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The CA microstamping law is having its intended effect
The San Fernando Valley NRA Members' Council ^ | Jan 22, 2014 | Steve

Posted on 01/22/2014 12:42:53 AM PST by Redcloak

Tony Canales reported from the SHOT show last week that Ruger will be allowing its handguns to fall off of the California "not unsafe" firearms roster.

Now we learn that Ruger isn't alone. Smith & Wesson will be allowing its M&P handguns to fall off of the roster as well.

(Excerpt) Read more at sanfernandovalleynra.org ...


TOPICS: Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: banglist; microstamping; ruger; smithwesson
Remember back when we said that the "not unsafe" gun list was a plot to stop new handgun sales in California? Remember how they said we were crazy to think that? Remember how some people said we should just go along to get along?

Don't you just hate being right about these things?

1 posted on 01/22/2014 12:42:53 AM PST by Redcloak
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To: Redcloak
I never heard of "not unsafe" before and I can't belive how that word is plagueing my mind trying to determine if it a safe list or a not safe list.

devious bastards those that think these things up.

2 posted on 01/22/2014 12:51:49 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: knarf

The anti-gun wingnuts in Sacramento originally called it a “safe” list. But then they realized that sounded too much like the State would be endorsing the guns on the list, so they walked it back to “not unsafe”.


3 posted on 01/22/2014 12:58:48 AM PST by Redcloak (Winter is coming.)
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To: Redcloak

That’s what I thought, but it’s late, I’m tired and my brain just couldn’t “get it”


4 posted on 01/22/2014 1:04:17 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: Redcloak

“Not unsafe”

That must be one of those double negatives my English teachers warned me about, now also known as doublespeak.


5 posted on 01/22/2014 1:24:14 AM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: Fresh Wind

It’s doubleplus good newspeak,


6 posted on 01/22/2014 1:30:56 AM PST by Redcloak (Winter is coming.)
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To: Redcloak

But will they still be able to sell to cops/agencies? Or are they also out of that business with this monkey business?


7 posted on 01/22/2014 1:34:23 AM PST by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: Fresh Wind
"That must be one of those double negatives my English teachers warned me about, now also known as doublespeak."

They must have stolen that from Maryland.

If and when one passes the background check for a handgun, the paperwork comes back "Not Disapproved".

8 posted on 01/22/2014 3:25:40 AM PST by SnuffaBolshevik
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To: Redcloak
The firearms industry needs to stop selling to and supporting state agencies in California.

No guns, no parts, no training, no ammunition.

9 posted on 01/22/2014 3:38:11 AM PST by johncatl (...governs least, governs best.)
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To: knarf
devious bastards those that think these things up.

In the battle between good and evil, only our side is constrained by integrity. If we give that up, we automatically lose. If we stick with it, we may be overpowered.

10 posted on 01/22/2014 4:18:39 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: johncatl
The firearms industry needs to stop selling to and supporting state agencies in California.

Exactly. Let them 'go Bobbie', nightsticks.

11 posted on 01/22/2014 4:46:57 AM PST by Vinnie
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To: ApplegateRanch

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12 posted on 01/22/2014 5:20:09 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: johncatl
The firearms industry needs to stop selling to and supporting state agencies in California.

No guns, no parts, no training, no ammunition.

The problem is that bids for supplying state agency contracts often come from 3rd party companies which are not primarily identified as firearm wholesalers, but as "public safety supply" sources. These vendors sell everything from guns and ammo to uniforms and shoes.

I agree that manufacturers who deal directly with law-enforcement agencies should cut off California, but these alternate sources make it very tough to shut that state out completely. Now, warranty service... that might be easier to limit. The rest of the industry should follow Barrett's example there.

13 posted on 01/22/2014 5:22:17 AM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Redcloak
Remember back to 1982 and Prop 15, a bill before the VOTERS to ban the sale of handguns in California?

It was guaranteed to pass! The Brady bunch were popping the champagne corks! CBS even put on a special anti-handgun show the night before to sway the voters!

The bill failed 2-1. The politicians were stunned! It was supposed to pass!

The VOTERS had spoken! NO handgun bans in California.

So the politicians started finding little ways to deny the right to own guns by passing nitpicking laws on “safety”, what they can be made of, number of cartridges, lead bans. high dollar cost to get ammo.

Now it it micro stamping. Everything is designed to bypass Prop 15. You can defeat micro-stamping with a piece of very fine emery cloth or valve lapping compound.
But notice, the VOTERS have never been let near a ballot to decide such an issue since.

14 posted on 01/22/2014 7:44:48 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: ApplegateRanch
But will they still be able to sell to cops/agencies? Or are they also out of that business with this monkey business?

In theory, local agencies can buy not "not unsafe" handguns. However, I wonder how many city attorneys want to risk liability from an officer involved shooting with a gun the State calls unsafe.

15 posted on 01/22/2014 10:31:26 AM PST by Redcloak (Winter is coming.)
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To: johncatl

I’d love to see some more manufacturers pull a Ronnie Barrett.


16 posted on 01/22/2014 10:34:03 AM PST by Redcloak (Winter is coming.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

I am a firm believer in states rights. If Californians don’t want handguns in their state they should have the right to ban them. If a majority of people want handguns then they should live in the 45 or so states that support individual ownership.


17 posted on 01/22/2014 11:56:34 AM PST by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: B4Ranch

The voters TURNED DOWN A GUN BAN (Prop 15)! The politicians have been working overtime trying to circumvent the will of the people.


18 posted on 01/22/2014 1:14:14 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

The voters keep electing the same people who want to pass the gun ban, so tell me what it is they want. Do they even know what they want? Is welfare more important to them than freedom? Evidently so.


19 posted on 01/22/2014 1:27:20 PM PST by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
The same people who have been scheming since 1982 to circumvent the Prop. 15 results have been scheming since 1978 to undermine Prop. 13. It's been over 35 years since it passed and to this day they will not admit that it's the law of the land. To this day they have not adjusted government budgets to match Prop. 13 revenues. They continue to party like it's 1977.

Those who think that we can compromise with these people are simply delusional. They don't compromise. No group of people who've been willing to work for decades to overrule the will of the People are going to compromise; not one bit.

20 posted on 01/22/2014 7:26:12 PM PST by Redcloak (Winter is coming.)
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