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Readers weigh in on Cuomo's "extreme conservatives" comments (Your letters)
The Syracuse Post-Standard ^ | January 21, 2014 | Various

Posted on 01/22/2014 1:43:57 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Cuomo's beliefs have no place in future of state

To the Editor;

This is an open letter to Gov. Andrew Cuomo:

After hearing about your recent comments concerning who is not welcome in New York, I decided to check to see if you really said it. After hearing the actual audio of the interview, it took my breath away. Your arrogance and ignorance of your own family history are amazing.

Fortunately for you and your ancestors, my ancestors did not share your bigoted views of who "belongs" in New York. People have come here for many reasons, many of whom have held in high regard the values you claim don't belong.

Your attitude and stated beliefs, along with others who hold them, have no place in the future of this state or the United States. One positive thing you have done, along with Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey, is to shed light on what kind of president you might be. Maybe you two can get together and restrict the freedom of your citizens even better than you currently are. Neither of you will be getting my vote for president should you choose to run.

Brad Putnam Baldwinsville

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A Catholic's perspective To the Editor;

It's rare that a Democrat is as honest as our governor recently was. His statement about who is welcome to live in New York, and, more importantly, who is not, was refreshing. In a nutshell, he basically said serious Catholics have no place in New York. Along with most Evangelicals, many strict Jews and all Muslims.

Since I'm Catholic, I'll address it from that point of view.

He stated that those unwelcome "extreme" conservatives are people who believe in traditional marriage (Catholic doctrine), do not believe in abortion (Catholic doctrine), and that pesky second amendment (not directly Catholic doctrine, but doctrine completely teaches in the right of self defense, up to, and including, lethal force). Catholic doctrine also allows for the death penalty when properly applied by competent civil authorities.

So if one actually knows what the Catholic Church teaches, and agrees with those teachings, that person is now an extremist.

The real problem here is not our governor and his views. He can think whatever he wants -- at least he is honest about what he thinks. The real problem would be him taking communion at a Catholic Mass, as material support of abortion carries with it self-excommunication. Ask any priest: it is right there in the catechism. People like Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden and our governor are expected to know enough about their faith to keep themselves away from communion. Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius was correctly denied communion back in her home state of Kansas.

If our Bishops spent a little less time on social issues that are prudential judgments (immigration, nuclear arms, etc.), and little more time on firm doctrines, perhaps people like our governor could add to their honesty a statement like "I guess I'm not really Catholic after all."

Bryan A. Roberts Baldwinsville

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Resident of 71 years now feels unwelcome To the Editor;

An open letter to Gov. Cuomo:

I've lived in the state of New York for 71 years -- several more than you. And now you tell me I have no place in the New York. You have the gall to say because I'm an "extreme conservative" (according to your definition: one who values life whether or not yet born, the Second Amendment of the Constitution of the United States so I can defend myself and family, and who is not ready to give my sign of approval to gay marriage) that I have no place in New York.

After working diligently for 45 years to provide for a growing family, to save for my retirement years and to contribute to the state through taxes that have traditionally been at the highest level in the U.S., you now say I have no place in New York.

I guess it's too bad that I have ideas and values that differ from yours since now I find, at least according to you, they make me an unwelcome resident of the state.

Now I wonder: Is New York actually to become a progressive oasis that has no place for citizens who have ideas and values that differ from the governor? What ever happened to the progressive mantra, "Our strength is in our diversity"? Surely you don't favor diversity. Apparently it's "your way or the highway." A highway that I hope to soon use to emigrate to a state of freedom--a state where differing ideas and values are listened to and considered if not necessarily adopted. A state where everyone feels welcome no matter if he has ideas that differ from those of its governor.

What shame you bring upon the state of New York.

Larry Barnett Baldwinsville

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Governor's comments go against new businesses campaign To the Editor;

Notice to business executives considering a move to New York: Don't you dare come, says Andrew Cuomo, unless you support unlimited abortion, own no guns, adore homosexuals and love to live with the highest taxes in the U.S. Oh, and you better hate conservatives.

Cuomo's "Godfather" persona burst out loud and clear in a tirade on "The Capitol Pressroom" when he said people with such leanings "have no place in the state of New York, because that's not who New Yorkers are."

Conservative Fox talk show figure Sean Hannity accepted Cuomo's invitation to leave, saying he's putting his high-tax, Long Island mansion up for sale and heading for the low-tax prairies of Texas or the taxless glades of Florida.

Cuomo's Leninist lather is probably understandable if you consider the unbearable frustration of a relatively young man with voracious presidential ambitions who is not even being mentioned for the presidency in 2016.

Also, he knows that the Democrats who will pick the next nominee will be the far-left crazies who dominate primary voting and bring with them far, far left positions. "Abortion-after-birth" laws may be only thing that satisfies this crucial group, so maybe even Cuomo's extremist pro-abortion views may not go far enough.

But if consistency is a virtue, it certainly doesn't get much use from Cuomo. He cast out all conservatives and anti-abortion or pro-gun citizens from the borders of New York even while we are besieged by a TV ad campaign literally begging entrepreneurs to bring their business here.

King Andrew's ads promise to forgive business people their taxes, but obviously not, we now learn, their conservative sins.

John Omicinski Syracuse


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: abortion; andrewcuomo; banglist; billdeblasio; chirlanemccray; cuomo; newyork; newyorkcity
Ouch!
1 posted on 01/22/2014 1:43:58 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thanks for posting this!

These letters are great. I loved this phrase “adore homosexuals”, lol that’s very good.

What a schmuck, he really put his foot in his mouth, didn’t he?

Thanks for keeping up on the wee hours posting 2ndDiv, I can always count on you when I’m burning the post-midnight oil!


2 posted on 01/22/2014 2:00:02 AM PST by jocon307
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Cuomo has really f-cked himself. His political career has no future now. Even a lot of liberals have got to be offended by his intolerance and arrogance. Couldn’t happen to a nicer dirtbag.


3 posted on 01/22/2014 2:06:59 AM PST by KAESNO2
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To: KAESNO2
In a perfect world, you would be correct. Unfortunately, half the people of New York state probably agree with the governor. Obama said a lot of things before his first election, through four years of his first administration and he was still re-elected. Here's a few of the top of my head:

"...fifty seven states..."
"...my muslim faith..."
"...typical white person..."
"...you didn't build that..."

This is nothing to half the people and will soon be forgotten.

4 posted on 01/22/2014 2:21:38 AM PST by Former Proud Canadian (Cruz/Palin 2016)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Sure, Cuomo can be governor of the NY dirtbags as long as he wants. But nationwide office? I don’t think it’s gonna happen.


5 posted on 01/22/2014 2:47:52 AM PST by KAESNO2
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 DUMP CUOMO 

No, this has nothing to do with the East River — it's the signature NY bumper sticker of disapproval.

6 posted on 01/22/2014 2:57:36 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Gene Eric

>> the NY dirtbags

Bite me.


7 posted on 01/22/2014 3:01:42 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Cuomo’s a liberal elite - born on third base - thinks he hit a triple...


8 posted on 01/22/2014 3:47:36 AM PST by GOPJ ("Remember who the real enemy is... ")
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To: jocon307
What a schmuck, he really put his foot in his mouth, didn’t he?

You might think so, but the majoprity of New Yorkers agree with him. NY politicians aren't among the most liberal in the nation by accident. Their constituents vote for them BECASE of their statist views.

9 posted on 01/22/2014 3:48:19 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Sure about that?


10 posted on 01/22/2014 3:49:40 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Gene Eric

Around here, one would say, “The Cuomo family thinks their s*** doesn’t stink”.


11 posted on 01/22/2014 4:46:55 AM PST by healy61
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To: KAESNO2

No, this makes him a strong contender for 2016. Or for 2024.


12 posted on 01/22/2014 4:48:14 AM PST by 22202NOVA ("Democracy is the art of running the circus from the monkey cage." -- H.L. Mencken)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

People need to move out in droves and let the city rot like detroit.


13 posted on 01/22/2014 4:52:26 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

With Cuomo encouraging people to go Galt on NY, then I’d go Galt on NY.

In any case, there’s something hilarious about a place that runs ads telling people they won’t get taxed for 10 years if they move their business to NY.

What that says to anyone with a brain is “This place has ENORMOUS Taxes.”

It’s why Shin Soo Choo chose Texas over NY. Why LeBron James chose Florida over NY. They instantly saved 10-20 million bucks...an entire season’s pay. And that’s not counting their endorsements and businesses.


14 posted on 01/22/2014 4:57:07 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: KAESNO2

Even liberals disagree with what he said? I’d like to think so.


15 posted on 01/22/2014 5:12:18 AM PST by jughandle
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
My newest short description of liberal lunacy......

It is uncivilized to apply the death penalty to a convicted murderer no matter how brutally they butchered their victim yet it's a sacred right of women to suck an innocent baby from their womb and run it through a garbage disposal.

16 posted on 01/22/2014 5:13:44 AM PST by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: Biggirl

The only thing I am sure of is that Obama was elected and re-elected. Nothing good has come of those elections.


17 posted on 01/22/2014 5:17:58 AM PST by Former Proud Canadian (Cruz/Palin 2016)
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To: GOPJ

Also, as I understand it, fourth generation of a family which has never put a man into the uniform of his country.


18 posted on 01/22/2014 5:22:02 AM PST by MSF BU (n)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Got to remember that also Obama was elected and re-elected by massive, massive voter fraud.


19 posted on 01/22/2014 5:29:05 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Biggirl
Got to remember that also Obama was elected and re-elected by massive, massive voter fraud

Yeah, and having the absolutely worst candidates at the top of the ticket for two consecutive presidential elections had nothing to do with that.

20 posted on 01/22/2014 5:40:37 AM PST by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: Biggirl
I'm shocked, shocked to hear about the voter fraud.

I'm not sure what you are getting at. Obama was elected twice by a majority of the voters. Are you saying his margin of victory was due entirely to voter fraud? If this is your contention, my answer is that a majority have allowed it to happen and, seemingly, don't have a problem with it.

I have been a keen observer of US politics for over 50 years. As a foreigner, I still don't understand it. I live in a putative democratic country and the process just does not leave a lot of room for fraud. Federal elections are by paper ballot, there are no machines. You go to the poll, present your ID and your name is crossed off the voter list to denote that you have voted. You make an "x" next to the name of the candidate you want to vote for. One candidate, one position, member of parliament. Scrutineers from the various parties are present and observe the process. When the polls close, they count the ballots in front of the various party reps.

Now, the US is the biggest democracy and the bigger you are, the more complicated things become. However, the US process has multiple offices to be filled and voting machines and no ID needed to vote. In many states the fraud artists (you might call them democrats) are in charge of the entire process, basically making up their own rules. This is a system that has been designed for fraud. When fraud results you should not be surprised.

21 posted on 01/22/2014 5:56:52 AM PST by Former Proud Canadian (Cruz/Palin 2016)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The downside: Coo-mo* will never read any of these responses to his ignorance. Staff will shield him from all unpleasant truths.

*Coo-mo: per Rush, since that’s the way the Rev-uh-rund Jackson pronounces it, it would be racist not to do the same!


22 posted on 01/22/2014 5:57:13 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Sadly, it was a conbination of BOTH “stupid voters” and “massive voter fraud”, for this I am VERY MUCH CORRECT.


23 posted on 01/22/2014 6:19:07 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

With these electronic machines that are now part of the voting process, it does not surprise me that the likelyhood of voter fraud has gone up.


24 posted on 01/22/2014 6:20:51 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: MSF BU

Without ‘daddy’ this guy wouldn’t be much...


25 posted on 01/22/2014 7:05:32 AM PST by GOPJ ("Remember who the real enemy is... ")
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To: GOPJ

I agree and would add that Bob Grant had it about right regarding the Cuomo family. It still amazes me though, 3/4 generations and not one family member had the stones to serve? Disgusting.


26 posted on 01/22/2014 7:26:14 AM PST by MSF BU (n)
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