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Photobomb may have sparked Kim Pham's deadly beating outside California nightclub
Daily News ^ | Wednesday, January 22, 2014, 1:13 PM | Carol Kuruvilla

Posted on 01/22/2014 2:56:42 PM PST by Zhang Fei

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To: CivilWarBrewing
Someone should do a study to determine what percentage of violent crimes are influenced by marijuana.

Marijuana tends to act more like a depressant than a stimulus on the mind and body. That's an inexact explanation, but about as close as I can get to describing what it does to a person.

Pot heads tend to be too mellow to do much of anything exciting. Their adrenaline is pretty much turned off.

41 posted on 01/22/2014 4:22:52 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Zhang Fei
"I think people get the impression, from the movies, that fights can go on and on, with kicks and punches being exchanged, and both parties walk away unscathed except for a few bruises. The assailants found out, during this altercation, that kicks to the head can be lethal. They should get multi-decade prison terms as a deterrent."

True. Fighters tend to keep their neck muscles tight, keeping the head from moving fast and far enough to bruise the brain. Anyone taking an unexpected hard shot to the head might be unable to wake up, especially someone with weak neck muscles (PKA, '70s).


42 posted on 01/22/2014 4:35:10 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Windflier
Pot heads tend to be too mellow to do much of anything exciting. Their adrenaline is pretty much turned off.

Except when it's laced with PCP or other substances. More common among lower tier societal elements than faculty members, suburbanites, and hipsters.

Secondly,while not necessarily direct instigators, even the non-laced smokers find themselves in venues where they become easy prey or through the haze of general oblivion misread social signals and cause offense.

Just my two cents based on observation since the sixties. It is what it is and not worth arguing over. Have a good one.

43 posted on 01/22/2014 4:44:09 PM PST by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: a fool in paradise

Well, if the girl had popcorn, they could’ve called the nearest retired jackboot to shoot her in front of her family.


44 posted on 01/22/2014 4:59:39 PM PST by Repeat Offender (What good are conservative principles if we don't stand by them?)
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To: Zhang Fei

Cambodian street gangs are down right evil. If these perps know what’s good for them, they will leave the country and go back to meheeko, where they belong.

Oh, and if a Cambodian street gang does decide to take up the cause, these perps won’t be safe even in meheeko chitty.

This will be interesting to watch.


45 posted on 01/22/2014 5:14:30 PM PST by ConradofMontferrat ( According to mudslimz, my handle is a HATE CRIME. And I HOPE they don't like it.)
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To: Windflier
While pot smokers may be passive, they sure conjure up some twisted ideas while stoned. One look at South Park and guts flying everywhere is testimony to that.

Pot-smoking causes users to trivialize horrible things and even laugh at them.

46 posted on 01/22/2014 5:19:00 PM PST by CivilWarBrewing
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To: Zhang Fei

Vanesa Tapia Zavala, a 25 year old mother of a 5 year old from Santa Ana, has been
charged with one felony count of murder for her role in the death of 23-year-old
Annie Kim Pham in Santa Ana. She is being held in lieu of $1 million bail, if
convicted she faces 15 years to life in prison.

47 posted on 01/22/2014 5:56:50 PM PST by concentric circles
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To: a fool in paradise; CivilWarBrewing

You see more violent episodes with the younger crowd because it’s never just Marijuana. It’s Booze, opiates, cocains, synthetics, contrary reaction to Benzodiazapams and other abused drugs.

The violence is during the actual transaction, involves the dealer and/or money and involves somebody feeling like they are getting ripped off (stoned or not), and not much of a result from actually getting stoned.

There’s so many other factors involved and it’s easy to blame Marijuana, there are advocates the freely admit that the illegal-ness of the Marijuana transaction and the black market prices are what really cause the violence (dealer and cartel) and think decriminalizing Marijuana use and possession would save us a bunch of money and help us get rid of people that shouldn’t be in the gene pool anyway.


48 posted on 01/22/2014 6:21:45 PM PST by Usagi_yo
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To: vladimir998

He was a white hispanic


49 posted on 01/22/2014 8:55:20 PM PST by Insigne123 (It is the soldier, not the community organizer, who gives us freedom of the press)
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To: dfwgator

“A lot of marijuana users also drink and use other drugs.”

A lot of non-marijuana users also drink and use other drugs, too.

MJ — which I don’t use and never have used — is a depressant. Overall, it makes people shiftless and useless, not manic killers.

I would contrast that to the armed police thugs that pulled me from my pickup on my own ranch -— trespassing -— looking for “drug dealers” -— I subsequently learned they had poached an elk on my property, to boot.


50 posted on 01/23/2014 7:14:35 AM PST by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Christie are sure losers. No more!)
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To: knarf

Probably her “race” and her looks were contributing factors to the rage and brutality of her attackers.


51 posted on 01/23/2014 7:16:17 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

“Passive? The Boston Bombers were pot heads to the extreme. James Holmes was too, I think. And the Virginia Tech killer, etc, etc, and ETC!!!!!!”

MJ had nothing to do with any of them, except that they presumably used it to quiet their demons.

More to the point, if you think the MJ and not Islam caused the Boston Bombers to do what they did, then I suggest you stop smoking pot because your intelligence is being impacted.


52 posted on 01/23/2014 7:28:21 AM PST by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Christie are sure losers. No more!)
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To: Zhang Fei
One arrest.

Beaten to death for walking in front of a camera: Mother, 25, on a night out with her husband is charged with murdering girl, 23, because she accidently photobombed their group of friends

53 posted on 01/23/2014 7:38:23 AM PST by csvset
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My point is that what MJ users think is funny, turns into real life events that aren't funny. The BB probably assembled their pressure cooker bombs while stoned, laughing the whole time. Okay, maybe it's the LSD that caused the 'Manson girls' to carve into Sharon Tate's belly with a fork, but the influence of MJ on their horrific actions cannot be ruled out.

Stop defending pot! It makes presidents disengaged!

54 posted on 01/23/2014 9:34:29 AM PST by CivilWarBrewing
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To: CivilWarBrewing

“Stop defending pot! It makes presidents disengaged!”

Ha. If Obama just sat around stoned for the next 3 years, it would be a vast improvement than when he actually does stuff.

In seriousness, I am not a fan of pot. However, hyperbole gets us no where. Reefer madness is not true. Pot makes people losers, not killers.

“The BB probably assembled their pressure cooker bombs while stoned, laughing the whole time.”

Probably, but the influence of Islam is what caused them to plant them. More to the point, the bombs were not very effective. I could do better with tree stump remover, gasoline, and ivory snow soap.


55 posted on 01/23/2014 12:40:04 PM PST by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Christie are sure losers. No more!)
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To: Zhang Fei
Second arrest.

Police make 2nd arrest in fatal beating outside Santa Ana club

56 posted on 01/24/2014 3:01:58 PM PST by csvset
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Second arrest. Police make 2nd arrest in fatal beating outside Santa Ana club

Thanks for the update. I wonder if any of them will be leaving the country.

57 posted on 01/24/2014 4:21:02 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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