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Richard Sherman: ‘I’m Really Disappointed In Being Called A Thug’
CBS News New York ^ | January 23, 2014 8:37 AM | CBSNewYork/AP

Posted on 01/23/2014 11:20:30 AM PST by tom h

RENTON, Wash. (CBSNewYork/AP) — Richard Sherman wondered if he came to the NFL 20 years too late.

The Seattle Seahawks’ All-Pro cornerback wondered if his swagger might have fit better a few decades earlier when that confidence and an unfiltered tongue was perhaps more accepted.

“I studied the old school game more than I studied the new school game, and I play it that way. It rubs a lot of people the wrong way,” Sherman said Wednesday. “Giving a true speech after a game, a true passionate speech is old school football. Playing press corner and sitting up there every play is old school football. I guess maybe I just haven’t adjusted to the times.”

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To: tom h

Thugs don’t have an MBA from Stanford.


2 posted on 01/23/2014 11:22:36 AM PST by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: tom h

Whatever. Everyone needs to move on. He apologized so leave it at that. At least he didn’t drop a bunch of F bombs.


3 posted on 01/23/2014 11:26:09 AM PST by dowcaet
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To: tom h
“Giving a true speech after a game, a true passionate speech is old school football.

While he may be intellectually sharp, he's still classless and arrogant. Sunday wasn't the first time he's mouthed off.

4 posted on 01/23/2014 11:27:44 AM PST by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: tom h
He came across as the anti-Walter Payton.

The choking sign he gave to the receiver cost his team ten yards. It would have been great if Seattle had been still behind and that yardage cost them the chance to catch up instead of being meaningless in the last few seconds of the game.

As for the post-game interview, it didn't come across as "thug" as "crazy" like when you ask someone how he's doing and he says "The tri-lateral commission wants you to think that weasels are eating my brain - but I know that they are actually ferrets." Back away slowly and try not to make eye contact.

5 posted on 01/23/2014 11:27:54 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Republican amnesty supporters don't care whether their own homes are called mansions or haciendas.)
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To: tom h

Trash talking has always been a part of sports and war. It’s just guys being guys. If the public can’t handle it then that’s their problem, not Sherman’s.


6 posted on 01/23/2014 11:28:13 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: tom h

Richard Sherman is a warrior, high on adrenaline, violence and victory.

He acted like it.

So what?

Champions and warriors are not everybody.

Champions, warriors and MBA’s from Stanford are pretty unusual people. Rare people. They don’t think or act like everybody.

I am fine with that. Look forward to seeing Mr. Sherman on ESPN when his NFL career is over.


7 posted on 01/23/2014 11:29:16 AM PST by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept?)
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To: AppyPappy

His only mistake was accepting an interview at that moment. He was still in ‘warrior’ game mode. He’s a hell of a player and a sharp guy. He is still a football player and relies on getting angry to perform at the high level needed to do his job.


8 posted on 01/23/2014 11:29:34 AM PST by ilgipper (Obama is proving that very bad ideas can be wrapped up in pretty words)
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To: tom h

Richard “Dick” Sherman did not display good sportsmanship, either in his interview immediately after the game or in his comments later on. Good sportsmanship is “old school,” but it is foreign to many players these days. It does not include taunting, trash-talking, hot-dogging, showboating, gyrating, or excessive celebrations.


9 posted on 01/23/2014 11:30:35 AM PST by Charles Henrickson (Old school sports fan)
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To: tom h

He’s a kid from Compton that scored 1400 on his SATs, GRADUATED from Stanford, and is the best cover corner in the NFL though he was drafted fifth.

He used the adversity of his situation to prove to everyone he could do it, though others thought he couldn’t.

If every kid in Compton could follow his lead, I’ll take several thousand thugs just like this one.

He’s welcome in my home.


10 posted on 01/23/2014 11:30:45 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: tom h

I still haven’t seen anything wrong in what he did. He called out another player by name. People seem to be reacting to the fact that he was ranting in an interview with a small woman. How is her size or position as interviewer his fault? In a way, it was refreshing to see the unbridled passion for excellent play for a change, instead of the PC, “Well, I got lucky,” or “They played well and we were fortunate.”


12 posted on 01/23/2014 11:31:27 AM PST by Ingtar (The NSA - "We're the only part of government who actually listens to the people.")
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To: tom h

Sounds like you received the typical liberal dogma from Stanford that R. Sherman avoided, who’s a loser now?


13 posted on 01/23/2014 11:31:39 AM PST by bigfootbob
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To: RinaseaofDs

When I said fifth, I meant fifth round.


14 posted on 01/23/2014 11:31:44 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: tom h
I completely disagree with virtually everything you wrote in your post accompanying this article.

Furthermore, the content of your post makes it appear to me that you did not even read the article before posting it, and I suspect the only reason you posted it is to provide a backdrop for your own vile opinions.

15 posted on 01/23/2014 11:31:48 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: tom h

This whole thing is so blown out of proportion it’s unreal. And it’s being done for one reason - to protect that idiot feminist interviewer who should never have been down there on the field in the first place, let alone asking questions of someone in such a hyper-state.

He’d been in a balls-out fight all game with the SF WR, and just made an incredible play that was chosen specifically to shame him, against all strategy and logic, just for spite - and it failed, and he nailed the superbowl for his team. Of course he was pumped! And that was the real story - not this fake feminism outrage that is clearly intended to slam football even harder to get it out of high schools.

It’s the feminization of football, right in front of everyone’s eyes. And it’s sickening how everyone is going along with it. Five minutes after this event, he gave a perfectly calm interview, because he had an opportunity to calm down. It was a “gotcha” from a lipsticked, prim and proper, pearl f*****g earringed journolist with a very nasty agenda.

Wake the hell up, America!


16 posted on 01/23/2014 11:32:50 AM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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In my opinion he showed himself to be a no class thug. Ain’t nobody gonna change my mind.


17 posted on 01/23/2014 11:34:34 AM PST by McGruff (How's that Hopey Changey Thingy workin out for ya?)
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To: AppyPappy

He’s still a part of thug culture. Like many supposedly “educated” he de-evolves into ghetto talk in the heat of the moment.


18 posted on 01/23/2014 11:36:40 AM PST by miliantnutcase
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To: dowcaet
"Whatever. Everyone needs to move on. He apologized so leave it at that. "

First, he did not apologize. Read the multiple articles. He was attempting to rationalize his behavior. Thousands of words explaining this and that, when two words would have sufficed -- "I'm sorry."

No one is stupid enough to believe that his statement, "things could have been worded better" is equivalent to an apology.

If he truly apologized for then it WOULD be over.

But now he's blaming racists for calling him a thug, instead of admitting that he DID act like a thug. He's hurt because people are saying he reverted to his inner-city, Compton roots. Well, HE DID.

If I were Sherman, I'd be gracious rather than accusatory. I'd cut my hair. And I'd take some training in how to be a gentleman over the offseason so he can truly leave the thug-bred-in-Compton roots behind and act like a Stanford gentleman.

19 posted on 01/23/2014 11:36:41 AM PST by tom h
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To: DariusBane

“...Richard Sherman is a warrior, high on adrenaline, violence and victory....”

Marcus Lutrell is a Warrior.

Sherman is a football player, playing a game.

There’s a difference.

The rest of your posting, I agree with completely.


20 posted on 01/23/2014 11:37:12 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: DariusBane

Meant to say Masters in Communication, not MBA. Hence his ESPN career upon finishing his NFL career.


21 posted on 01/23/2014 11:37:26 AM PST by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept?)
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To: Ingtar
I still haven’t seen anything wrong in what he did. He called out another player by name. People seem to be reacting to the fact that he was ranting in an interview with a small woman. How is her size or position as interviewer his fault? In a way, it was refreshing to see the unbridled passion for excellent play for a change, instead of the PC, “Well, I got lucky,” or “They played well and we were fortunate.”

I agree it was nice to see an interview that wasn't typically bland and corporate; however, Erin Andrews is not a small woman. I believe she is at least 5'10''. Go ahead. Post some pictures of her. Post a lot of pictures of her. Prove me wrong!
22 posted on 01/23/2014 11:37:26 AM PST by needmorePaine
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To: AppyPappy

So sick of this non-controversy. I saw the interview when it happened and I thought it was a good argument against interviewing players immediately after a game. These guys are jacked up on adrenaline and testosterone, things are said. I didn’t know anything about this guy before the interview, but from what I’ve seen since then he seems congenial and thoughtful. This is a media-driven thing; they make me sick. And Erin Andrews looking dazed and confused on the field was funny. pfft


23 posted on 01/23/2014 11:37:58 AM PST by mancini
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He acted without any self-control. If that is how a thug behaves, he was a thug. I doubt Manning would have been a thug if he won.


24 posted on 01/23/2014 11:38:05 AM PST by ex-snook (God is Love)
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To: All
HUMBLE IN VICTORY, GRACIOUS IN DEFEAT

Those words were painted across the wall of our fieldhouse, back when I played on a basketball team. That attitude is basic to good sportsmanship. I don't see it as much anymore among athletes. You don't call attention to yourself over your team, you don't demean an opponent, etc. Old school.

25 posted on 01/23/2014 11:38:14 AM PST by Charles Henrickson (Former basketball player)
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To: NFHale

If you have ever been around Special Forces types they operate in the same arena. What a bunch of jerks.

But I am fine with that. It is the job.

Go out on a football field and get your brains beaten in day after day. My body and my mind just couldn’t take the long term abuse.


26 posted on 01/23/2014 11:39:47 AM PST by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept?)
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To: ex-snook

Richard Sherman is not Peyton Manning. Should he be?


27 posted on 01/23/2014 11:40:56 AM PST by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept?)
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To: Ingtar

And actually they interviewed Erin after it happened, she said something to the effect that she was never scared, knew what he was talking about, and kinda felt lucky getting him to talk when he was so charged up.


28 posted on 01/23/2014 11:42:05 AM PST by djf (OK. Well, now, lemme try to make this clear: If you LIKE your lasagna, you can KEEP your lasagna!)
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To: needmorePaine

I was going by the outraged calls on ESPN radio I have heard. The prevailing theory is that it was considered wrong, where others have not been before, was that he was much bigger than she is, and that he is Black and she is White.

Bart Scott 2011 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MM9mbgswhcw

Nowhere near the hype.


29 posted on 01/23/2014 11:42:14 AM PST by Ingtar (The NSA - "We're the only part of government who actually listens to the people.")
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To: DariusBane

Nope. He doesn’t have to be Manning to not be a thug.


30 posted on 01/23/2014 11:43:05 AM PST by ex-snook (God is Love)
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To: tom h

So when I ride my HD to work and wear my chaps and leather jacket and I would walk into my office it was okay for the elderly finance gal to call me a thug regardless of the fact that I am a college graduate and professional engineer?


31 posted on 01/23/2014 11:46:52 AM PST by shotgun
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To: tom h

You’re correct. He didn’t apologize. Because he has absolutely nothing for which to apologize.


32 posted on 01/23/2014 11:46:56 AM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: tom h

I remember another football intellectual who graduated from a fine university, and later was unjustly accused of double murder, his writings were exposed and he turned out to be illiterate. I think his name was O.J. Simpson.


33 posted on 01/23/2014 11:47:42 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: ex-snook
How come no one is talking about how Crabtree slapped Sherman's helmet when Sherman extended his hand in a gesture of friendship just after the game?
34 posted on 01/23/2014 11:48:46 AM PST by Robwin
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To: ex-snook

So you know the guy? Robert Sherman I mean?

His other interviews have been very thoughtful and well spoken. They caught the man with red eyes, testosterone, endorphin and adrenaline crazed high that makes it possible for him to perform in an impossibly physicallly demanding sport.

That makes him a thug? You want him to wear a skirt, hold a little tea cup with his pinkie finger sticking out? Maybe just a hint of rouge?

Good Grief.


35 posted on 01/23/2014 11:48:51 AM PST by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept?)
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To: ScottinVA

He did it after the forty-whiner guy pushed him in the face. Sherm went over to home to congrat. him for a well played game - the guy went of on Sherm. Then that airhead reporter sticks a mic in his face right after .....


36 posted on 01/23/2014 11:50:03 AM PST by SkyDancer (Imagine a world without politicians, lawyers and federal judges.)
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To: AppyPappy
The only reason it bothers me is it seems like it’s an accepted way of calling someone the N-word nowadays. It’s like everybody else said the N-word and they said thug and they’re like, ‘that’s fine,’” Sherman said. “That’s where it kind of takes me aback. It’s kind of disappointing because they know. What is the definition of a thug, really?

Earlier in the article, he said when it comes to football, he likes the "old school game." But when it comes to dealing with the media, he's quickly learning the "new school game" of playing the race card and turning into what Larry Elder calls a victicrat.

37 posted on 01/23/2014 11:50:32 AM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: DariusBane

One correction: He’s not a “warrior”. He’s a football player.


38 posted on 01/23/2014 11:51:14 AM PST by babble-on
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To: Charles Henrickson
Sherman attempted to shake Crabtree’s hand following the interception only to get shoved in the face.

...

...on Wednesday, Showtime’s “Inside the NFL” aired previously unheard audio of the Sherman-Crabtree altercation.

“Hell of a game,” Sherman told Crabtree before getting shoved. “Hell of a game.”

Furthermore, it is being widely reported that Michael "Dick" Crabtree tried to start a fight with Sherman at a pre-season charity event.

Did Sherman behave like a perfect "gentleman" immediately following that game? No. He would have clearly shown himself to be the better man if he had simply said nothing about Crabtree at all in his interview.

But I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. I understand that there ARE limits to exactly how much crap one person can put up with from another person - and those limits differ from person to person - and excitement & adrenaline can affect those limits even within the same person.

39 posted on 01/23/2014 11:51:37 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: ilgipper
True words. Yet, yet ... when his guard was down the default mode became his thuggish, Compton roots.

I've seen lots of other players immediately after games, all charged up, but none of them did what Sherman did.

Look, we all have to fight the perceptions that we give off. Not one person who called Sherman a thug, or worse, will be changed by his excuses or attempts to blame others.

If he wants to change how fans view him, he should look in the mirror. Cut his hair. Take some classes in being a gentleman over the offseason. And next year, when he gives a postgame interview and sounds like the type of graduate his university typically produces, we will remember and he will be forgiven.

But he hasn't figured that out yet.

40 posted on 01/23/2014 11:52:25 AM PST by tom h
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To: babble-on

The analogy fits.

The Army is full of Jerks. I was one of them.

The methods and madness are very similar, as are the attitudes.


41 posted on 01/23/2014 11:53:03 AM PST by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept?)
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To: AppyPappy

On the contrary, DC is full of educated people.


42 posted on 01/23/2014 11:53:28 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: DariusBane
"They caught the man with red eyes, testosterone, endorphin and adrenaline crazed high that makes it possible for him to perform in an impossibly physicallly demanding sport."

Is every football player like that or just thugs?

43 posted on 01/23/2014 11:53:40 AM PST by ex-snook (God is Love)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
"Trash talking has always been a part of sports and war. It’s just guys being guys. If the public can’t handle it then that’s their problem, not Sherman’s."

Yea, but we fans pay the bills. And obviously Sherman does care about what we think. That's why he spent thousands of words giving us a non-apology and blaming everyone but himself.

44 posted on 01/23/2014 11:54:02 AM PST by tom h
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To: needmorePaine
You are correct.

In the video, she appears to be a maximum of 2"-3" shorter than Sherman (and he's wearing a hat).

You are also correct that many pictures of her should be posted...

;-)

45 posted on 01/23/2014 11:54:33 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: All
Apparently this thug has a history of similar beahvior.

Richard Sherman Went After Tom Brady with Trash Talk After Seattle Beat New England.

Trent Williams Mushed Richard Sherman (who was yapping again) After Seattle Beat Washington.

46 posted on 01/23/2014 11:55:03 AM PST by McGruff (How's that Hopey Changey Thingy workin out for ya?)
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To: AppyPappy
The Thugs of India Christopher S. Putnam

At its root, the word "Thuggee" means "deceivers," and this name hints at the methods employed by the cult.
Bands of Thugs traveled across the country posing as pilgrims, merchants, soldiers, or even royalty, in groups numbering anywhere from a few men to several hundred. Offering protection or company, they would befriend fellow travelers and slowly build their confidence along the road. Often the impostors would journey for days and hundreds of miles with their intended victims, patiently waiting for an opportunity to strike.
When the time was right, typically while their targets were encamped and at their most relaxed, a signal would be given—reportedly “Bring the tobacco”—and the Thugs would spring. Each member had a well-honed specialty; some distracted their quarry, some made noise or music to mask any cries, while others guarded the campsite from intruders and escapees. Thugs of the highest rank performed the actual killings.
As a prohibition against shedding blood was at the core of Thuggee belief, the murders were performed in a bloodless fashion. The usual method was strangulation with a rumal, the yellow silk handkerchief each thug wore tied around his waist; but an occasional neck-breaking or poisoning helped to add some variety. It was a matter of honor for the Thugs to let no one escape alive once they had been selected for death.-Tom

47 posted on 01/23/2014 11:56:33 AM PST by Capt. Tom
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To: ex-snook

Not every football player is like anything.

Are all people the same? Do we all have the same backgrounds?

No. Glad for that.

Many here don’t like the way he looks. That’s about it.


48 posted on 01/23/2014 11:56:50 AM PST by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept?)
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To: shotgun

Of course.

You’re clearly a biker and everyone knows bikers are nothing but thugs.

;-)


49 posted on 01/23/2014 11:57:12 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: thefactor
"You’re correct. He didn’t apologize. Because he has absolutely nothing for which to apologize."

Well, if you were correct he wouldn't be so hurt over what people are calling him. But clearly he is. He wants to portray another character, but he clearly failed.

I said it in another post. If he is so sensitive that people call him a thug, and not a Stanford gentleman, after that rant, then he should go to charm school over the offseason, and prove he isn't next year after another tough game.

People will remember and they will THEN view him as he wishes to be viewed.

50 posted on 01/23/2014 11:59:20 AM PST by tom h
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