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Boom! Allen West makes the case Obama intentionally trying to overload the welfare system
therightscoop.com ^ | 1/22/14

Posted on 01/23/2014 9:26:13 AM PST by cotton1706

Talking with Greta tonight, Allen West made the case by looking at the dependency trends in our economy of why he believes Obama is intentionally trying to overload the welfare system, just as Cloward and Piven suggested.

Watch:

Well, I think that we have to stop saying that the president’s economic policies are failing and we start looking at really what the trend is. We’re seeing an incredible growth of the welfare nanny state, We’re seeing the poverty roles explode. We’re seeing the food stamp roles explode. We’re seeing more dependency on the government largess and programs. Look at what just happened kicking part-time workers off of their health care insurance plans. We’re seeing a desperation and a despondency out there that’s being created by this administration.

And it caused me to go back and read about the Cloward/Piven strategy of Richard Cloward and Francis Fox Piven who were Columbia University professors. (And it just so happened that the president went to Columbia.)

They talked about overloading the welfare system to a point where it would collapse, you would cause such chaos and then you would have to move from a welfare system to almost a national income system. And when you think about this 11th extension of unemployment benefits, it’s almost like the federal government’s trying to pay people not to get out there and participate in the job market.

[Food stamps going up] is a sign of failure, but is it intentional failure? You think about this. When you have a federal government that’s using taxpayer dollars to advertise for people to go on food stamps, not just here in the United States of America, but they were also doing it south of the border in Mexico.

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And the republican party of Florida INTENTIONALLY redistricted this man out of office! Because he was a danger to the establishment and their plans.
1 posted on 01/23/2014 9:26:13 AM PST by cotton1706
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To: cotton1706

Fox-Piven plan to bring about collapse.


2 posted on 01/23/2014 9:28:10 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cotton1706

Wow, the more I see of and hear from Allen West, the more I like him! He really GETS IT!!


3 posted on 01/23/2014 9:28:24 AM PST by House Atreides
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To: cotton1706; All
yup, the Cloward/Piven thesis @ work.

4 posted on 01/23/2014 9:28:54 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi)
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To: cotton1706

Glenn Beck said this years ago, and everyone called him paranoid, crazy. Get your head out of your azz America!


5 posted on 01/23/2014 9:32:42 AM PST by RobertoinAL
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To: cotton1706

and the liberals support him, but it’s not going to do them any good when the place goes down the drain. Idiots.


6 posted on 01/23/2014 9:33:13 AM PST by Beowulf9
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To: skinkinthegrass

Get ‘em all of the “take” as quick as he can. He needs to keep them dependent on the gubmint and on the reservation or plantation or where ever he can to control them.

By cutting the welfare, he only opens the door for those who take all the “Free S&it” to turn on him. To odumbo, the more on the take, the merrier.

Who’s gonna pull the wagon when everyone is IN the wagon?


7 posted on 01/23/2014 9:33:58 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: cotton1706

Bingo


8 posted on 01/23/2014 9:35:00 AM PST by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: cotton1706

Republicans have only delayed catastrophe.

Can’t think of anything, but for the endless rhetoric, that has stopped anything and certainly nothing is even close to being reversed.

Barking Boehner and Canine Cantor have wet on a few fence posts, but have been utterly toothless.


9 posted on 01/23/2014 9:35:18 AM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: cotton1706

If they really wiped out poverty, how would democrats get elected?

I mean do the republicans really need someone to explain this to them?

The democrats want as many alienated minorities in poverty as possible, that IS their election base.


10 posted on 01/23/2014 9:36:43 AM PST by Williams (No Obama)
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To: cripplecreek

The Cloward–Piven strategy....political activists Richard Cloward and Frances Fox Piven


11 posted on 01/23/2014 9:37:17 AM PST by Red Badger (Proud member of the Zeta Omicron Tau Fraternity since 2004...................)
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To: cripplecreek

Yup, exactly what BO is doing the healthcare system as well with Obamacare... destroy the system beyond repair, never to be rebuilt, and only replaced with socialized medicine.


12 posted on 01/23/2014 9:37:46 AM PST by Dr. Pritchett
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To: cotton1706

Yep. Thing is, it’s not just Obama. And it’s not just the democrats.


13 posted on 01/23/2014 9:39:10 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: cotton1706

So good he inspires taglines.


14 posted on 01/23/2014 9:39:51 AM PST by bramps (Go West America!)
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To: Williams

If they really wiped out poverty, how would democrats get elected?
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How true is that!


15 posted on 01/23/2014 9:41:29 AM PST by bramps (Go West America!)
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To: Williams
If they really wiped out poverty, how would democrats get elected?

I've made this case to many democrat voters. What would the democrats run on if our economy was growing at 6%, unemployment (real unemployment) was down around 5%, and real inflation was only around 2%? The answer is, they would erroneously demonize the national success as "jobless recovery" or "low wage job creation" or "on the backs of the poor and minorities". We know, because it's in the history books.

They only succeed for two reasons. 1) Low info voters don't care on way or another, especially when things are good. 2) The media feeds the LIVs the propaganda dished out by the democrat party.

Only the states can stop this with constitutional amendments now.

16 posted on 01/23/2014 9:43:17 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (My whimsical litany of satyric prose and avarice pontification of wisdom demonstrates my concinnity.)
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To: cotton1706
McCain said we have nothing to fear from an Obama presidency. What an absolute ass.

This president is attacking me personally. He's attacking me, my family and my standard of living as no one ever has. This POS, who has never created or even held a real job in his life, is purposely taking away the advantages my wife and I have worked for years to attain.

Two more years of this marxist jerk and he will have succeeded. Provided the gutless GOP continue to acquiesce.

17 posted on 01/23/2014 9:45:38 AM PST by skeeter
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18 posted on 01/23/2014 9:52:54 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: House Atreides

The same Allen West who voted in favor of the indefinite detention without trial of American citizens (NDAA 2011)?

The same Allen West who voted in favor of redistribution of wealth to the Black Caucus and their constituents (the Pigford USDA vote)?

The same Allen West who publicly stated on Facebook he wants “Justice for Trayvon©”?

The same Allen West who did such a pathetic job on contesting the fraudulent election that it cost him his seat?

The same Allen West who was shown The Cold Case Posse’s evidence on the forged Obama birth certificate, the false SS #, and the phony Selective Service Registration, said he agreed with the evidence 100%, he thinks the documents are forged, BUUUUT ....he said he would not publicly endorse the findings “...because he wanted a future in politics”?

THAT Allen West?

Trayvon© Copyright 2012 by Sybrina Fulton, all rights reserved.


19 posted on 01/23/2014 9:53:10 AM PST by Old Sarge (TINVOWOOT: There Is No Voting Our Way Out Of This)
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To: Progov; All
"Who’s gonna pull the wagon
when everyone is IN the wagon?"
what wagon? ..think country; Weihmar Republic..
Pre-NAZI Germany or Post Peron Argentina..

wheelbarrows of $$$$ for a few
potatoes / loaves of bread.

20 posted on 01/23/2014 9:54:12 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi)
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To: cotton1706

:: the Cloward/Piven strategy of Richard Cloward and Francis Fox Piven who were Columbia University professors. ::

And, interestingly enough, FF Piven was on the faculty at Chicago when Obamugabe was there.


21 posted on 01/23/2014 9:54:26 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym defines the science.)
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To: Williams

22 posted on 01/23/2014 9:57:08 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cotton1706

Anyone who has been paying attention has known that this was the C-P plan years ago. We keep talking as if Obama is a fool and a failure, when he is actually very successful at accomplishing what he said that he’d do: fundamentally transform America.

This plan has been in operation for decades, with the government making it easy and profitable to ship jobs out of the USA. Even if everyone came to their senses and abolished the Democrat party today, the damage is so bad that we might have no choice but to move forward anyway.

The only silver lining is this. People with a work ethic and skills are valuable to any economy, capitalist or socialist. People with no work ethic or skills can be fed and maintained in a prosperous economy, but under the communism they want, they will be deemed “useless eaters” and dealt with in ways that only communist/fascist regimes can accomplish.

The people who have been kept lazy and stupid by the elitist Progressives won’t be necessaary once their votes are no longer required. If you want to survive communism, you better get a skill that does not require a prosperous capitalist economy. And you better get it fast.


23 posted on 01/23/2014 9:59:39 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: cotton1706

most of America is allowing this US gov thugacracy to put its heal on the literal throats of every American. Hard if not impossible to fight back once in that position. George H. Bush and his One World cronies are winning!!


24 posted on 01/23/2014 10:01:14 AM PST by drypowder
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To: All
Nothing new under the sun - 1934:

Chicago Tribune 1934 Cartoon photo chitrib34.jpg
25 posted on 01/23/2014 10:07:20 AM PST by Squidpup ("Fight the Good Fight of Faith")
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To: cotton1706
"Richard Cloward and Francis Fox Piven who were Columbia University professors. (And it just so happened that the president went to Columbia.)"

What difference does it make? I doubt that Obama's allegiance to Columbia University has anything to do with him using this strategy. More notable is the fact that Cloward-Piven’s early promoters cited radical organizer Saul Alinsky as their inspiration. “Make the enemy live up to their own book of rules,” Alinsky wrote in his 1989 book Rules for Radicals. Obama spent his entire youth taking classes and later teaching workshops on Alinsky’s methods. He worked hard to follow Alinsky’s rule of “blending in”. It was Alinsky who taught that you can say what you have to say to get over the hump, but once you’re over the hump, you do whatever you want to do. In other words, it’s okay to present yourself as something moderate, even centrist, for the purposes of securing power. Once you’ve secured that power it is perfectly acceptable to revert to who (and what) you really are. Read the rest of this Patriot Update article here: http://patriotupdate.com/articles/proof-that-obama-is-linked-to-radical-alinsky/#fQoGdOc3xudSWOzK.99

26 posted on 01/23/2014 10:07:38 AM PST by fivecatsandadog
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To: Squidpup

That’s good bump.


27 posted on 01/23/2014 10:11:20 AM PST by spankalib ("I freed a thousand slaves. I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves.")
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To: cotton1706

Saul David Alinsky (January 30, 1909 - June 12, 1972) was an American community organizer and writer. He is generally considered to be the founder of modern community organizing. He authored the book, “Rules for Radicals”.

In his book, he details the eight 8 levels of control that must be obtained in order to create a social state.

The first is the most important.

1) Healthcare: Control healthcare and you control the people.

2) Poverty: Increase the Poverty level as high as possible. Poor people are easier to control, and will not fight back as long as you are providing everything they require to live.

3) Debt: Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. In this way, taxes must increase, and this will produce more poverty.

4) Gun Control: Remove the ability for citizens to defend themselves from the Government. In that way you are able to create a police state.

5) Welfare: Take control of every aspect of their lives (Food, Housing, and Income).

6) Education: Take control of what children read and to what they are taught in school.

7) Religion: Remove the belief in the God from the Government and schools.

8) Class Warfare: Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. This will cause more discontent, and it will be easier to tax the wealthy with the support of the poor.

Does any of this sound familiar?

The Obama presidency was not an accident. It was carefully planned.


28 posted on 01/23/2014 10:14:02 AM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: fivecatsandadog
Thank you, for the post & the link. ;-)

29 posted on 01/23/2014 10:14:48 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi)
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To: Old Sarge

I’ll take Allen West over 0bama and ANY other leftist!!!


30 posted on 01/23/2014 10:20:13 AM PST by jda ("Righteousness exalts a nation . . .")
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To: Old Sarge
West's failure to confront fraud in his latest election lost transferred him to my files under "Politically Correct Weinie."

He got frauded out of an important seat by a drunken SOB, and of course a little gerrymander helped. However, IMNVHO, West ran a lousy campaign and ran away from the fight on fraud.

The poor boy cannot decide whether or not to be an establishment RINO or a true conservative. Personally he believes in conservatism .... BUUUUUT he still wants the RINO RNC money and the Rove-GOP back-up.

As far as anyone even remotely in authority doing anything about Reggie's boyfriend's obvious illegitimacy in office? Fuggedaboutit.

We are not going to 'officially' learn anything about Obama until after 2016, if then. He might even pop out of the closet.

31 posted on 01/23/2014 10:29:55 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (This GOP is dead. What do we do now?)
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To: elpadre

So the “powers-that-be”, from both sides of the fence, are standing around with their thumbs up their butts and doing NOTHING to stop this scumbag, pukebucket, fraudster, effing treasonous, communist crook. And the rest of us - what are WE doing about it? NOTHING.

“There is considerable irony involved when a Russian warns Americans against what is taking place before their eyes as President Obama seeks to transform and ultimately acquire dictatorial powers by a series of steps that are both bold and obvious.

In April, Stanislav Mishin’s post on his blog, Mat Rodina, was published in Pravda. The title was “American capitalism gone with a whimper.”

Having lived under Communist rule in the former Soviet Russia, Mishin and his fellow Russians were literally freed by the fall of that regime that began with the overthrow of the Czar in 1917 by the Bolsheviks. What followed was an experiment in Communism that killed millions of Russians as a succession of dictators, starting with Lenin, sought to impose an economic and political system that simply does not work.

Mishin enumerated the ways the path to the present effort to destroy capitalism and our political system has been laid in America.

“First, the population was dumbed down through a politicized and substandard education system based on pop culture, rather than the classics.” There are few that would argue that the American education system is not controlled by the National Education Association, a union, and the American Federation of Teachers, a union. Both have long supported the Democrat Party. Virtually every way one can measure the system reveals its failure to educate the millions passing through government schools.

“Then their faith in God was destroyed, until their churches, all tens of thousands of different ‘branches and denominations’ were for the most part little more than Sunday circuses…” America is a “religious” nation if one looks at the survey numbers of those who say they believe in a supreme being. This, however, is not reflected in the breakdown of moral values as seen in the spread of pornography, the use of illegal drugs, the divorce rate, and the touchstone issue of abortion in America. Our popular culture is drenched in sex and violence.

“The final collapse has come with the election of Barack Obama,” says Mishin. I would argue that the threat Obama poses to the U.S. Constitution and to our economy is indisputable. “His spending and money printing has been (a) record setting,” all pointing to an America that “will resemble the Wiemar Republic and at worst Zimbabwe.” The former preceded the Nazi takeover of Germany in the 1930s and the latter’s money is worthless.”(http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/14278)

We’ve got a snowball’s chance in hell of beating this now, peaceably, that is. Did you say you want a revolution?


32 posted on 01/23/2014 10:32:04 AM PST by fivecatsandadog
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To: Old Sarge; jda

jda, do you have any idea what NDAA is? It gives Obama absolute power.


33 posted on 01/23/2014 10:33:01 AM PST by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: cotton1706

bkmk


34 posted on 01/23/2014 10:39:22 AM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: jda

Jda, I know your frustration. But haven’t we always heard “Vote for the GOP - we’re not as bad as the other guy”?

When have we last had a choice of voting FOR someone, instead of voting AGAINST the other guy all the time?

West has not reached for the brass ring; he reached for the golden parachute.


35 posted on 01/23/2014 11:03:54 AM PST by Old Sarge (TINVOWOOT: There Is No Voting Our Way Out Of This)
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To: skeeter

“Attacking me personally”.

Yep, me too. Eric Holder specifically targeted the financial sector that my previous employer serviced, putting my employer flat out of business.

And it was for “disparate impact” reasons.


36 posted on 01/23/2014 11:07:23 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: cotton1706

The question I always have is why are people like Pelosi and Reid and Biden and McCain and McConnell and Boehner going along with this? Do they not see what kind of life they’re grandchildren will have?


37 posted on 01/23/2014 11:33:59 AM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: Dr. Pritchett

“Yup, exactly what BO is doing the healthcare system as well with Obamacare... destroy the system beyond repair, never to be rebuilt, and only replaced with socialized medicine.”

This fits in perfectly with Obama’s latest remarks in an interview in which he said that his roll in history would be as the president who got certain things started and rolling in a new direction, but didn’t complete the process during his term. In other words, he started the downfall of the US, and its conversion into a Marxist state, with limited international power.


38 posted on 01/23/2014 11:37:10 AM PST by Avid Coug
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To: cotton1706

Interesting situation with a depleted manufacturing base and so many professionals dependent on recirculating government debt for incomes—interesting, especially with the default in process. Too bad that the real producers—outlawed by regulations against new, small demestic manufacturing starts—have “gone Galt.” So two socialist factions continue to go at each other, scrapping in politics over the remaining pile of debt.


39 posted on 01/23/2014 11:40:17 AM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: VerySadAmerican
The question I always have is why are people like Pelosi and Reid and Biden and McCain and McConnell and Boehner going along with this? Do they not see what kind of life they’re grandchildren will have?

Answer: they are part of the nomenklatura. And as such, their grandchildren will be just fine.

Unless ...

40 posted on 01/23/2014 11:56:52 AM PST by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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To: Old Sarge

I’m ready to vote FOR a Conservative, instead of against a liberal / progressive / leftist. But until we Conservatives can get our act together and put up a legitimate Conservative, I’ll continue to vote AGAINST the greater of two evils. If I hadn’t voted AGAINST 0bama, he would think that he was given an even greater mandate and things would be even worse!!!


41 posted on 01/23/2014 12:26:09 PM PST by jda ("Righteousness exalts a nation . . .")
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To: cotton1706

Glad to see Allen West has come to the party. Its time for even the conservatives to frankly admit that Obama is deliberately destroying our economy. Three more years of this and who knows what will be left.


42 posted on 01/23/2014 12:44:48 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Williams
I mean do the republicans really need someone to explain this to them?

Imho, most of 'em are pleased as punch to accept castration in exchange for perks.

>75% of 'em put the 'eunuch' in GOPe and have no more love for our Constitution than they have for you or me.

They're as much the enemy of our erstwhile liberty as the most rabid dhimmicrat.

43 posted on 01/23/2014 1:43:36 PM PST by tomkat
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To: fivecatsandadog
Precisely.

In a sane society, Alinsky & Cloward & Piven et al would have been hung by their neighbors the moment they began molesting the mush/minds of their children.

44 posted on 01/23/2014 1:50:55 PM PST by tomkat
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Did West say what the goal was beyond the crashing of the system?

Leftists need to be flat out accused of what they intend to do to us.


45 posted on 01/23/2014 1:52:16 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

Recommended reading:

See Post #28 re “Rules for Radicals”; in his book, Alinsky details the eight 8 levels of control that must be obtained in order to create a social state.
Also, valuable reading: Communist Manifesto - 10 Planks (http://www.libertyzone.com/Communist-Manifesto-Planks.html)

Combine the above situation with Obama’s loyalty and sympathizing with Muslims (they’re ALL radical - there is no such thing as a moderate or peaceful Muslim. Google Robert Spencer and David Horowitz), and we are in DEEP Shiat-sa. If the crap doesn’t hit the fan (WW3, Armageddon, Gog/Magog, need I say more?) before the end of Obama’s second term, I will dip my keyboard in Grey Poupon and eat it.


46 posted on 01/23/2014 4:19:22 PM PST by fivecatsandadog
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To: cripplecreek
Piven plan to bring about collapse.

7th grade arithmetic is all that is needed to show that the collapse cannot be avoided, only delayed. Turn the tables on them. If the clown in the white house wants to run up a $1 trillion deficit, step up, call him a puss and throw $3 trillion on the table. Crash it. Crash it NOW! Crash it in such a horrendous way that they can't reshape things to their liking. Since simple math says this will end, you have to ask yourself if you are going to be in better shape physically to rebuild ten days from now or ten years from now? I don't know about you, but I'd rather start rebuilding now while I'm in my 40's, not my 50's or 60's.

47 posted on 01/23/2014 4:28:30 PM PST by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: elpadre

Rules for radicals bump


48 posted on 01/23/2014 6:19:51 PM PST by Luigi Vasellini (End the political class.......TERM LIMITS NOW!!!!!!!!!!)
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