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Windows 8: What's The Big Deal?
January 22, 2014 | This Just In

Posted on 01/22/2014 9:52:38 PM PST by This Just In

So our child finally received that Asus notebook as a gift from a loved one-as some of you already know from a previous post (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3110216/posts).

After reading all of the comments, and visiting various sites concerning Windows 8, we finally got to experience the OS for ourselves.

The box was delivered just in time for school. Spring college courses, as many of your know, have started. We were edger to get started with the notebook. Encouraging the kid to start familiarizing himself with the tool. I was especially curious to see for myself whether or not all the talk/bemoaning about Windows 8 was all it was cracked up to be.

Frankly, I was hoping the naysayers were all prone to exaggeration, and that this notebook would be a breeze to work with (namely, Windows 8). We own a MacBook Pro as well as a Dell with Windows XP. A cinch to use right out of the box. Why would I want my child to have to deal with an OS that is so counter-intuitive, so moronically bass ackwardly unsimple (is that a word? If not, it should be for this very reason)? So there I was, secretly hoping that the bemoaners were just chronic, nitpicky complainers.

Well, I've just joined the Chronic-Nitpicky-Exaggerating-Naysayers-Anti-Windows 8-Club.

For goodness sakes. You mean to tell me that some genius designed! that OS?! Honestly...

For the last several days these are the sounds/reactions I've been hearing from the college kid while "working" on the notebook:

"Sigh. Why is it so slow?" "This is taking forever" "What does this mean?"

Just yesterday, after hearing about our new notebook-without any prompting, a coworker calmly and flatly stated, "If you can't figure out how to turn it off, it's a Windows 8".

That brief statement was on the money. Why should it take a magnifying glass, blood hound, a world atlas, and Stephen Hawking to figure out how to turn off the friggin machine?!

So, in closing, I would like to say hello to my new friends in this not-so-exclusvie-club of Window 8ters. I can now officially commiserate with you.

If any of you have any advice, recommendations, or Windows 8 experiences that you wish to share with the rest of us, please do.


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1 posted on 01/22/2014 9:52:38 PM PST by This Just In
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To: This Just In

I forget to mention that we also own the iPads and iPods.


2 posted on 01/22/2014 9:56:04 PM PST by This Just In
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To: This Just In

I have a windows 8 notebook, and it took a while to learn to turn it off. My best suggestion . . . forget all the boxes of stuff Windows wants you to use. Put all your stuff on the desktop. Use desktop for EVERYTHING!


3 posted on 01/22/2014 9:57:47 PM PST by BAW ("If you like your health plan, you can keep your health plan. Period.")
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To: This Just In

Windows 8 may be nice with a hand held touch screen but it sucks for a laptop or desktop OS.

Windows 7 is the way to go with either of those (if you want a Windows based OS).


4 posted on 01/22/2014 9:57:51 PM PST by DB
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To: This Just In

>> “If you can’t figure out how to turn it off, it’s a Windows 8”.

We have one Win8 computer, and I’ll admit it’s a love/hate relationship.

The biggest problem I have with ALL of the “tablet” or “smartphone” devices is this: “How the F do you QUIT!!! an APPLICATION??!?” I just want to make the dxmn thing GO AWAY and I often can’t figure out how to accomplish that.


5 posted on 01/22/2014 9:59:43 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: This Just In

I hate this OS as well but what I have done was pinned to the task bar only the things I use on a daily basis and ignore the rest. Makes things so much easier for me.


6 posted on 01/22/2014 10:00:06 PM PST by hsmomx3
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To: This Just In

8 blows. From what I understand, they try to fix some of what’s wrong with 8 in 8.1, but in reality it’s just a picture of what the fix would be (Start menu). Leave it to MicroShaft to spend years and millions screwing up something simple, then be unable to put it back right.


7 posted on 01/22/2014 10:00:14 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: BAW

How can you get rid of those boxes and place those on your desktop?

It’s a real pain in the donkey. Can’t use the pad to scroll. You have to use the darn screen. Unless, of course, you use the up/down arrows using your cursor.


8 posted on 01/22/2014 10:01:08 PM PST by This Just In
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To: This Just In

I bought a laptop for my daughter for Christmas and I couldn’t believe how bad Windows 8 is. I installed a program called StartIsBack that made the interface look like Windows 7. It’s much much better now.


9 posted on 01/22/2014 10:03:23 PM PST by wsack
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To: Nervous Tick

Welcome to the club. It’s as if they designers are zealot gamers, and they designed the OS so that you have to play Windows 8 Portal.


10 posted on 01/22/2014 10:03:48 PM PST by This Just In
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To: BAW

That is why I downloaded Startisback..great little app, puts the little windows button right on the desktop screen, put that in the second I got my Dell desktop with Windows 8. Ive never gone back to the tile screen so my PC looks just like windows 7


11 posted on 01/22/2014 10:05:51 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: DB
Windows 8 may be nice with a hand held touch screen but it sucks for a laptop or desktop OS.

Unless you put in a small amount of work to use the Windows 8 desktop by default, then it's a better version of Windows 7.

12 posted on 01/22/2014 10:06:45 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Moonman62

Is that why Windows 8 has basically destroyed Windows based desktop sales?

HP is bringing back Windows 7.

http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/hp-brings-back-windows-7-popular-demand-2D11961317


13 posted on 01/22/2014 10:10:58 PM PST by DB
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To: This Just In
Windows Ate repair video...
14 posted on 01/22/2014 10:15:17 PM PST by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: NoCmpromiz

:^D Don’t tempt me.


15 posted on 01/22/2014 10:17:12 PM PST by This Just In
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To: DB

Just about every PC is slow out of the box because of the bloatware included with the computer that subsidizes the costs. Just use a program like pcdecrapifier that takes off the bloatware and use the Windows free antivirus and the computer will be very fast and smooth.


16 posted on 01/22/2014 10:17:49 PM PST by JMS
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To: DB
HP is bringing back Windows 7.

If they really wanted to build sales, they'd bring back XP. Probably the best operating system Micro$oft will ever have.

At least 7 is functional, not garbage like Vista.

17 posted on 01/22/2014 10:18:59 PM PST by PAR35
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To: DB

My brother bought his “new” Toshiba laptop off the Toshiba canada site with Win7 over Christmas. Apparently, you have to request it from what he learned and they almost never tell their customers they actually still sell the laptops with W7.


18 posted on 01/22/2014 10:22:08 PM PST by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: This Just In

Windows 8 is awful and windows 7 is better but I can’t deal with PC’s because they are junk!Buy a Mac and get away from the windows OS and you will be a much happier camper!I learned my lesson years ago!


19 posted on 01/22/2014 10:22:24 PM PST by plainshame
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Do you still see the My Computer stuff etc on Starisback? Our receptionist started crying after she got her computer with W8, even weeks later.


20 posted on 01/22/2014 10:24:05 PM PST by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: DB

Microsoft’s big mistake was forcing people to use the new interface rather than making it easy to use the desktop mode (It is easier with 8.1). So Microsoft did give 8 a bad reputation, but a better version of Windows 7 is underneath the new stuff and easy to access if you try.


21 posted on 01/22/2014 10:24:29 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: This Just In

How to boot to desktop mode in Windows 8.1 | PCWorld http://www.pcworld.com/article/2043243/how-to-boot-to-desktop-mode-in-windows-8-1.html


22 posted on 01/22/2014 10:25:27 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: NoCmpromiz

This pretty much sums it all up for me:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5kU6xXvtRk


23 posted on 01/22/2014 10:25:53 PM PST by This Just In
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To: smokingfrog

Thank you, smokingfrog. Deeply appreciate it.


24 posted on 01/22/2014 10:26:48 PM PST by This Just In
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To: Moonman62
Unless you put in a small amount of work to use the Windows 8 desktop by default, then it's a better version of Windows 7.

Right. I loathe the default start screen and it's idiot apps. So I uninstalled them. Now only my desktop applications show up on my start screen. Whenever I want to use one, I hit the windows key which toggles between desktop and start screen. Now I can easily find the application, push the icon button, and W8 switches back to the desktop and starts the chosen application. Easier than hunting through a list of applications in the old start menu/

Also, from the desktop alt-f4 brings up the shutdown option screen.


25 posted on 01/22/2014 10:27:50 PM PST by 867V309 (I love potatoes-except, of course, Lena Dunham)
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To: This Just In

1. Do a clean install of Windows 7 Pro x64 and be done with Windows 8 forever.

2. Alternatively, and far simpler, download and install Classic Shell, to bypass Metro and install a real Start Menu. Whatever you do, DO NOT “upgrade” to 8.1 if it’s not already 8.1. Such an upgrade has a very high probability of going REALLY bad, and it installs some very nastily, tightly integrated Microsoft proprietary products like SkyDrive, integrated PC/web/cloud Bing search, etc.


26 posted on 01/22/2014 10:28:27 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: catnipman

Tip of the hat to you, and thank you. The notebook does not have Windows 8.1.


27 posted on 01/22/2014 10:30:38 PM PST by This Just In
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To: This Just In

Windows 8.1 is much better than xp.

I downloaded Classic shell, but before I got around to installing it on day 2, I had already figured out almost all the little tweaks I wanted in 8.1.

This is much easier and better, I boot straight to desktop with no sign in and use the start page only to store what amount to icons for my programs.

Anything that you want to change, move, or turn off, just google it for the answer.


28 posted on 01/22/2014 10:31:32 PM PST by ansel12 (Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: max americana

You see everything, all it does is bring back the start button..on the desktop you can have My Computer, My Documents, Recycle bin, anything you want..and with startisback you can have it so that when the PC boots up it goes straight to the desktop..I dont have to see those annoying as hell tiles anymore
http://www.startisback.com/
that’s the link check it out..works with windows 8.1 and 8


29 posted on 01/22/2014 10:35:31 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: ansel12

Well, we’ve used XP for quite a number of years and so I completely disagree with you. Basically, you have to redecorate your Windows 8.1 house in order to use it without going mad. Not so with the XP.


30 posted on 01/22/2014 10:36:12 PM PST by This Just In
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To: Sarah Barracuda

We noticed that the tiles featuring news stories all had this rather specific “theme”. We were motivated to change that in a hurry.


31 posted on 01/22/2014 10:38:31 PM PST by This Just In
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Well, we’ve used XP for quite a number of years and so I completely disagree with you. Basically, you have to redecorate your Windows 8.1 house in order to use it without going mad. Not so with the XP.

Does your VCR still flash 12:00?


32 posted on 01/22/2014 10:40:15 PM PST by 867V309 (I love potatoes-except, of course, Lena Dunham)
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The second I got my PC I put in the start button and said adios to the tiles..best thing I ever did I would never have purchased a PC with windows 8 without it..when I had issues with my PC a week ago and Dell had to do the remote service, the guy was like “Hey how did you get the start button” LOL


33 posted on 01/22/2014 10:40:36 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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for later


34 posted on 01/22/2014 10:40:48 PM PST by bonfire
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To: Moonman62
a better version of Windows 7 is underneath the new stuff and easy to access if you try.

Exactly where M$ went wrong. Why should we need to work at making their stuff 'work' the way we the consumer want it to? Why would they even think that something designed for a touch screen device would even be thought of for install on a desktop? Win ATE poynte WON is only a cosmetic smoke 'n mirrors thingie, that gives you a sort of pacifier instead of correcting the flawed logic behind the thing.

Maybe a unified touch screen interface is fine for all the versions of Win ATE installed on touch screen devices, but they should have left the desktop and laptop user interfaces alone.

But then we know they smoke dope out there on the left coast...

I'm not buying anything that has Win ATE on it, and I have two XP laptops that I need to decide what to do with in the next couple of months. One is old enough that finding Win7 drivers may be hard, so it most likely will become a Linux box of some flavor (been playing with Mint which I mostly like..)

The other one came out in the time frame when users were rejecting Vista and manufacturers would still sell you an XP box, so Vista drivers - which for the most part work on Win7 - are available which makes it hopeful that a Win7 re-braining of it will be mostly hassle-free.

35 posted on 01/22/2014 10:43:16 PM PST by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: 867V309

What’s a VCR? :^)


36 posted on 01/22/2014 10:43:27 PM PST by This Just In
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To: This Just In

Slow? Nobody says that. It’s actually much lighter than 7 is. I get the GUY complaints.. but honestly to me it is much faster..especially if you are a touch typist.


37 posted on 01/22/2014 10:43:32 PM PST by aft_lizard
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To: Sarah Barracuda

“...the guy was like “Hey how did you get the start button” LOL”

Gotta love it


38 posted on 01/22/2014 10:44:50 PM PST by This Just In
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To: plainshame

Nothing could be worse than a Mac. I was forced to work on the awful thing for two years. Finally the company went all PC to save on IT cost.


39 posted on 01/22/2014 10:44:51 PM PST by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: This Just In

:)


40 posted on 01/22/2014 10:45:16 PM PST by 867V309 (I love potatoes-except, of course, Lena Dunham)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Although, here is my concern:

If we install a program, wouldn’t this void the warranty?


41 posted on 01/22/2014 10:45:49 PM PST by This Just In
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To: PAR35

Lol..it was only functional after sp2. Windows 7 is far far superior o’s in every way over xp.


42 posted on 01/22/2014 10:46:31 PM PST by aft_lizard
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To: This Just In

I so hate windows 8. Damn side bar stuff shows up frequently, except when i want it to show up so i can turn off the computer. I also miss being able to look down at the bottom of the computer to see what time it is. Why do these people think it’s so much better to redesign something to the point where people have to learn stuff they thought they were already done learning. Same with those websites that redesign their pages to the point where you have to once again figure out where everything is, it is damn annoying.


43 posted on 01/22/2014 10:47:57 PM PST by psjones (u)
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To: This Just In

A Toyota Prius commercial? That sums up your views on Windows 8? I don’t get it.


44 posted on 01/22/2014 10:49:35 PM PST by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: This Just In

Shouldn’t it be called Boxes 8 instead of Window 8?


45 posted on 01/22/2014 10:50:49 PM PST by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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I just went straight from XP to this 8.1, and after I got into tweaking it to my liking, I became a big fan.

I am so glad that I did not listen to the nonsense about installing Classic Shell, and take a big step backward.

Once you start personalizing your computer you will find that it is easy to shape to your liking.

Like I said, if you want to change something, google for the method.

By the way, I just re-installed “XP service pack 1” on my old 2003 computer to start preparing it for maximum utility and security (as an online backup for repairs) after the April cut-off, I then loaded Service pack 3, years of updates and adjustments and tweaks, security programs and so on.

I think a lot of you have forgotten how dismal XP used to be, compared to the version of it that you were using recently.


46 posted on 01/22/2014 10:50:59 PM PST by ansel12 (Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: psjones

This list of con’s on this OS is nothing short of incredible. And we thought Vista was bad.


47 posted on 01/22/2014 10:51:36 PM PST by This Just In
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To: NoCmpromiz

No matter what upgrade you choose, some work is going to be required. For most people who have been using Windows, Windows 8 or Windows 7 is going to be the best option. Microsoft has been treating end users like ants for over 30 years, but they’ve also made a fortune and dominated their market. Yes, they are an Evil Empire, but don’t add to the misery by not trying some simple fixes for 8.


48 posted on 01/22/2014 10:51:51 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: gunsequalfreedom

Prius? Hmmmm. Must not have gone to the correct link. I’ll try again.


49 posted on 01/22/2014 10:52:22 PM PST by This Just In
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To: Nervous Tick
The biggest problem I have with ALL of the “tablet” or “smartphone” devices is this: “How the F do you QUIT!!! an APPLICATION??!?”

With Android devices, go into Applications, find the Task manager, and put it on the home screen. You can always turn off your applications with Task Manager.

50 posted on 01/22/2014 10:53:31 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Obamacare: You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.)
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