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Schumer seeks to poison Tea Party ["government can be a force for good"]
The Hill ^ | January 23, 2014 | Alexander Bolton

Posted on 01/23/2014 4:19:11 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

Sen. Charles Schumer (N.Y.), the Senate Democrats’ political guru, has a plan to poison the Tea Party by driving a wedge between its rich funders and its blue-collar rank and file.

Schumer, one of the Democrats’ most influential strategists, will argue in a major speech on Thursday that super-wealthy Tea Party donors have hijacked the grassroots movement that grew out of the economic anxiety of the 2008 financial collapse to suit their pro-big business agenda.

He’ll lay out a blueprint for how Democrats can exploit what he argues is a weakness in the opposition in the address at the Center for American Progress, a pro-Democratic think tank founded by John Podesta, who just joined President Obama’s inner circle at the White House.

Schumer will argue that Democrats must defend popular government programs such as extended unemployment benefits and student loan subsidies to persuade Tea Party voters that they can benefit from federal programs.

“He will suggest specific issues for Democrats to focus on in 2014 in order to remind the Tea Party and its supporters that government can be a force for good,” his office said.

Schumer contends powerful Tea Party patrons such as David H. Koch and Charles Koch have directed the anger of many independent voters toward the government to ease federal regulation of their multibillion-dollar industries.

“Wealthy Tea Party leaders have convinced Tea Party rank and file and many other Americans that anti-government ideology is the answer to their problems — but many Tea Partiers and sympathizers support government programs — Democrats must exploit the difference,” Schumer’s office said in a statement announcing the speech.

Schumer also plans to touch on Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission, the landmark Supreme Court ruling that gave outside groups more leeway to spend on elections. He supports legislation that would force outside political groups to identify major donors.

Tea Party representatives scoffed at Schumer’s plans, saying they’d heard similar arguments for years.

“Liberals have been trying to claim the Tea Party is something other than what it is from the beginning,” said Sal Russo, co-founder and chief strategist of Tea Party Express, a major Tea Party political action committee. “We heard everything from Karl Rove’s orchestrating it to the Koch brothers are doing it or oil companies.”

Russo said the Tea Party is an indigenous grassroots reaction to “exactly what Chuck Schumer is,” and that the movement resulted from “an oppressive intrusion into the people’s lives by the federal government, runaway spending and an unsustainable national debt.”

Schumer, however, thinks that Tea Party leaders are at a vulnerable crossroads because their unifying ideology centered on the federal deficit has become outdated.

A nationwide poll by Quinnipiac University earlier this month showed that 39 percent of respondents said the economy should be President Obama’s top priority while only 23 percent said it should be the federal budget deficit.

A CBS News poll from mid November showed 31 percent of adults nationwide rated the economy and jobs as the most important problem facing the country while only 7 percent pointed to the budget.

Democratic pollsters say a majority of Tea Party voters support increasing the minimum wage, which Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) will address later this year.

“What the senator is getting at is they’re very populist and they are hard-pressed economically,” Democratic pollster Celinda Lake said of Tea Party voters. “So I think there is an interesting point right now where Democrats can lay out an economic agenda that really pressures the Tea Party leaders.”

Lake said Schumer and other Democratic leaders would be hard pressed to convince Tea Party voters to embrace big government but they can push a populist economic agenda that resonates with them.

“A majority of Tea Partiers do support raising the minimum wage. They like to stand up for the little guy,” she said.

Democrats also believe a majority of Tea Party voters support extending unemployment benefits, which Senate Republicans blocked before Congress left town last week.

Schumer also wants state officials to mull switching to a “jungle primary” system similar to what was adopted in California in which the two highest recipients of votes in a nonpartisan primary advance to the general election.

He believes this will reduce the influence of conservative ideologues in low-turnout races. The election of some hard-core conservatives has made it more difficult for Senate Democrats in Washington.

Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah), for example, helped trigger the October government shutdown. He defeated former Sen. Robert Bennett, who had been more willing to cross the aisle, in a GOP contest

But the election of conservatives has also worked to the advantage of Senate Democrats by making it more difficult for Republicans to win Senate races.

Democrats will look to keep the pressure on after Schumer’s speech with a national press conference call on Friday focused on extending unemployment benefits.

And in another sign of better coordination between congressional Democrats and Obama’s team, Organizing for Action, a grassroots action group created to support the president’s agenda, has helped coordinate events around the country this week to pressure GOP lawmakers to support extended unemployment benefits.

Outside groups such as the AFL-CIO, SEIU, AFSCME and MomsRising have also participated in the coalition targeting GOP lawmakers. They helped organize events targeting Sens. Kelly Ayotte (R-N.H.) and Mark Kirk (R-Ill.) on Wednesday, Sen. Pat Toomey (R-Pa.) on Thursday and Sen. Dean Heller (R-Nev.) on Friday, according to Democratic aides briefed on their activities.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: biggovernment; podesta; populistmessage; socialism; teaparty; unemployment; unions; welfare

1 posted on 01/23/2014 4:19:12 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Can be... Yeah, sure. But the overwhelming majority of the time adding government bureaucracy and waste to any issue makes it worse.


2 posted on 01/23/2014 4:24:51 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

How does he plan to do that when the Rats’ beloved amnesty will be taking jobs away from American workers?


3 posted on 01/23/2014 4:25:12 AM PST by firebrand
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“A majority of Tea Partiers do support raising the minimum wage. They like to stand up for the little guy,” she said.

There is still much work to be done. Support for raising the minimum wage is support for big government.


4 posted on 01/23/2014 4:27:51 AM PST by cdcdawg (Be seeing you...)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Democrats believe ‘this’, Democrats believe ‘that’.

The problem with the Democrats and the Republicans is that neither of the two parties listen to the citizens. Not the residents, not the Illegal Aliens... THE CITIZENS! And then they are surprised at how low our opinion is of them? But then in all candor their opinion of the citizens is a Lot lower in comparison. All we are is a cash cow to be milked and milked, forgetting that the cow has to be ‘freshened’ to be able to milk her later on.

And we are just about dried up and empty. Their attempts at ‘freshening’ just aren’t working this time. Can’t you feel it?


5 posted on 01/23/2014 4:29:30 AM PST by The Working Man
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Our rich funders?

Like the chamber of commerce?


6 posted on 01/23/2014 4:30:05 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Again with the Koch brothers nonsense but not a word about George Soros, Bill Gates, nearly every money man in Hollywood and a thousand other left-wing fat cats who support Mr. Obama, the DNC and all the PACs, NGOs, think-tanks and foundations on the left. How tiresome.


7 posted on 01/23/2014 4:31:22 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Jealousy is when you count someone else's blessings instead of your own.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Author is a left wing jerk. This reads like a press release from the Schumer office.


8 posted on 01/23/2014 4:32:03 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Government has been very, very good to Schumer and the other multi-millionaires that claim to be “public servants.” They are the Fat Cats now, with the five counties clustered around Washington D.C. the wealthiest in the USA.
No wonder he hates the TEA Party, made up of the Skinny Cats, who have caught on to the evils of “oppressive government” that the Founders warned about.


9 posted on 01/23/2014 4:34:25 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: KC_Conspirator; All

“And in another sign of better coordination between congressional Democrats and Obama’s team, Organizing for Action, a grassroots action group created to support the president’s agenda, has helped coordinate events around the country this week to pressure GOP lawmakers to support extended unemployment benefits.”

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These groups are coalescing, gearing up for Hillary’s run.

Organizing for Action - Jim Messina w/ contracts with the DNC

Priorities USA Action - John Podesta/Paul Begala

Ready for Hillary Super PAC - Paul Begala, Craig Smith, Harold Icke, Tracy Sefl

Media Matters/Correct the Record - David Brock, Burns Strider

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/11/jim-messina-john-podesta-priorities-usa-99849.html


10 posted on 01/23/2014 4:42:16 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
RE :”“Wealthy Tea Party leaders have convinced Tea Party rank and file and many other Americans that anti-government ideology is the answer to their problems — but many Tea Partiers and sympathizers support government programs — Democrats must exploit the difference,” Schumer’s office said in a statement announcing the speech”

There is a problem with your narrative Chuckie.

Its the ‘wealthy’ GOPe who wants to work with you and the Dems, like on amnesty, and making Obamacare work.

11 posted on 01/23/2014 4:42:23 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: KC_Conspirator

Proof of the need for term limits


12 posted on 01/23/2014 4:42:26 AM PST by ozdragon
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed"

From page one of The United States Statutes at Large, paragraph two, the permanent laws of the United States of America.

I have heard people say "the Declaration isn't law"... it's not my fault they don't realize it has been passed by Congress multiple times.
Not sure, but I think the last time was 2002...
13 posted on 01/23/2014 4:44:32 AM PST by djf (OK. Well, now, lemme try to make this clear: If you LIKE your lasagna, you can KEEP your lasagna!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Sen. Charles Schumer (N.Y.), the Senate Democrats’ political guru, has a plan to poison the Tea Party by driving a wedge between its rich funders and its blue-collar rank and file... in the address at the Center for American Progress...

Look where he's speaking this "address to conservatives."

It's not for conservatives, it's for fundraising. But the dopes will for it. Chuckie knows how to squeeze that lemon.

14 posted on 01/23/2014 4:45:10 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Cliff’s Notes of Schumer’s rant:

“Communism good. Freedom bad.”


15 posted on 01/23/2014 4:45:56 AM PST by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Yeah, what Democrat pollsters and Chuck Schumer "think" and "believe" will surely resonate with the Tea Party voters.

The whole piece is just another Dem fever dream.

16 posted on 01/23/2014 4:47:43 AM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Dems continual mention of the Koch brothers gets old in the face of the many rich liberals who support socialists like Schumer and his ilk. Obamacare is getting worse by the day and people are starting to shun Obama and his lefties. Good luck Schumer. You have big problems to deal with. Your fantasy world is falling apart.


17 posted on 01/23/2014 4:47:54 AM PST by From The Deer Stand
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To: cdcdawg

I seriously doubt that there’s all that much support for raising the minimum wage among Tea Partiers. Are the Dims twisting their polling results or just outright lying? That’s the only question in my mind.


18 posted on 01/23/2014 4:57:41 AM PST by Bob
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Hey Schmuckie....what right do you have to quash a faction of Americans who desire representation that reflects their core values and beliefs? Let all comers bring forward their platform and let the people decide. It really pi$$e$ me off they way the DemonRATS spend a majority of their time structuring the opposition party (between bouts of destroying the Country). It equally pi$$e$ me off the way the GOPe stands there with their thumbs up their keesters, whistling and staring at the ceiling while it’s going on. Stay in your own sandbox, Schmuckie.


19 posted on 01/23/2014 5:03:30 AM PST by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: KC_Conspirator

He sets a false premise in the beginning , big money donors vs rank and file

That’s where I stop reading and scroll. It is such a time stealing long winded propaganda piece that just the time it takes to scroll becomes too much

What does Schumer care? His territory is New York. It should be, anyway. Is he worried about losing chairmanships?


20 posted on 01/23/2014 5:04:58 AM PST by stanne
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
the libs have so bought into the demon Koch Bros. meme that they really don't understand what the Tea Party is.

I contend that if the Koch Bros. went away tomorrow the Tea Party would not be changed one whit.

Also, I must say that schumer is the single most despicable slimy piece of excrement evacuated by NYC into the public domain since the self-exposed implosion of boy weiner.

21 posted on 01/23/2014 5:08:15 AM PST by Pietro
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To: cdcdawg

And...support for MW is support for increased unemployment.


22 posted on 01/23/2014 5:13:07 AM PST by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

2% of the time FEDERAL government does good... 98% of the time it destroys everything it touches.


23 posted on 01/23/2014 5:22:31 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: cdcdawg

Support for raising the minimum wage is grounds for revocation of membership in the TEA Party. TAXED ENOUGH ALREADY!


24 posted on 01/23/2014 5:24:05 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: All
Schumer says government can be a "force for good"? Yeah, good.....for himself.

THESE ARE CHUCKIE'S CONSTITUENTS---According to a NYC US Atty, 25 current and former Russian diplomats and 24 of their spouses allegedly participated in a scheme to illegally obtain Medicaid benefits by underreporting their income or falsely claiming that their children were US citizens. For nearly a decade, they milked the system of $1.5 million in benefits. The staff of Russian diplomatic offices in the US allegedly supplied false documentation to officials to bilk Medicaid.

The bilk was pulled off smoothly for decades.....and may have had official help----for a price. L/E needs to determine if Sen Schumer benefited from this fraud----and determine the ways he may have facilitated fraud.

Are Schumer's constituents hiding large amounts of assets from the courts adjudicating the Medicaid fraud?

<>>< Did Schumer use tax-paid offices to help facilitate felonies?

<><> Were tax dollars allocated to Schumer's constituents, collected under several identities?

<><> Were hefty bundles of tax dollars wired offshore?

<><> Many of the diplos skipped town when the heat was on. Did they stiff US banks for fraudulent sub-prime mtges (which we taxpayers have to bailout).

How many ways are Schumer's constituents riding the US gravy train---this would be very easy to find out. Are they receiving:

UI, SSI, Workmen's Comp,

TANF (temporary assistance to needy families),

WICS (food assistance),

subsidized Section 8 shelter,

ObamaPhone subsidies,

Utility Assistance subsidies,

$5000 a year EITC checks per identity,

hefty monthly "asylum" checks from SS ....

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<><> Did any of these diplos give Schumer campaign contributions?

<><>Did they donate to Schumer using their own names ---or the names of others?

<><> Did any of these people illegally vote for Schumer?

<><> Did Schumer use his tax-paid Senate offices to aid abet felonies?

<><> Do any of these diplos receive EITC refunds?

<><> Did Chuckie use his govt offices and US govt resources to setup other freebies for these criminals?

<><> Did they receive welfare, food stamps, SSI, free medical care, Section 8 housing, UI, Workmen's comp under several identities?

<><> Did they falsify US govt documents to unlawfully receive, monthly SS checks, claiming "asylum?"

<><> Does he have a sub-prime mortgage obtainedby falsifying bank documents?

<><> Did they make false claims on IRS forms in order to get EITC refunds?

<><> Do they have a legal driver's license?

<><> Do they have valid passports?

<><> How many times did they wire-transfer money back to their homelan--where they apparently fled when the heat was on?

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Taxpayers are urged to notify L/E.
FBI TIPS PAGE https://tips.fbi.gov

SUGGESTED LETTER: Collusion, conspiracy, and bribery
IN RE: financial irregularities
REFERENCE: govt fraud, falsified documents, wire transfers, accounting fraud, etc.

NARRATIVE Taxpayers demand to know the scope and dimension of multiple conspiracies by government insiders to collude in sub rosa deals to personally profit. Could be prosecuted under the Bank Secrecy ACT, RICO, and the Hobbs Act.

OF INTEREST TO LAW ENFORCEMENT--- Based on Sen Schumer's statements (and Senate vote for amnesty), Schumer approves the use of stolen SS numbers and multiple identities to defraud. The FBI should interrogate individuals for evidence of multiple schemes to falsify documents for additional insider schemes. The FBI should investigate any and all official documents submitted by Schumer's constituents.

Crimes might include---conspiracy. collusion, falsifying official documents (a felony), money laundering, tax evasion, extorting taxpayers, theft of govt monies, misuse of public office and government positions.

25 posted on 01/23/2014 5:24:54 AM PST by Liz
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To: ThunderSleeps

Really it only can be a “force for good” when it restricts its operations to what the founders determined were its purview.

Anything beyond that starts to distort the interactions of people in detrimental ways.

Shumer is just another arrogant liberal who thinks “the right people in power” can make everything better. And, of course, he’s one of “the right people”.


26 posted on 01/23/2014 5:26:15 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Support for the minimum wage shows an intellectual laziness that disqualifies membership in the Tea Party.


27 posted on 01/23/2014 5:28:23 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and fearful master."

George Washington

28 posted on 01/23/2014 5:34:08 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

During Bush v Gore I was holding a sign to traffic by LA’s Federal building that said, “DUTY HONOR COUNTRY”. I’ll never forget one particular brassy woman hollering form her car, “Who’s paying you?”

“Paying us?” I thought. “Paying us?”

I’m still shocked by it.


29 posted on 01/23/2014 5:40:49 AM PST by onedoug
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To: MrB

You’re right - government’s main “goodness” is when it gets the h**l out of the way and leaves us alone. I realized after rereading my post I forgot the sarcasm tag/emoticon after the “Yeah, sure” ... Chalk that up to a desperate need of some caffeine this AM.


30 posted on 01/23/2014 5:41:53 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: txrefugee
Government has been very, very good to Schumer and the other multi-millionaires that claim to be “public servants.”

Schmuckie has never worked in the private sector. Straight out of Harvard Law and into the public sector and has been there ever since (and is probably a multi-millionaire public servant by now). Maybe government can be a force for good (I sincerely doubt it, and The Framers did too), but I know it definitely cannot with smarmy self-serving self-righteous self-entitled power-mad know-it-alls like Chuck Schumer at the helm. And the NSA can forward this message to him!

31 posted on 01/23/2014 6:14:30 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The same people who voted for Schumer voted for DeBlasio.


32 posted on 01/23/2014 6:18:52 AM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Schmuck is delusional (As usual)

As far as I can tell there are no “rich funders” of the Tea Party movement. Who the bleep would they fund anyway? There is no centralized Tea Party structure

(off topic but important to me at the moment. I get fundraising calls from TEA Party Express, TEA Party Patriots and I think one more organization that uses TEA Party in it’s name. Is there a thread that discusses which of these organizations are on the level and which are worthy of our support?)

Government is a force for good (as a previous poster said) only when it does what it is Authorized to do and nothing else. Over all, in this country today, government has become a nightmare and an enemy of all that is good.


33 posted on 01/23/2014 6:21:18 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: MrB

Indeed.


34 posted on 01/23/2014 6:24:32 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“Schumer, one of the Democrats’ most influential strategists, will argue in a major speech on Thursday that super-wealthy Tea Party donors have hijacked the grassroots movement that grew out of the economic anxiety of the 2008 financial collapse to suit their pro-big business agenda.”

That implies that at least 1 major Democrat acknowledges that the Tea Party was/is a grass-roots organization. A grudging acknowledgment. But there it is.


35 posted on 01/23/2014 6:48:58 AM PST by Tallguy
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To: cdcdawg

Nonsense.

The Tea Party does not support raising the minimum wage.

That is total, complete nonsense.

There is a huge conflict in the Tea Party presently, over American jobs. Some want to send American jobs elsewhere, to fight American unions.

Others thing that has gone on long enough, and now other issues have grown enough, that we now need to fight to bring back American jobs.

That conflict is real, growing, and very significant. Hugely significant.

On the other hand, nobody cares about the minimum wage.

Nobody.


36 posted on 01/23/2014 6:53:55 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ( http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: onedoug
“Paying us?” I thought. “Paying us?”

Amazing.

37 posted on 01/23/2014 7:13:04 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Schumer is poison the the US.


38 posted on 01/23/2014 11:15:19 AM PST by DPMD
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