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Grenades, .50 caliber machine guns on U.S. border
WND ^ | Jan. 20,2014 | F. Michael Maloof

Posted on 01/22/2014 7:31:23 AM PST by SwinneySwitch

WASHINGTON – Mexican drug cartels are “killing each other” with .50-caliber machine guns and grenades just across the U.S. border with Mexico, sources have told WND.

The gun battles are occurring near Fort Huachuca, Ariz., which is the location of the U.S. Army Intelligence Center and school.

The Army center is 15 miles from the Mexican border, but the installation runs up against the border.

A source associated with the center said that only a “three-strand barbwire fence” is keeping any spillover of heavily armed cartel members out of the compound.

Students at the post have had only basic training and haven’t handled weapons beyond the M-16, which shoots a 5.56 mm round, roughly equivalent to a .223 caliber, which is less than half the size of the .50 caliber.

The episode is the latest flare-up in what American ranchers living along Arizona’s southern border say is a virtual war zone.

Mexican drug lords rule in the U.S. border regions and “we’re living by the law of the cartels,” one American rancher said.

The ranchers recently blasted the federal government for failing them, warning that the chaos spilling from Mexico is “putting U.S. national security at risk.”

Mark J. Dannels, sheriff of Cochise County in Arizona, said border security “should be a primary issue even before we talk about immigration reform.”

Dannels has spent 25 years in law enforcement along the border.

In a Facebook report on the latest incident, Dannels said the violence is occurring in Agua Prieta Sonora, Mexico.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Mexico; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aguaprieta; aliens; banglist; borderwars; grenades; huachuca; maduce
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To: Hulka

I have known people in the business by association as i was into playing music in my youth, ,who were busted for 140 tons and 4 tons of coke, all protected by agents.. they gave him up because he was getting out of control, gary is now dead, 20 years in rikers, got out and died the next week. Gary was a real scumbag, deserved what he got. I have no evidence...but know it is true.

It is not possible to supply the us with back packers.


21 posted on 01/22/2014 8:26:54 AM PST by aces (Jesus Saves not Society)
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To: aces

Okay, so you are taking the word of a convicted drug smuggler, sent to prison over 20-yrs ago.

Go it.

But then again, the lack of proof PROOVES how good the cover-up is.

So, wink-wink-nudge-nudge-say-no-more, your public revelation of a secret US operation where the US government daily ships tankers full of illegal drugs into the US will remain a secret. . .just between us.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLRZ0dIvwHY


22 posted on 01/22/2014 8:33:16 AM PST by Hulka
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To: nonsporting
Should I laugh or cry?

Indeed...


23 posted on 01/22/2014 8:34:35 AM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Hulka

No problem, close your eyes and rest easy.


24 posted on 01/22/2014 8:35:47 AM PST by aces (Jesus Saves not Society)
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To: GBA

The Rising of the Moon - Irish folk song about the 1798 Rebellion

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0zBlHlnR4Y


25 posted on 01/22/2014 8:37:43 AM PST by SwinneySwitch (Prayer: beyond your expectations!)
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To: aces
Uh, washington is the cartel, they are weeding out those who do not play along.

Which might have something to do with the border remaining unsecured since Eisenhower.

26 posted on 01/22/2014 8:38:20 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: aces

Will do. . .and thanks for spilling the beans about a totally secret black op, hidden for decades (and remains so), involving literally hundreds of thousands of people, from senior US officials, longshoremen, tanker crews, the Coast Guard, news media, not to mention the shipping country point of origin (we all know they can keep a secret).


27 posted on 01/22/2014 8:41:54 AM PST by Hulka
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To: Charles Martel

Nice pool table...


28 posted on 01/22/2014 8:45:35 AM PST by HiJinx (I can see Mexico from my back door.)
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To: SwinneySwitch

Smells like BS


29 posted on 01/22/2014 8:45:45 AM PST by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: SwinneySwitch; SandRat

As usual, WND is a day late and a dollar short.
The gun battle took place in Agua Prieta, across the border from Douglas, AZ and over 50 miles from Ft. Huachuca.

The Post boundary does not abut the border, even though we have illegals crossing through the Post routinely on their trek northward.

The soldiers here are trained on more than just the M-16, thank you very much.

And the Cochise County Sheriff’s Office has already taken steps to guard against a spill-over of this violence.

For those who care, check out last week’s thread on this topic. It’s in the Arizona sidebar and is on the ‘aliens’ keyword search page.


30 posted on 01/22/2014 8:49:02 AM PST by HiJinx (I can see Mexico from my back door.)
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To: Hulka

No problem my friend, believe as you will, I certainly have no proof so I can see why you feel that way and respect it. I just know what we are being fed is rediculous. Be my luck they will knock me off now, oh well heaven awaits...smile.. yea gary told me he received shipments of that size weekly to supply the east coast, ports would change between houston, phili, and new york...hope I am wrong, but doubt it.
Peace to you.


31 posted on 01/22/2014 8:49:02 AM PST by aces (Jesus Saves not Society)
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To: caver
From Monday's thread: Yup. Spoke to someone from AP today. The cartel decided the guy they put over AP needed to go and he and his boys are fighting it out with the new guy. They expect it to last about a week. Supposedly trying to keep the regular folks out of it but they have been advised to be inside by sundown.

AP is the Mexican town of Agua Prieta.

32 posted on 01/22/2014 8:51:46 AM PST by HiJinx (I can see Mexico from my back door.)
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To: HiJinx

The chineese want mexico unstable...they are movin in.


33 posted on 01/22/2014 8:58:59 AM PST by Therapsid (i)
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To: HiJinx

I agree that they are fighting but with .50 cals and grenades?


34 posted on 01/22/2014 9:06:08 AM PST by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: caver

They moved the Intelligence Command Headquarters and School from Fort Holibird partially because the Bird was not secure due to a rail road line and Colgate Creek running through the middle of the Fort. Now they only have a barbed wire fence between the Fort and the Mexican Cartels. What a major improvement!LOL


35 posted on 01/22/2014 9:20:26 AM PST by cotton
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To: caver; HiJinx
caver:" I agree that they are fighting but with .50 cals and grenades? "

The .50 cal is to "reach out and touch someone"..
the grenades are for when they come too close,
and you want to "send them the very best" (wishes?)../sarc

36 posted on 01/22/2014 9:34:43 AM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: caver

Yes, those weapons are in use. The Cartels are supplied with the very best ordnance drug money can buy.

But I think my comment earlier was to point out the error of the WND story. They said that our soldiers at Ft. Huachuca are only trained on the M-16, and that just isn’t true.


37 posted on 01/22/2014 9:37:06 AM PST by HiJinx (I can see Mexico from my back door.)
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To: cotton

U.S. Border Patrol agents work on Ft. Huachuca.
Kinda gives you an idea of the situation...


38 posted on 01/22/2014 9:43:23 AM PST by HiJinx (I can see Mexico from my back door.)
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To: SwinneySwitch
the M-16, which shoots a 5.56 mm round, roughly equivalent to a .223 caliber, which is less than half the size of the .50 caliber.

Well, maybe a .223 cal is "less then half the size", but the "comparison" ends right there...

.223cal/5.56mm - 2960 fps (14" barrel M-4, 55 grain bullet) = 1,070 ft/lbs muzzle energy

.50 cal - 3155 fps (24" barrel, 650 grain bullet) = 14,367 ft/lbs muzzle energy

The first one will make a hole in your leg, the other one will take your entire leg off.

Somehow or other, those intel folks at Ft. Huachuca (with basic training) seem a bit outgunned?

39 posted on 01/22/2014 11:19:25 AM PST by Gritty (Nobody wants to hear about American exceptionalism when the issue is American ineffectualism-MSteyn)
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To: SwinneySwitch

I am not saying at some point this might not get closer to Ft Huachuca, but now it is 50 miles away in and/or near Agua Prieta, Mexico.

As this continues, smuggling routes near Douglas that are already very bad areas will get worse with smugglers likely attacking smugglers from a different cartel. Ft Huachuca is more likely to experience some of these incidents than the main shootout that has been going on in Agua Prieta.


40 posted on 01/22/2014 11:32:07 AM PST by Tammy8
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