Skip to comments.Study Finds People with Guns More At-Risk for Suicide and Homicide
Posted on 01/21/2014 10:46:44 AM PST by lowbridge
Now, a new meta-analysis of gun researchthe first systematic review of its kindfrom the University of California, San Francisco, published in Annals of Internal Medicine today, has seemingly put an end to the debate over safety, at least in terms of suicide and homicide. Pooling results from 15 investigations, researchers found that a person with access to a gun is unequivocally less safe in terms of intentional death. Those with the ability to get to a gun are three times as likely to commit suicide and twice as likely to be the victim of a homicide than people without access.
Previous studies that include population level estimates have pegged the risks as even higher.
Guns are the most popular and effective method of killingboth of oneself and of others. Around 31,000die by the gun annually and gun deaths make up over half of all completed suicides and over two-thirds of all homicides.
The study found that access to guns had a different effect on men and women. Men were nearly four times more likely to commit suicide than when firearms were not accessible, while women were almost three times more likely to be victims of homicide. And while men make up over three quarters of suicides and homicides overall, women with firearm access are more than twice as likely to be a victim of homicide than a man with gun access, mainly because of the increased threat of domestic violence.
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How much did THIS study cost ?
I quit reading at University of California, San Francisco
Figures don’t lie but liars sure figure.
“...twice as likely to be the victim of a homicide...”
Yeah, but before they were like 100x more likely; that’s why they bought the gun
"Even those who muster these findings in support of gun limits acknowledge they fail to draw a causal link between gun ownership and victimization.
The 14 studies considered by the UC San Francisco team were observational studies, and they could not make a causal link either."
“Pooling results from 15 investigations”
I am a data analyst, 15 investigations is a very small data pool. Sounds like they stopped when they got the results they wanted to see. Thats an old data trick...........................nice try though!
Explain the Japanese suicide and homicide rates in a complete gun control environment, lefties.
Gun owners are also a thousand times more likely to commit tyrant-a-cide.
“the first systematic review of its kindfrom the University of California, San Francisco, “
stopped right there.
Meanwhile, researchers have found that people with ladders are at an increased risk of falls. In a separate study, it was determined that cuts are more common among households with knives . . .
Elaboration on the obvious . . .
You beat me to it
Do I need to read any further than that?
If this study was done by the left, and who else would do it, you can do away with the suicide part altogether. Why are they even concerned with it when they want to kill old people and babies and backed Cavorkian’s quest. I would think that if anyone wanted to commit suicide the left would GIVE them a gun for free.
I guess a good trade off then is to give up our protection against a totalitarian government that would control our country for generations, to save the lives of people that number in the hundreds.
On the other hand, people in New York who have thwarted the law and have acquired access to guns probably are more likely to both perpetrate crime as well as be a victim.
And the article leads with "has seemingly put an end to the debate over safety".
No more debate, folks! We have a study based on 15 data points!
Global Warming techniques applied to guns.
People are willing to accept risks which they assume and control. A person could go skydiving on Sunday and complain all day long that his employer is exposing him to cleaning solvents on Monday.
So, I am willing to accept the risk that I create for myself by choosing to have a gun. Managing and minimizing that risk is something I enjoy as a responsible adult. But I am not willing to accept the risk that comes from being unarmed and at the mercy of those who might wish to do me harm.
At least this article makes it somewhat clear that the deaths from suicide by one’s own gun dwarf the deaths from homicide by one’s own gun. That comes down to how one feels about the individual’s right to end it all.
(Most Libs would outlaw suicide because it is illegal to destroy government property...)
In related news, men who are married are far more likely to be stabbed by their spouse than those who remain single.
These bogus studies make me want to shoot myself! No... Wait.....
"without access" means ZERO ACCESS
"without: - out of the limits of; beyond" Webster`s Dict.
stupoid illogical statement:
"Those with the ability to get to a gun are three times as likely to commit suicide and twice as likely to be the victim of a homicide than people without access"
access ="a way of getting near, at, or to something or someone. : a way of being able to use or get something." : Webster
if the guy has no way to get a gun, it is physically impossible for him to shoot himself or anyone else.
Since this guy`s reasoning is illogical and mathematically impossible I will correct his stupoid statement:
"Those with the ability to get to a gun are infinitely as likely to commit suicide and infinitesimally as likely to be the victim of a homicide than people without access" because "without access" means a person having no gun in his hand cannot pull the trigger, you idiot.
ZERO CHANCE = if"NO ACCESS" = ZERO ACCESS =WITHOUT ACCESS
This guy is a liar and moron at the same time- incredible!
more bs commie progaganda. Liars do figure.
Suicide, on the other hand, is one of the world's highest.
Blacks Suffer Disproportionate Share of Firearm Homicide Deaths
Oh okay, I will add my own spin. At least gun owners who desire to off themselves take personal responsibility by offing themselves with their own weapons.
I mean, they didn’t go jump off a bridge they didn’t build or anything like that. LOL
Every single person who eats ice cream will die.
Simple statistics test: how many firearms murder victims are armed with a firearm at the time they are murdered?
Also, how many suicide attempts are there among people without firearms access? With a firearm an attempt is very likely to be successful, while attempts with, say, pills are not as successful.
WOULD BANNING FIREARMS REDUCE MURDER AND SUICIDE?, Harvard Journal of Law and Public Policy, Volume 30, Number 2, Spring 2007 (pp. 649-694)
ANY study of violence that excludes the Race and/or Ethnicity of the perpetrators and victims is utterly worthless.
When they vote away my guns, I still have a vote: 30 of them per magazine.
Self-defense in your home against criminals is called “justifiable homicide” and isn’t a crime.
I’m sure they’re including all ‘homicides’ in their data, given their agenda.
Well then, this study settles it, gun ownership is good for everyone. Gun owners obviously want to keep their guns. And lefties should wan gun owners to keep them especially because the risk for suicide is greater for gun owners. Cuomo basically said that gun owners have no place in NY, so I’m sure he would be happy with suicide for gun owners.
They deal in feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelings, only. Your facts are not welcome here.
And a car? Hose from the tail pipe into the cab and lights out. The sub-text here is ‘’guns are bad’’.
Study shows that people without guns are more likely to be k1lled by their government.
And people with insulin in the home are more likely to be diabetic.
Pooled results of 15 investigations. Big whoop.
This includes Obama's sons who get their firearms on the black market.
If Obama's sons were excluded from the crime statistics the USA would be one of the safest and least violent countries in the world.
2) Homicide by firearm usually occurs when the victim loses a gunfight.
So let it be written, so let it be done.
Note that the suicice rate among police officers is incredibly high - much higher than the population at large. And the majorijy of police officers own handguns as a job requirement. I wond if this could skewer these statistics.
Did it ever occur to the educated idiots that they may have put the cart before the horse? Those at greater risk of intentional death arm themselves in an attempt to forestall that fate.
That’s becasue without a gun you cannot commit homicide easily.
One could go 70 years without a gun, and suddenly find out you have Terminal Cancer. Then you go buy a gun.... and months later you commit Suicide.
the Chicago gun free zone should have the crime statistics of Mayberry.......but it doesn’t
So these researchers didn’t do any research.
Pooling previous 15 studies (! some may not be scientific studies at all) and a summary does not count as a study.
They forgot Bambi..
I say that's a valid sample, especially with 10 of those "investigations" coming from Sarah Brady's group.
I'm guessing on the later, because I can't find the raw data.
Headline: Gang members more likely to be involved in shootings.
TX 2012 murder rate 4.4/100k.
NY 2012 rate 3.5/100k.
I don’t have numbers for gun murders in these states as compared to total murders. But it seems likely that TX, with many more guns, has at least as many gun murders as NY.