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Oregon Rules Bakery Violated Gay Couple’s Civil Rights By Denying Them A Cake For Same-Sex Wedding
KATU-TV / The Associated Press ^ | January 21, 2014

Posted on 01/22/2014 2:33:09 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

An Oregon bakery stands by its decision to deny a cake for a same-sex wedding.

The owners of Sweet Cakes by Melissa tell KATU-TV that their religious beliefs have not changed after Oregon’s Bureau of Labor and Industries determined the Portland-area bakery violated the civil rights of a same-sex couple. Owner Aaron Klein says it almost seems as if the state is hostile toward Christian businesses....

(Excerpt) Read more at seattle.cbslocal.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: christians; gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; homosexualmarriage; judiciary; lavendermafia; oregon; samesexmarriage
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Isn't slavery defined as making someone do something against their will or conscience? And isn't slavery and involuntary servitude illegal, except for incarceration and the draft?
1 posted on 01/22/2014 2:33:09 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

I don’t think buying a cake from a private establishment is among the basic civil rights..


2 posted on 01/22/2014 2:41:14 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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It would have made so much more sense for the gay couple to go to another bakery, but then they couldn’t push their agenda.

I read here recently we should turn the tables on the progressives. Go to their bakery and order a cake with a gun logo, tea party rules, etc. I loved that idea!


3 posted on 01/22/2014 2:41:38 AM PST by gattaca (The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left. Ecclesiastes10:2)
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Aren’t the rights of the bakery owners being violated, freedom to practice their own religion??


4 posted on 01/22/2014 2:53:18 AM PST by siamesecats (God closes one door, and opens another, to protect us.)
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To: gattaca

The whole thing is weird. A wedding cake does not even have writing on the cake. They could have went in and ordered a cake and then find a plastic couple somewhere else to put on the top of the cake. A gay marriage cake? Aren’t cakes for weddings basically four tiers of white icing with a plastic topping? My wife and my wedding cake was basically like everyone else’s cake. The whole thing sounds ridiculous. The customers did not have to say a word about who they were marrying. Definitely agenda ridden.


5 posted on 01/22/2014 2:53:26 AM PST by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the country!)
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"I read here recently we should turn the tables on the progressives. Go to their bakery and order a cake with a gun logo, tea party rules, etc. I loved that idea!"

Great idea. but I suspect that the courts would rule that refusal to provide such images would not be covered by Oregon's non-discrimination laws. We need to take back the legislatures to stop this tide of iniquity and wage economic warfare against the leftists who are destroying the country.

6 posted on 01/22/2014 2:54:00 AM PST by Truth29
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It would have made so much more sense for the gay couple to go to another bakery, but then they couldn’t push their agenda.

Exactly. And I'll bet they went to several bakeries until they found one who refused them, just so they could sue.

7 posted on 01/22/2014 2:54:23 AM PST by NJRighty ("It's sick out there and getting sicker" - Bob Grant)
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To: siamesecats

Aren’t the rights of the bakery owners being violated, freedom to practice their own religion?
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However that same bakery can put up a sign telling me I can’t carry my licensed, concealed weapon in their establishment.

I suppose somewhere you could find a health law about no shoes/no service but not allowing one in their store with no shoes would/should be violating the rights of the customer to not wear shoes.

AND in the case of the cake, they are NOT being denied service, they are being told the owner would rather not decorate the cake as the person wanted it.

If I went in and ordered - say cookies, in the shape of a pile of dog crap, is the bakery BOUND BY LAW to make them for me?


8 posted on 01/22/2014 3:01:05 AM PST by xrmusn (6/98 --Because you have your head up your arse doesn't mean you have to have a crappy outlook.)
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Only if you and the dog are getting married.


9 posted on 01/22/2014 3:03:53 AM PST by JohnnyP
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Also discussed previously here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3113856/posts


10 posted on 01/22/2014 3:04:59 AM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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At some point, somebody’s going to sue because he wanted a Pepsi, just one Pepsi, and she wouldn’t give it to him.


11 posted on 01/22/2014 3:05:54 AM PST by RichInOC (2013-14 Tiber Swim Team)
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Only if you and the dog are getting married.
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I was thinking more of giving them to him for his birthday.


12 posted on 01/22/2014 3:11:59 AM PST by xrmusn (6/98 --Because you have your head up your arse doesn't mean you have to have a crappy outlook.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No one has a right to be served by others.


13 posted on 01/22/2014 3:32:20 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

I don’t think buying a cake from a private establishment is among the basic civil rights..

Nope, can’t find that in my copy of the Constitution. I do see something about religion and “...the free practice thereof.”

And isn’t there some line in there about free association?


14 posted on 01/22/2014 4:00:43 AM PST by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the altar of "gun free zones"?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So, if the gay couple wanted a filmographer to do a porno video, that would be a violation if it was refused?


15 posted on 01/22/2014 4:05:49 AM PST by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

New math:
civil rights = birthday cake


16 posted on 01/22/2014 4:32:19 AM PST by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: Tennessee Nana

This goes back to the civil rights era and a fundamental approach that the ends justifies the means.

There is a portion of the civil rights laws which address something called ‘public accommodation’. This means if you have a business which is open to the public, it has to treat all customers alike and cannot discriminate on the basis of (set of rules). The set of rules initially did not include whether or not someone liked to be a rump ranger, but apparently times change (so we can eventually see any all all behaviors mandated as being required to be tolerated).

Now the justification for this did make some sense at the time, as the idea that some black folks go into a small town with only one hotel, they should not be turned away and stuck without a place to sleep because the owner is racist.

However this was still a clear example of simple statutory law overriding an explicit right set forth in the constitution. Before the civil rights laws, we had freedom of association. After it, we had a number of corollaries (public accommodation is one).

Milton Friedman once said, correctly of course, that “It is no more just to force people to associate together than is to force them not to.”

Even a tool which can on it’s face seem to be on the side of the angels (though as I would say Friedman was correct, this never was), is not guaranteed to stay in the hands of those with good intentions.


17 posted on 01/22/2014 4:35:29 AM PST by drbuzzard (All animals are created equal, but some are more equal than others.)
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To: gattaca

Or maybe a Duck Dynasty camo cake?


18 posted on 01/22/2014 4:37:08 AM PST by Leo58 (Those who cheer you today will curse you tomorrow, the only thing that endures is character.)
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Awesome idea, wish I thought of that.


19 posted on 01/22/2014 4:39:10 AM PST by gattaca (The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left. Ecclesiastes10:2)
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“And isn’t slavery and involuntary servitude illegal, except for incarceration and the draft?”

It’s no coincidence that this precedent is being set. Before long doctors and other medical professionals will be compelled to accept unsustainably low fees from Medicaid and subsidized Obamacare patients based on the same legal reasoning.


20 posted on 01/22/2014 5:06:06 AM PST by Junk Silver
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