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Supreme Court to Decide If One Person Can Buy Gun For Another
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Posted on 01/22/2014 4:33:05 PM PST by Mad Dawgg

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To: Lazamataz

Well, the Republicans will be right on top of defunding the DOJ... you know... right after they defund 0bamacare.

Right.

We’ve clearly got a better chance of seeing God.


101 posted on 01/23/2014 9:08:08 AM PST by Rodamala
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To: Durus
Don’t forget the converse either. The largest military organization in the world tried to pacify America once before and it didn’t work out too well for them.

Very true - the thing that's concerning about a reiteration of that scenario is that the attendant revolution would likely mirror the French Revolution rather than the American.

102 posted on 01/23/2014 9:12:36 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Rodamala

> Well, the Republicans will be right on top of defunding the DOJ... you know... right after they defund 0bamacare.
> Right.
> We’ve clearly got a better chance of seeing God.

If Jesus said it, and His words are trustworthy, then absolutely:
Matthew 5:8 - Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God.


103 posted on 01/23/2014 9:14:51 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: bigbob
all anti-gun crap aside, it is an interesting question, from a layman’s legal sense at least. Minors can’t purchase alcohol, for example, and it’s also illegal for adults to purchase and give booze to minors. An imperfect analogy, but that’s why I think it’s interesting.

Should you be able to buy a bottle of wine or beer and give it to another family member of friend who is over 21? Are you required to ask for ID first? Can you only do this between the hours of 8am-2am m-sat and 12noon-12mid on Sunday?

104 posted on 01/23/2014 9:47:12 AM PST by a fool in paradise ("Health care is too important to be left to the government.")
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To: OneWingedShark

Every time I see comments like yours, the thought runs through my head that your statement is correct... But only if it is actually put to that unspoken use.

Otherwise, it’s just an empty threat that can be safely ignored.

Judging from the lack of dead corrupt politicians, I think our threats are ringing pretty hollow...


105 posted on 01/23/2014 9:54:04 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Durus

We aren’t what we once were.

If we were even half that, we’d already have taken to the field to redress this.


106 posted on 01/23/2014 9:55:05 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: NFHale; Mad Dawgg

>> “It’s only “beyond hope” when everyone gives up.” <<

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Wrong answer.

Its beyond hope because America has lost contact with Yehova.

There is not time remaining for the kind of change that would be required. Think Sodom and Gomorrah. We are there in every way at this moment. Sexual sin is praised and adored, and even mimicked by those too young to even understand.

Even our TEA Party friends are out on a limb embracing the things that are destroying us.

The beginning of Paul’s “falling away” is upon us in full force. Time to start looking for a fool in Jerusalem standing on the Ark of the Covenant.


107 posted on 01/23/2014 10:19:52 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: maine-iac7
"...but then again, it's still hard to fathom that muzzies, along with commies, are running the WH -"

Faggots, too.

Liberal Girl by 10 Pound Test

No Way Jose (No Se Puede!) by 10 Pound Test

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

108 posted on 01/23/2014 10:32:55 AM PST by wku man (We are the 53%! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUXN0GDuLN4)
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To: Dead Corpse
Every time I see comments like yours, the thought runs through my head that your statement is correct... But only if it is actually put to that unspoken use.
Otherwise, it’s just an empty threat that can be safely ignored.

This is true; but the founders knew it well:

Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.

Judging from the lack of dead corrupt politicians, I think our threats are ringing pretty hollow...

Nobody wants to be the guy to rock the boat; nobody wants to be the guy that was just a crazy loon; and those in power take advantage of it. Those in power know what Yuri Bezmenov talked about and want the opposition demoralized and normalized so that it is impossible to resist them.

109 posted on 01/23/2014 10:33:53 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Dead Corpse
It is always in people's nature to put up with bearable evils rather than "take to the field". If the British hadn't been so ham fisted as to perpetuate the "shot heard 'round the world" we might still be tea drinkers with bad teeth.

It is also in nature of the tyrannical to over reach. It is only a matter of time before history repeats itself.

110 posted on 01/23/2014 10:34:32 AM PST by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: OneWingedShark

Uhm...I have no idea why you would think that. We aren’t the french and we would be fighting against socialism not for it.


111 posted on 01/23/2014 10:35:57 AM PST by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: Dead Corpse
"We aren’t what we once were.

If we were even half that, we’d already have taken to the field to redress this."

Well, I guess it's time to quit talking and get back to what we once were. Peacefully I hope, but the longer we dither, read egg-headed books from egg-headed blowhards, and try to play political chess, the more likely it's going to get ugly. Action...NOW!

Liberal Girl by 10 Pound Test

No Way Jose (No Se Puede!) by 10 Pound Test

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

112 posted on 01/23/2014 10:37:39 AM PST by wku man (We are the 53%! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUXN0GDuLN4)
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To: editor-surveyor

“...Wrong answer....”

It is what it is, friend. You believe what you want.


113 posted on 01/23/2014 10:40:23 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: OneWingedShark

No matter who “goes first”, that will be the gauntlet they run. It won’t matter who righteous the cause or how right the action... We aren’t fighting a virtuous or principles enemy here.

And yet we keep treating them as such. As if they’ll play by the rules.

They won’t. They aren’t. And we shouldn’t either.


114 posted on 01/23/2014 10:46:17 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: editor-surveyor; NFHale
"Wrong answer."

No, right answer.

Part of giving up is losing touch with, and the fear of God. Yes, we need a massive spiritual awakening in this nation, which likely won't ever happen. But those of us who refuse to give up on God, and on the Constitution, will receive our reward, either here on Earth or in Heaven.

Anyone who has given up on God and/or the USA might as well go ahead and start sewing his white surrender flag, and figuring out which tent he wants in his FEMA camp.

Liberal Girl by 10 Pound Test

No Way Jose (No Se Puede!) by 10 Pound Test

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

115 posted on 01/23/2014 10:47:01 AM PST by wku man (We are the 53%! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUXN0GDuLN4)
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To: Durus

Doesn’t get much more “ham fisted” than the Waco debacle, and yet... Here we sit.

Everyone seems to be waiting for some big spark... Even as we act as our own wet blanket.


116 posted on 01/23/2014 10:47:39 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: wku man

There is no “peaceful” way back from where we are. Half our population is beholden to the governments largesse. Either via paycheck or welfare.

You aren’t changing that at the ballot box.


117 posted on 01/23/2014 10:48:34 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: wku man

Dog Brother, good to see you.


118 posted on 01/23/2014 10:49:38 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Durus
Uhm...I have no idea why you would think that. We aren’t the french and we would be fighting against socialism not for it.

The hallmark of the French Revolution was the Terror, wherein the nobility (and their families and their associates) were savagely put to death; IIRC often w/o any legal justification or forms (i.e. trials or defenses).

“Terror is nothing else than justice, prompt, severe, inflexible.”
“The government in a revolution is the despotism of liberty against tyranny.”
— Maximilien Robespierre

If/when we revolt against our ruling caste, it will be hard to reign in emotions and ensure that they are given the proper trials; there is more than ample evidence against them.

119 posted on 01/23/2014 10:51:07 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Dead Corpse
No matter who “goes first”, that will be the gauntlet they run. It won’t matter who righteous the cause or how right the action... We aren’t fighting a virtuous or principles enemy here.
And yet we keep treating them as such. As if they’ll play by the rules.
They won’t. They aren’t. And we shouldn’t either.

Oh, just because you play by the rules doesn't mean you can't use dirty, dirty tricks.

120 posted on 01/23/2014 10:56:56 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Dead Corpse

We are trodding the same ground as we have many times. If you think it is time to start the ball rolling go for it, others will either follow you or won’t. You aren’t in a position to chide others for something you aren’t willing to do yourself.


121 posted on 01/23/2014 10:58:35 AM PST by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: Mad Dawgg
Supreme Court to Decide If One Person Can Buy Gun For Another

Or...

Supreme Court to Decide If One Person Can Buy Hammer For Another

Supreme Court to Decide If One Person Can Buy Axe For Another

Supreme Court to Decide If One Person Can Buy Hatchet For Another

Supreme Court to Decide If One Person Can Buy Health Insurance For Another

And on, and on...

5.56mm

122 posted on 01/23/2014 11:02:23 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: OneWingedShark

RE ruling caste:

I’ve often wondered what happened to the Tory / Loyalist families in this country (the ones that stayed put) after the American Revolution came to an end. I guess it’s pretty easy to speculate... but I haven’t seen anything written of it approaching the French Revolution’s Terror campaign.

Interesting note: one of early America’s greatest heroes, Robert Rogers (of Rogers Rangers fame) basically was erased from history for decades because he remained loyal to the Crown. Yet his exploits during the French-Indian War - especially feats like the raid on the Abenakis at St. Francis ultimately helped create us as a country, and men that he trained helped to win the war against the Brits for our independence. He wasn’t brought back into the history books until years later, by the American historian Francis Parkman.


123 posted on 01/23/2014 11:05:17 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Dead Corpse
"You aren’t changing that at the ballot box."

We might if we do two things:

1) quit nominating RINOs that the conservative base won't vote for (hello GOP, this means Krispy Kreme, Bush, Ryan, Mitch Daniels, et al), and

2) fight voter fraud with every fiber of our collective being. Despite evidence of wide-spread fraud before and during the 2012 election, Mittens just completely threw in the towel. Why? Probably because he didn't want to be portrayed by the Obammunist lickspittle media as a whiny sore loser. Same thing for a lot of "conservative" pundits and radio talkers after the election. Well hell's bells! Of course the Leftists are going to call us whiny sore losers! Does that mean we shouldn't fight for fair and accurate elections, just because our enemies are going to say bad things about us? Hell no!

Before I'm willing to say it can't be done, I'd like to at least see some effort put into it first.

Liberal Girl by 10 Pound Test

No Way Jose (No Se Puede!) by 10 Pound Test

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

124 posted on 01/23/2014 11:16:06 AM PST by wku man (We are the 53%! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUXN0GDuLN4)
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To: NFHale
Likewise, bro.

Liberal Girl by 10 Pound Test

No Way Jose (No Se Puede!) by 10 Pound Test

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

125 posted on 01/23/2014 11:18:03 AM PST by wku man (We are the 53%! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUXN0GDuLN4)
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To: wku man

Yeah, I saw the “Liberal Girl” vid... Very funny!

I’m sure it pissed off the usual suspects!! Ha!


126 posted on 01/23/2014 11:26:18 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: M Kehoe
"And on, and on..."

People think its a laugh and all but if Big Media have their way any digital media will never be legally transferred between owners.

And once that precedent is set it will wind its way into everything else.

127 posted on 01/23/2014 11:29:40 AM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Mad Dawgg; Lurking Libertarian; Perdogg; JDW11235; Clairity; Spacetrucker; Art in Idaho; GregNH; ...

FReepmail me to subscribe to or unsubscribe from the SCOTUS ping list.

128 posted on 01/23/2014 11:34:33 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: OneWingedShark

I’ll say a prayer, but you should note... A lot of the answers to those prayers have been an emphatic “no” as of late...


129 posted on 01/23/2014 11:35:19 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Durus

Bags are packed, mags are loaded.

Say when...


130 posted on 01/23/2014 11:36:00 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: wku man

No, Yeshua told us what to expect, so that when we see it come we don’t waste our effort fighting these ‘constitutional’ chimeras.

Contrary to what the easy believers spout, we do not have a ‘Godly’ constitution, but a Satanic one that protects the deceivers through “treaties” that can wipe out the frivolous window dressing with the stroke of a pen.


131 posted on 01/23/2014 11:39:05 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: wku man

1. You need to reform the GOP leadership first. Since these folks are chosen by Rovian insiders... Good luck.

2. We’ve had voter ID laws on the ballot the last couple of elections. They are still failing. What good is it if the Dems just skews the votes in their favor? For the States where they do get these laws passed, judges shut ‘em down again.

I’m not suggesting we stop fighting the uphill battle. Just be aware that the guy standing next to you pushing that rock is Sisyphus.


132 posted on 01/23/2014 11:39:22 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Dead Corpse; OneWingedShark

>> “As if they’ll play by the rules.” <<

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They change them more often than their underwear.


133 posted on 01/23/2014 11:43:51 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Rodamala

>> “We’ve clearly got a better chance of seeing God.” <<

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That’s a 100% chance, regardless of which side you’re watching from!


134 posted on 01/23/2014 11:45:36 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Yep. Protecting themselves from the Tea Party.

http://www.wsbradio.com/weblogs/jamie-dupree/2014/jan/22/gop-moving-ahead-2016-primary-changes/


135 posted on 01/23/2014 11:46:04 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: editor-surveyor
Get to work on that surrender flag, slave.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

136 posted on 01/23/2014 11:55:12 AM PST by wku man (We are the 53%! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUXN0GDuLN4)
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To: sergeantdave; Mad Dawgg

>> “Let’s begin at the beginning: Why do you hate me?” <<

Yes, let’s always begin with a strawman.

You keep switching back and forth between sh!t talk and smooth talk, like most agents provocateurs are trained to do.

You’re all over the map.


137 posted on 01/23/2014 12:01:20 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: wku man

Go to work on digging your way out of that stinky p-nut butter cave!


138 posted on 01/23/2014 12:02:44 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Dead Corpse

Here in the Bay Area we had a real pageant of tyranny yesterday.

a BART cop was taken out by a member of his own squad, during a supposed ‘investigation.’

He was wearing a uniform with “POLICE” lettered across his back in 5” tall letters, and yet was shot in the same back by his own man.

The MSM are tripping all over themselves to declare it an “accident.” The word accident pops up sometimes twice in the same sentence in the TV coverage.


139 posted on 01/23/2014 12:10:26 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Dead Corpse
"1. You need to reform the GOP leadership first. Since these folks are chosen by Rovian insiders... Good luck."

So we start at the local level, then the state, then the national level. Grassroots efforts, across the nation, are the key to retaking the GOP. Get the conservative base organized and energized, and take over from the bottom up. You're right; there's no way to reform the party from the top down. It'll have to be the base rising up to take charge.

"2. We’ve had voter ID laws on the ballot the last couple of elections. They are still failing. What good is it if the Dems just skews the votes in their favor? For the States where they do get these laws passed, judges shut ‘em down again."

Well, of course they're going to fail if we just lay down and let them be violated. Again, it's us, the base, the conservative rabble, that's going to have to quit bitching and make something happen. If liberal judges won't enforce voter fraud laws, we need to get on our legislators and impeachment the black-robed tyrants. We need to lean on our governors, and tell them to lean on those judges and elections officials, and let them know that fraud won't be tolerated. Remember, "we" surround "them"...if we can mobilize and motivate the base, I believe we can do it.

However, I spent long enough in the Army to have learned you always plan for the worst, and work for the best. The worst may very well happen, but that doesn't mean we should just shrug our shoulders, and either turn tail and flee to South America or the Philippines, or play the violin while the Titanic sinks. Even if the wost is a foregone conclusion, we owe it to ourselves and our families to do everything we can to avoid that nightmare.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

140 posted on 01/23/2014 12:11:16 PM PST by wku man (We are the 53%! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUXN0GDuLN4)
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To: editor-surveyor
?? I have no idea what that even means. Is that some kind of surrender-monkey slang?

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

141 posted on 01/23/2014 12:15:17 PM PST by wku man (We are the 53%! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUXN0GDuLN4)
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To: wku man

It means “get your little head outta my a$$hole.”

You need more help than the ‘average’ troll.


142 posted on 01/23/2014 12:59:26 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
Wow...you really are a sick little man. Please, go ahead and surrender to the Obammunists. You'll just get in the way once the work starts.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

143 posted on 01/23/2014 1:13:15 PM PST by wku man (We are the 53%! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUXN0GDuLN4)
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To: wku man

You’re the one surrendering by playing by their ever-changing rules instead of doing something intelligent.

The very sick and very little boy is you, with your personal attack line at the end of your every post.

Troll off punk.


144 posted on 01/23/2014 1:38:17 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
"The very sick and very little boy is you, with your personal attack line at the end of your every post."

Personal attack line? Not only are you a sick little man, but you obviously know nothing about the US Army. I have no trouble believing you never served. Probably because you're too delicate.

Oh! I think I know who you are...Pajama Boy, is that you?

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

145 posted on 01/23/2014 1:52:38 PM PST by wku man (We are the 53%! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUXN0GDuLN4)
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To: lee martell
The Gift of a gun to a trained a responsible person is a great thing
146 posted on 01/23/2014 1:52:56 PM PST by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: sergeantdave
Do you think that the cowards in the ATF and FBI are combat-trained organizations that can disarm Americans?

When they come for your weapons, they will get them, because they will be very selective and only get a few people at a time.

I don't care how combat trained you are, there is such a thing as overwhelming force.

The real life Crocodile Dundee, the one that spawned the movie said they would never take his guns. He is dead and they took his guns from his cold dead hands.

Some good advice here. When they come for your guns.

147 posted on 01/23/2014 2:14:45 PM PST by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: crz
Ya...and what did they have to pay Randy Weaver in the end?

What did Lon Horuchi cost them at Waco?

148 posted on 01/23/2014 2:34:51 PM PST by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: Durus
We aren’t the french

We aren't the Patriots that created this great Republic either.

149 posted on 01/23/2014 2:47:55 PM PST by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: Mad Dawgg

Headlines the Founders never expected:

Supreme Court to Decide If One Person Can Buy Gun For Another


150 posted on 01/23/2014 2:51:53 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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