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Texas to execute Mexican citizen despite US concerns
BBC ^ | 22 January 2014

Posted on 01/22/2014 2:43:43 PM PST by artichokegrower

The US state of Texas plans to execute a Mexican national convicted of murder, over the objections of the US and Mexican governments.

Mexico says Wednesday's execution of Edgar Tamayo, 46, will violate international law.

The country says he was not told of his right to seek legal assistance from the Mexican consulate when he was arrested.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: criminalaliens; deathrow; edgartamayo; execution; mexico; texas
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In January 1994, Tamayo shot and killed police officer Guy Gaddis, 24, as he was being arrested for robbery. He was in the US illegally.


Adios Edgar

1 posted on 01/22/2014 2:43:43 PM PST by artichokegrower
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To: artichokegrower

Our country, our laws, live with it


2 posted on 01/22/2014 2:44:54 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: artichokegrower

If you go to Mexico as a tourist, you’re an idiot.


3 posted on 01/22/2014 2:45:10 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Jealousy is when you count someone else's blessings instead of your own.)
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To: artichokegrower

The sad thing is that the taxpayer has taken the check for this criminal for the past 20 years.


4 posted on 01/22/2014 2:45:27 PM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: artichokegrower

This game has been played before. Texas will follow through, again.

Mexican national executed in Texas
http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/07/07/texas.mexican.execution/
July 7, 2011


5 posted on 01/22/2014 2:46:04 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: artichokegrower
Let's say you're in Texas.

You break the laws of Texas in Texas.

I would say that you have to live by the rules in Texas, regardless of what a foreign nation or the federal government thinks or wishes.

6 posted on 01/22/2014 2:48:10 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: artichokegrower

As a Texan I have to say,

my only regret is that we retired ‘ol sparky.

All that quiet laying on a comfortable bed just going to sleep don’t seem like justice to me.


7 posted on 01/22/2014 2:49:12 PM PST by I cannot think of a name
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To: GeronL

Same goes to the fed, States laws - live with it.


8 posted on 01/22/2014 2:49:54 PM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: artichokegrower

Mexico needs to build a border fence to protect their people from these evil racist rednecks in Texas.

And in New Mexico, Arizona, and California

A nice tall one will keep those white devils away!


9 posted on 01/22/2014 2:49:59 PM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: I cannot think of a name

There will be plenty of pain in Hades if the killer hasn’t repented.


10 posted on 01/22/2014 2:50:32 PM PST by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: elkfersupper

I guess one could always NOT GOT TO TEXAS if he didn’t like Texas laws. Texas didn’t make this guy come there and murder a cop did they?!?


11 posted on 01/22/2014 2:52:08 PM PST by Dr. Pritchett
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To: artichokegrower
[Former President George W Bush ordered Texas and other states to review the cases, but the US Supreme Court ruled in favour of the state in 2008, saying the president could not effectively enforce The Hague's ruling, leaving it to Congress to pass legislation.]

Texas took this issue to the Supreme Court and won.

“Shoot the juice to me Bruce.”

12 posted on 01/22/2014 2:52:44 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: I cannot think of a name; All

Firing squad is a cheap method...

I bet you’d have no shortage of volunteers for that chore...


13 posted on 01/22/2014 2:53:18 PM PST by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: I cannot think of a name

They might bring back the firing squad if the new drugs for used for the death penalty do work out quite right.


14 posted on 01/22/2014 2:53:43 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: artichokegrower

Will Mexico pay his incarceration bills. If not, they should shut up, and be ashamed for letting this criminal come here. Hang him, and save the rope for the next one.


15 posted on 01/22/2014 2:53:43 PM PST by pallis
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To: artichokegrower
Get arrested in Mexico? You spend months, even years inside one of their notorious prisons. The only way you're getting out if you got a rich relative who will front bribe money. And that's if one of the esses don't beat the crap out of you first.
16 posted on 01/22/2014 2:55:31 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (15 years of FReeping! Congratulations EEE!!)
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To: thackney
This game has been played before. Texas will follow through, again.

Yes, sir. Texans have a real problem with a murderer who executes a cop. As the Seinfeld "Soup Nazi" once said, "Adios, muchacho!"

17 posted on 01/22/2014 2:55:38 PM PST by glennaro
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To: artichokegrower

In other words, there is no doubt about his guilt, just some squishy liberals who think the innocent should die and the guilty should be spared.


18 posted on 01/22/2014 2:56:29 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: I cannot think of a name

He is a cop killer. I have lived in Houston for 37 years, Texas 40 and I remember this crime. I am forty five minutes south of Huntsville if I drive fast I can help flip the switch.


19 posted on 01/22/2014 2:59:54 PM PST by WilliamRobert (Obama so loves the poor he created millions more.)
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To: GeronL

No, Kerry is trying to postpone this. It’s a case of “our state, our laws”. And rightly so. This guy murdered a cop, Guy Gaddis, who was only 24.


20 posted on 01/22/2014 3:01:24 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: artichokegrower
In Texas, we don't just have a Death Row, we have an Express Lane!!

-Ron White-

21 posted on 01/22/2014 3:02:05 PM PST by TexasCajun
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To: artichokegrower
Hey, Edgar. Everything's bigger in texas. Just sayin...


22 posted on 01/22/2014 3:02:33 PM PST by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes everything)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
Texas took this issue to the Supreme Court and won.

In a case argued by now-Sen. Cruz, if I recall.

23 posted on 01/22/2014 3:03:15 PM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Didn’t Ted Cruz argue this case before the Supreme Court.


24 posted on 01/22/2014 3:03:39 PM PST by WilliamRobert (Obama so loves the poor he created millions more.)
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To: artichokegrower

Should he have been notified of his right to talk to the consulate? Yea. Would it in all likelihood have changed the verdict and should that fact therefore be cause to set aside the sentence? No. They caught him running away with the murdered cop’s watch.


25 posted on 01/22/2014 3:04:27 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: VanDeKoik

Let them dig a tunnel to NY.


26 posted on 01/22/2014 3:10:38 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: Still Thinking

“Should he have been notified of his right to talk to the consulate? Yea. “

I disagree. He was a foreign national inside the state of Texas committing a crime. The only “rights” he has are those enumerated in constitution and laws of the state of Texas for foreign nationals. If Texas law did not afford him the “right” to talk to the consulate, then he did not have that right.


27 posted on 01/22/2014 3:14:06 PM PST by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: TexasCajun

As a Texan, I can honestly say it is not fast enough.


28 posted on 01/22/2014 3:15:28 PM PST by bigredkitty1 (March 5,2010. Rest in peace, sweet boy. I will miss you, Big Red.)
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To: GeronL

Or die with it as the case may be.


29 posted on 01/22/2014 3:16:07 PM PST by bigredkitty1 (March 5,2010. Rest in peace, sweet boy. I will miss you, Big Red.)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

You recall correctly. It was Cruz who successfully fought Bush.


30 posted on 01/22/2014 3:19:03 PM PST by forgotten man
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To: artichokegrower
Mexico says Wednesday's execution of Edgar Tamayo, 46, will violate international law.

F them.

31 posted on 01/22/2014 3:22:39 PM PST by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Veteran, 70-71)
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To: forgotten man

Like I didn’t love Ted already.


32 posted on 01/22/2014 3:26:30 PM PST by stormhill
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To: elkfersupper
I would say that you have to live by the rules in Texas, regardless of what a foreign nation or the federal government thinks or wishes.

Not quite that simple.

The U.S. is a signatory to a treaty that says that if a foreigner is arrested for a crime, his home country's embassy should be notified. That's a good rule; if U.S. citizens are arrested in Mexico (or China, or anywhere) we would want the U.S. Embassy to be notified.

For Texas to say that it is not bound by that treaty is bad constitutional law (Supremacy Clause) and bad policy (we don't want Mexico to retaliate against U.S. citizens).

Having said all of that, that doesn't mean that this guy goes free. He has had a trial and an appeal, and he's guilty. There should be some remedy for the failure to notify the Mexican Embassy, but setting him free now is not that remedy.

33 posted on 01/22/2014 3:28:38 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: artichokegrower
Mexico says Wednesday's execution of Edgar Tamayo, 46, will violate international law.

You mean like the law about sneaking into a country illegally!] and committing murder!!!

34 posted on 01/22/2014 3:29:03 PM PST by ontap
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You could not pay me ANY amount to go to mexico.


35 posted on 01/22/2014 3:29:58 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: artichokegrower

Don’t mess with Texas.


36 posted on 01/22/2014 3:30:03 PM PST by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: artichokegrower

If he had never illegally entered the country, he could’ve engaged in his life of crime under Mexico’s legal system.

Instead he was apprehended, and while in custody, shot and killed a man (of which there is no doubt).

Meanwhile, I’m still waiting for Nadil Hasan’s death sentence to be carried out.


37 posted on 01/22/2014 3:30:23 PM PST by a fool in paradise ("Health care is too important to be left to the government.")
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To: Lurking Libertarian

You did read the part about the supreme court not agreeing with you ....right!!


38 posted on 01/22/2014 3:30:51 PM PST by ontap
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To: Jack Hydrazine

A bottle of sleeping pills and a pool would work.


39 posted on 01/22/2014 3:31:31 PM PST by a fool in paradise ("Health care is too important to be left to the government.")
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To: VanDeKoik

If/when Tamayo gets his due, Mexico should promptly close its border with the US in protest.

heh heh


40 posted on 01/22/2014 3:32:55 PM PST by gasport (Will operate for food.)
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To: Soul of the South

His lawyer isn’t just claiming “Mexico wasn’t notified”. They’ve tried putting out the “mentally retarded” meme.

Bill Clinton executed a mentally retarded man while he was governor. Had to show he was tough on crime in the run up to the 1992 election.


41 posted on 01/22/2014 3:33:27 PM PST by a fool in paradise ("Health care is too important to be left to the government.")
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To: bigredkitty1

Like a few days after the murder!


42 posted on 01/22/2014 3:33:42 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: Mark17

mexico is a violation of international law.


43 posted on 01/22/2014 3:34:37 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: Lurking Libertarian
The U.S. is a signatory to a treaty that says that if a foreigner is arrested for a crime, his home country's embassy should be notified.

Well, until the world changes, Americans should not cross the U.S. border.

I haven't and never intend to do so.

44 posted on 01/22/2014 3:36:59 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: a fool in paradise

Edgar Tamayo

Nadil Hasan

Mumia Abu-Jamal

Three chairs no waiting


45 posted on 01/22/2014 3:41:26 PM PST by artichokegrower
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To: ontap
You did read the part about the supreme court not agreeing with you ....right!!

The Supreme Court said the same thing I did-- Texas violated the treaty, but setting the guy free is not the remedy.

46 posted on 01/22/2014 3:43:06 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: artichokegrower

About 11 or 12 minutes to go! GO TEXAS!


47 posted on 01/22/2014 3:48:27 PM PST by matthew fuller (Our enemy list- http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/fact-sheets/2004/anti-gun-lobbying-organizations..)
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To: matthew fuller

"Adios, Mofo."

48 posted on 01/22/2014 3:51:38 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: artichokegrower

Do they really expect the state of Texas to care? You kill a law enforcement officer in Texas, expect to be executed. We would do booster executions every five years for cop killers if we could.


49 posted on 01/22/2014 3:54:57 PM PST by DallasSun
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To: I cannot think of a name
All that quiet laying on a comfortable bed just going to sleep don’t seem like justice to me.

Yeah, I think there should be some terror, violence and pain in the execution of a murderer...or child molester.

50 posted on 01/22/2014 3:56:09 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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