijuana use and later development of psychosis....”

http://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/drugfacts/marijuana


4 posted on 01/21/2014 10:23:38 AM PST by 444Flyer (How long O LORD?)
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To: hosepipe

5 posted on 01/21/2014 10:24:22 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: Nachum

The nation is going to pot, the ‘blunt’ truth.


6 posted on 01/21/2014 10:27:03 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: Nachum

When I coached HS baseball, pot was not really a problem with the kids, and I suspect, would have shown-up in relatively listless behavior changes, etc. I used to tell those kids that their brains were undergoing their greatest changes since birth, and that smoking pot could really derail ambition and drive at their age. I’d joke with them that if they had to smoke it, to wait until they were retired.


7 posted on 01/21/2014 10:29:13 AM PST by onedoug
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To: Nachum

The Drug Czar really doesn’t have much choice. He’s legally obligated to support whatever the current policy is. In a self-governing republic, we’ve got government bureaucrats who are being paid with public tax money to prevent the citizens from trying to change the law.


8 posted on 01/21/2014 10:35:03 AM PST by tacticalogic
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To: 444Flyer
. . . . smartest guy in the room . . .

Mr. " I can play at this level" Obama once again opens his cake hole to prove that nothing but warm, bio effluent flows from it.

9 posted on 01/21/2014 10:35:05 AM PST by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.)
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To: Nachum
Most jobs now require a drug test. Did you think about that Mr. President before telling our kids it ok to get high?
10 posted on 01/21/2014 10:38:19 AM PST by McGruff (How's that Hopey Changey Thingy workin out for ya?)
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To: Nachum

Obama’s boss George Soros is one of the biggest backers of marijuana legalization in the U.S. and supposedly has billions invested in marijuana.

Nothing better than an entirely stoned nation for the socialists to have better control of.


11 posted on 01/21/2014 10:53:06 AM PST by kaehurowing
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To: 444Flyer

Obama is a “dry stoner,” with the residual brain damage effects. Although I wouldn’t be surprised if he still uses, since the media hides the fact he still smokes cigarettes as well.


12 posted on 01/21/2014 10:54:11 AM PST by kaehurowing
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To: 444Flyer
A number of studies have shown an association between chronic marijuana use and mental illness

The same can be said about a chronic alcohol abuser. They wind up with "wet brains" after a while, and obviously if they're stumbling down drunk then they're not operating at 100% mental capacity at that point (and if they're prone to getting drunk a lot, then they're probably never operating at full capacity).

13 posted on 01/21/2014 10:59:13 AM PST by Cementjungle
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To: Nachum

The Constitution contradicts the pResident’s ‘drug czar’. See ‘Prohibition’ and ‘passing an Amendment’ for more details.


14 posted on 01/21/2014 11:00:31 AM PST by i_robot73 (Give me one example and I will show where gov't is the root of the problem(s).)
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To: Nachum

We can know this: pot IS profoundly psychoactive. Also, anything inhaled through the lungs such as pot/cigs/cocaine/etc. near-rivals IV administration for blood saturation and IS more addictive than eating/chewing the product au naturel (e.g. pot brownies, coca leaves).

Some people bond with marijuana and become functionally addicted. Are they physically addicted as with heroin? No, but so what? Come Hell or high water they WILL get their pot! And it ain’t cheap.


15 posted on 01/21/2014 11:02:01 AM PST by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: McGruff
Most jobs now require a drug test. Did you think about that Mr. President before telling our kids it ok to get high?

Really? Most jobs? Things must have really gone downhill in the U.S. since I left for Germany (where I have never heard any of my colleagues or acquaintances mention such testing).

Requiring invasive medical procedures (blood samples, hair samples, etc.) or humiliating ones (urine samples) as a precondition for employment is an ethically quite troubling issue. With the exception of airplane pilots and such, I (personally) would lean towards banning any such requirements. Then there is also the secondary issue of data security and confidentiality (what other values - besides my degree of sobriety - are being measured, stored, and/or distributed, and for how long?).

I suspect that I would fail a standard test for opiates in the blood, since I eat a whopping slice of Schmandkuchen mit Mohn every day. I guess the solution would be to illegalize those, too.

Regards,

16 posted on 01/21/2014 11:05:07 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Nachum

Dear leader may be one of the first to learn the cost of his youthful indiscretions but drugged up dope head zombies usually don’t notice the value of their hard earned money being eroded to nothing since they usually just watch it go up in smoke anyway and they won’t put up much of a fight as they are marched off to gulags or ovens. It’s just the way tyrants like their subjects.


17 posted on 01/21/2014 11:08:13 AM PST by infool7 (The ugly truth is just a big lie.)
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To: Cementjungle
About alcohol abusers. Back when my mom was in a nursing home in the 1990s, an idiot running the social programs thaought it would be nice to give the inmates alcohol-free champagne for New Years Eve. The former alcoholics among the incarerated got drunk on the placebo effect. I couldn't believe the stupidity of it. Someone on that staff should've known that a high percentage of those who end up in nursing homes had a history with alcohol.

It's the same with former stoners. If the air reeks of weed, they can get stoned.

18 posted on 01/21/2014 11:10:27 AM PST by grania
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To: 444Flyer

““...A number of studies have shown an association between chronic marijuana use and mental illness. High doses of marijuana can produce a temporary psychotic reaction (involving hallucinations and paranoia) in some users, and using marijuana can worsen the course of illness in patients with schizophrenia. A series of large prospective studies also showed a link between marijuana use and later development of psychosis....”

Virtually every study has shown that chronic alcohol use is associated with many severe health effects, several of which can lead to death. Brain damage has been documented in alcoholics. Heavy alcohol use also raises the risk of dementia. Alcohol abuse is also often associated with violent and criminal behavior. Alcohol is a poisonous substance, and an overdose may be immediately fatal.

Virtually every study has shown that chronic tobacco use is associated with severe health effects, several of which can lead to death. It is also extremely physically addictive. It often severely impacts the quality of life of long-term users.

Marijuana, on the other hand, is non-toxic. It is not physically addictive. Its use is not generally associated with violent or antisocial behavior. Researchers have been surprised to find that smoking it, even in large amounts, does not increase the incidence of lung cancer.

I’m the last one to defend 0 in most circumstances - but even he is occasionally correct about something.


19 posted on 01/21/2014 11:13:33 AM PST by PreciousLiberty
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To: PreciousLiberty

Until you have seen someone you love go thru one of these pot induced “psychotic episodes” you are welcome to hold your delusional opinion at your own peril but you are a fool worse than I to share it with others.


20 posted on 01/21/2014 11:24:53 AM PST by infool7 (The ugly truth is just a big lie.)
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To: Nachum
Here's a copy of a letter I sent this morning to our local paper, in response to an OpEd asking for people's opinions on medical marijuana.

This is in response to your OpEd in the January 21 DAYTON DAILY NEWS.

My views on marijuana, of many years standing, have not changed. It's nasty stuff and I wouldn't touch it with even the 11-foot pole I keep around for things I wouldn't touch with a 10-foot pole. The idea that it's no worse than alcohol is ridiculous. Twenty-four hours after I take a drink, there are no traces of alcohol left in my body. Maybe some residual damage to brain and liver cells, but no alcohol. A week after someone takes a toke, there are still traces of pot in their body, and there is considerable residual damage to the brain, liver, and other organs.

Having said that, I also say that there is no Constitutional authority whatsoever for the Federal government to have anything to say about growing, possession, or sale of marijuana. When it came to Prohibition, at least the Drys were honest enough to recognize that a Constitutional Amendment was required. The pot prohibitionists are completely dishonest in that regard.

Any authority whatsoever over marijuana resides with the States, under the Tenth Amendment. Individual states are free to experiment with whatever rules they choose, from complete bans to complete legalization. Whether marijuana has any medicinal properties is a scientific and medical question, not a legal one. If it does, let's find out and make it available in the form of pills,injections, or patches, instead of forcing people to flood their lungs with combustion products in the hope of getting some benefit from whatever amounts of "active ingredient" survive the combustion.

It's time for some rationality on this issue instead of "reefer madness."

21 posted on 01/21/2014 11:28:24 AM PST by JoeFromSidney (itYe)
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To: infool7

So which section of the Constitution do you think authorizes fedgov to impose national marijuana prohibition?


22 posted on 01/21/2014 11:36:15 AM PST by Ken H (What happens on the internet, stays on the internet.)
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To: JoeFromSidney

Joe,

I hear what you are saying, and it sounds about right.-

We lost a dear friend of ours just a few weeks ago to cancer. She suffered horribly, but sometimes the only thing that gave her any relief from the relentless nausea of her chemo drugs was pot. Her family was thankful they could give it to her.

I also know another person suffers debilitating migraines. The meds are very expensive. Once in a great while, she will use pot to push off the beginning of an episode. It works for her. Another person I know has a horrible case of Crohns’ desease (I think I mangled the spelling). Sometimes pot is one of the things that helps him.

I have NO issue with legalizing pot. None. Yes, it is crap for healthy people true, but in trying to save us all from the reefer madness, those that really need it sometimes cannot get it.


23 posted on 01/21/2014 11:51:58 AM PST by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: avenir
“Come Hell or high water they WILL get their pot! And it ain’t cheap.”

Pot is far cheaper than alcohol for an evening of partying. Even when illegal.

You can also carry enough pot and papers in your pocket to get 50-100 people stoned for an evening. You'd need a small truck full of booze for that.

There is also far less of a hangover and it will never make you feel sick like alcohol. Most people would prefer pot if not for the legal issues.

The alcohol companies (and Feds taxing them) are terrified about legalization. Imagine if millions of people simply grew a plant and never paid a dime for alcohol again. This is a huge incentive to maintain SWAT raids on potted plants and make desk clerks pee in jars.

24 posted on 01/21/2014 11:54:42 AM PST by varyouga
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To: 444Flyer
High doses of marijuana can produce a temporary psychotic reaction (involving hallucinations and paranoia) in some users, and using marijuana can worsen the course of illness in patients with schizophrenia.

He's getting to be as delusional as Joe Biden. Biden dispenses firearm advice, now Obama is dispensing medical advice? Where are his credentials?

25 posted on 01/21/2014 11:57:05 AM PST by Real Cynic No More (Border Fence Obamacare!)
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To: Nachum
And as reported by the government’s National Institute on Drug Abuse, adolescent use of marijuana does something that alcohol does not; it causes permanent brain damage, including lowering of I.Q.

This certainly explains a lot about Mr. President.

26 posted on 01/21/2014 11:58:46 AM PST by Real Cynic No More (Border Fence Obamacare!)
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To: alexander_busek; McGruff

Drug testing is a joke because the ONLY drug you can detect in someone who isn’t a moron is pot.

Everything else is gone in 1-2 days max and flushes out faster with water.

If you’re smart enough to get the job, you’re smart enough to beat the test for anything but pot.

I’ve known Rx, heroin and crack addicts who easily passed drug tests. But someone who smokes 1 joint per weekend will be picked up.

IMO it is a scam to keep average people drinking alcohol and paying taxes for their intoxication. Plenty of people I know would rather smoke but drink instead due to tests.

There is no reason for forcing people to pee in cups unless their immediate physical performance is depended on for people’s lives. Pilots yes, 711 clerks no.


27 posted on 01/21/2014 12:07:11 PM PST by varyouga
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To: onedoug
You were right. The research is becoming rather compelling that marijuana during the teenage years has potentially severe effects on development of cognitive functioning.
28 posted on 01/21/2014 12:17:16 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: onedoug
... to wait until they were retired.

That's what I did, for many reasons.

FMCDH(BITS)

29 posted on 01/21/2014 12:17:58 PM PST by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: kaehurowing
Soros' involvement in the world drug trade goes back many years. He was actually on "60 Minutes" one time years ago and got pretty pissy when questioned about it.
30 posted on 01/21/2014 12:19:31 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: PreciousLiberty
“...Marijuana, on the other hand, is non-toxic. It is not physically addictive. Its use is not generally associated with violent or antisocial behavior. Researchers have been surprised to find that smoking it, even in large amounts, does not increase the incidence of lung cancer...”

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“...Its use is not generally associated with violent or antisocial behavior...”

Well, impaired judgment has many consequences, the list of which is potentially limitless in discussion. And no sane or sober person enjoys dealing with a Pothead's brain numbed idiocy. So it depends on how you view ‘antisocial behavior’. I consider a stoner a very antisocial person. They hide behind the personality the drug gives them and are numbing up to avoid reality and sobriety. Seems pretty antisocial IMO.

As for the other potential effects of the drug:

“Risks of Marijuana Use

The risks of smoking marijuana go up with heavy use. Although the link has never been proven, many experts believe heavy pot smokers are at increased risk for lung cancer.

Heavy marijuana use lowers men's testosterone levels and sperm count and quality. Pot could decrease libido and fertility in some heavy-smoking men.

Contrary to what many pot smokers may tell you, marijuana is addictive, at least psychologically. Even among occasional users, one in 12 can feel withdrawal symptoms if they can't get high when they want to. Among heavy pot smokers, the rates of dependence are higher.

Many experts also believe that marijuana is physically addictive. Symptoms of withdrawal from pot might include:
Aggression
Anxiety
Depressed mood
Decreased appetite”

http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/marijuana-use-and-its-effects

And this:

“Lungs

Smoking marijuana has a direct impact on lung function. The NIDA reports that marijuana smoke contains up to 70 percent more carcinogenic hydrocarbons, which are toxic chemicals, than regular tobacco smoke. The repeated introduction of marijuana smoke to the lungs increases the risk of developing respiratory problems such as bronchitis, cancer of the respiratory tract and chronic lung infections. The Berkman Center for Internet and Society at Harvard further implicates marijuana smoking in diminished immune system functioning, making the body more susceptible to fungi, bacteria and tumor cell development in the lungs...”

Heart

After smoking marijuana, the heart rate increases by up to 100 percent, which can last for three hours. The NIDA explains that due to the increased heart rate, the likelihood of a heart attack within the first hour after use is four times higher than no use at all. Additionally, people with existing cardiac problems are vulnerable to the risk of abnormal heart rhythm and palpitations after smoking marijuana. Other research from the NIDA suggests that cardiac problems are likely in marijuana smokers because the drug itself raises blood pressure rapidly while also reducing the oxygen carried to and from the heart in the blood.”

http://www.livestrong.com/article/161333-health-effects-from-marijuana/

31 posted on 01/21/2014 12:30:59 PM PST by 444Flyer (How long O LORD?)
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To: Ken H
So which section of the Constitution do you think authorizes fedgov to impose national marijuana prohibition?

So what makes you think I think the Constitution of the United States authorizes the fedgov to impose national marijuana prohibition?

32 posted on 01/21/2014 12:55:46 PM PST by infool7 (The ugly truth is just a big lie.)
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To: infool7

If you’re willing to support the 10th Amendment - even though you may despise pot and want it kept illegal at the state level- then my hat is off to you, sir.


33 posted on 01/21/2014 1:07:20 PM PST by Ken H (What happens on the internet, stays on the internet.)
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To: kaehurowing
As I understand it, obozo travels with his boyfriend Reggie Love and another guy who supplies obozo with drugs. obozo is also a coke user from what I've read. Does obozo’s behavior reflect coke use as far as anyone can tell?
34 posted on 01/21/2014 11:18:14 PM PST by itssme
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To: NormsRevenge

You get enough people on it and they don’t give a crap what is happening in the world much less in the USA.

I watched my stoned out of their gourds sis and her husband use it for a decade. It came before their kids, rent, utilities.

Just as cigs do with my eldest. No commonsense. Why are you spending $300 a month on them when all you have is a PT job no ins, that will just barely pay rent and utilities? And you have a wife with breast cancer and a 12 year old who are on Medicaid. But you don’t qualify for it to treat your type 2 Diabetes, and can’t get a better job until her Chemo is finished, because she will lose her treatment if you get a better job. And you a US Male with type 2 Diabetes don’t qualify for Medicaid. Your Script has run out, no money for the ENDO and testing, much less test strips.


35 posted on 01/22/2014 7:43:15 AM PST by GailA (THOSE WHO DON'T KEEP PROMISES TO THE MILITARY, WON'T KEEP THEM TO U!)
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To: Nachum

Agree completely. Marijuana is a medicine, but it isn’t regulated like a medicine, and THAT’s the problem.

If it were prescribed and used like a medicine, I’m not sure we’d be having referendums.

It’s incredibly effective in treating the conditions for which it is indicated in other countries, and it is CHEAP to boot.

Funny how you couldn’t buy Zyrtec over the counter until a few years ago, but suddenly here in the People’s Soviet of Washington you can buy and use marijuana like you can coffee filters.

We need to learn where to draw the line between too much government and not enough government.


36 posted on 01/22/2014 7:52:27 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: GailA

So did you turn your sis and her husband in to the authorities for their criminal behavior? If not, why not?


37 posted on 01/22/2014 2:31:58 PM PST by Ken H (What happens on the internet, stays on the internet.)
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To: RinaseaofDs
Funny how you couldn’t buy Zyrtec over the counter until a few years ago,

That would be fedgov rules.

but suddenly here in the People’s Soviet of Washington you can buy and use marijuana like you can coffee filters.

That's WA's prerogative under the Tenth Amendment. Agreed?

We need to learn where to draw the line between too much government and not enough government.

The Founders created just such a roadmap back in 1787.

38 posted on 01/22/2014 3:18:09 PM PST by Ken H (What happens on the internet, stays on the internet.)
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