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Judge rules Kansas sperm donor must pay child support
Fox News ^ | January 23, 2014 | Associated Press

Posted on 01/23/2014 3:42:29 PM PST by McBuff

A man who provided sperm to a lesbian couple in response to an online ad is the father of a child born to one of the women and must pay child support, a Kansas judge ruled Wednesday.

Topeka resident William Marotta had argued that he had waived his parental rights and didn’t intend to be a father. Shawnee County District Court Judge Mary Mattivi rejected that claim, saying the parties didn’t involve a licensed physician in the artificial insemination process and thus Marotta didn’t qualify as a sperm donor, The Topeka Capital-Journal reported.

‘‘In this case, quite simply, the parties failed to perform to statutory requirement of the Kansas Parentage Act in not enlisting a licensed physician at some point in the artificial insemination process, and the parties’ self-designation of (Marotta) as a sperm donor is insufficient to relieve (Marotta) of parental right and responsibilities to the child,’’ Mattivi wrote.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: familylaw; gaymarriage; lesbonaziagenda; parentalrights; prostitution; rightsofchildren
This is a very interesting case. . the first of many more that are a result of the utter confusion wrought upon Family Law as a result of the redefinition of marriage. The bottom line is that the traditional perspective and the basis of Family Law is that the child has a RIGHT to be raised and cared for by both a Father and Mother. Gay Marriage throws this fundamental right into the dust. . .and thus. . children suffer.
1 posted on 01/23/2014 3:42:30 PM PST by McBuff
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To: McBuff

I notice that this is a female judge....genetically programmed to f**k men over to provide resources to
a child. Further proof that men should never get
married or father children in the USSA. The game is
rigged and the rules completely one sided.


2 posted on 01/23/2014 3:44:59 PM PST by nvscanman
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To: McBuff

3 posted on 01/23/2014 3:45:37 PM PST by Last Dakotan
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To: McBuff
the parties didn’t involve a licensed physician in the artificial insemination process and thus Marotta didn’t qualify as a sperm donor

See what happens when you try to save a few bucks? It probably never occurred to them that lawyers had written the law to make themselves money.

The more this happens, the better. It's wrong to sell or give your child to crazy people. If men understand that they're going pay just as much as if they'd had a child with their own wife or girlfriend, maybe they'll stop doing it.

4 posted on 01/23/2014 3:46:25 PM PST by Tax-chick (Well, that went badly.)
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To: McBuff

Hey, they’re entitled. They probably even get big incomes from government employment or government-linked business to maintain their influence as bipartisan political constituents.


5 posted on 01/23/2014 3:48:05 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: McBuff

“Family law” has been anti-family law for a long time. It was turned solidly against fatherhood during the ‘80s and ‘90s. It’s a cash cow for “professionals” and just another way to prevent domestic competition (working class families) from rising. It’s much of the cause of the economic decline.


6 posted on 01/23/2014 3:52:44 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Last Dakotan

Yes you get it.

What a burn. Didn’t even get to directly deposit the merchandise.


7 posted on 01/23/2014 3:57:41 PM PST by ifinnegan
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To: nvscanman

That concieving a child results in a responsibility to provide for that child is not a problem.

Except for perverts of course.

The sexual revolution was a movement both by and for perverts, and oh how bitter they are at any intimation that the concept of personal responsibility applies to them.


8 posted on 01/23/2014 3:58:11 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: McBuff
"Shawnee County District Court Judge Mary Mattivi rejected that claim, saying the parties didn’t involve a licensed physician "

I agree. Gotta be legal with a licensed doctor. Pretty simple. If not it sets a messy precident of he said/she said paternity suits.

9 posted on 01/23/2014 3:59:50 PM PST by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: familyop
This is the interesting part:

"A filing Wednesday by the DCF argues the sperm donor contract overlooks ‘‘the well-established law in this state that a person cannot contract away his or her obligations to support their child.’’ The right for support belongs to the child, not the parents, the filing says."

Here's the problem, the redefinition of marriage has removed the term "Father" and "Mother." It is now simply "Partner 1" and "Partner 2." The redefining of marriage has removed the right of children to be raised and/or supported by a Father and Mother. It's a train wreck.

10 posted on 01/23/2014 4:05:21 PM PST by McBuff
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To: McBuff

Good!


11 posted on 01/23/2014 4:05:48 PM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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To: Tax-chick
The more this happens, the better. It's wrong to sell or give your child to crazy people. If men understand that they're going pay just as much as if they'd had a child with their own wife or girlfriend, maybe they'll stop doing it.

Agree. Why Freepers would defend men who do this is beyond me, but some will.

12 posted on 01/23/2014 4:08:11 PM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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To: McBuff
I'm sorry, but as far as I'm concerned, a father is a father and must support his children. All the details are of a lower priority to that father's obligation.

When a man spits in the face of God, he deserves no mercy.

13 posted on 01/23/2014 4:08:12 PM PST by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: McBuff

I better leave the country!


14 posted on 01/23/2014 4:10:14 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty
Why Freepers would defend men who do this is beyond me, but some will.

It appears to me that some think anything is okay, as long as there's a contract and payments are made. Sell your kids? No problem as long as they're in deliverable condition and the buyer's check doesn't bounce.

15 posted on 01/23/2014 4:10:20 PM PST by Tax-chick (Well, that went badly.)
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To: Tau Food

I agree. . .I’m pointing out how redefining marriage has confused this fundamental responsibility and has usurped the rights of children to be raised and supported by a father and mother.


16 posted on 01/23/2014 4:12:37 PM PST by McBuff
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To: McBuff
Dude should turn the tables and drag them into court and DEMAND custody on the grounds that they are an unfit couple.

But it appears he's not too bright in the first place.


17 posted on 01/23/2014 4:16:09 PM PST by ConradofMontferrat ( According to mudslimz, my handle is a HATE CRIME. And I HOPE they don't like it.)
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To: McBuff

1] The child suffers because he/she is being allowed to be raised by 2 pervs. I notice the court has zero to say about it.
2] How did this case get before the state in the first place? Did the bltches rat him out?
3]The idea that this guy owes the state some $6k is utter crap.

Run, young feller...those women wanted to be the parents...they should be responsible...not him.


18 posted on 01/23/2014 4:18:33 PM PST by Adder (No, Mr. Franklin, we could NOT keep it.)
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To: Adder
A father is a father. He must support his child. He chose to spit in the face of God by engaging in this perversion of nature.

A just result would also include castration so as to prevent this idiot from doing this again.

19 posted on 01/23/2014 4:22:21 PM PST by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: McBuff

One wonders if the intent all along was to find some poor sap to defray the cost of raising the kid, knowing they could sue for child support. Be interesting to know some more of the details of this case.


20 posted on 01/23/2014 4:23:13 PM PST by DemforBush (Come and get one in the yarbles, if you have any yarbles, you eunuch jelly thou!)
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To: McBuff

He should have gotten a lawyer and signed away parental rights. End of case.


21 posted on 01/23/2014 4:25:03 PM PST by RginTN
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To: nvscanman
The first sentence in the article: "A man who provided sperm to a lesbian couple in response to an online ad . . ."

What does this have to do with men getting married?

22 posted on 01/23/2014 4:30:10 PM PST by Dalberg-Acton
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To: nvscanman

stay zipped up and you shouldnt have a problem guys. This idea that you have a “right” to sex is a lie


23 posted on 01/23/2014 4:34:22 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: McBuff
The man was ignorant and did not heed the recommendations of a famous quote from a movie:

I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltrators, Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion, and the International Communist conspiracy to sap and impugn all of our precious bodily fluids....I do not avoid women, Mandrake, but I do deny them my essence
Base Commander Jack D. Ripper

Jack may have had a point when Lesbians were in question.

24 posted on 01/23/2014 4:39:48 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: yldstrk

This guy didn’t even have sex with another human. He just handed off the sperm. The article doesn’t say whether he was paid or just did it for the thrill.


25 posted on 01/23/2014 4:41:14 PM PST by Tax-chick (Well, that went badly.)
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To: Tax-chick

oh yeah, I am aware, I was responding to a complaint by some poster


26 posted on 01/23/2014 4:42:03 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

I understand.


27 posted on 01/23/2014 4:42:43 PM PST by Tax-chick (Well, that went badly.)
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To: Tau Food

I respectfully disagree. Yes the man is a biological father, he had no intention of raising the child or have any interest in the child. Indeed, had they gone to a physician, there would not have been an argument. He would not have been blamed as a “sperm donor”. Yet he still would have been a father.

The state should be suing mama lesbo for their money, not this poor stupid schlub.

There are too many “loose” ends in this sorry tale. And the lesbo perv’s are getting none of the scrutiny. And they are the source of the problem.

IMHO.


28 posted on 01/23/2014 4:43:50 PM PST by Adder (No, Mr. Franklin, we could NOT keep it.)
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To: McBuff

The artificial insemination industry is going to take a hit


29 posted on 01/23/2014 4:52:07 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (Amnesty And Not Ending ObamaCare Will Kill GOP In 2014)
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“How did this case get before the state in the first place?”

The lesbian couple could not financially take care of the child, and applied for state aid. As per usual, if mom can’t support the kid, the state will provide aid...and go after the father for compensation.

I’m a Kansan, so this guy doesn’t owe the state $6k, as much as he owes me and my fellow Kansans $6k for taking care of his kid. Somebody brought this kid into the world...and somebody is responsible for taking care of him. If the lesbians can’t hack it, I don’t want to be left holding the bag.

The moral of the story - never answer an ad on Craigslist, and sell your sperm to a strange lesbian couple.


30 posted on 01/23/2014 4:55:48 PM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: McBuff

so does this mean that any sperm donor is now on the hook for child support????

this ruling is insane.


31 posted on 01/23/2014 4:57:08 PM PST by ealgeone (obama, border)
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To: Adder
Yes the man is a biological father, he had no intention of raising the child or have any interest in the child.

His intentions aren't relevant. He actions and the results are.

Indeed, had they gone to a physician, there would not have been an argument. He would not have been blamed as a “sperm donor”.

I doubt that. I heard of other cases where the poor innocent sperm donor had to pay child support.

Yet he still would have been a father.

All the reason you need to hold him responsible.

The state should be suing mama lesbo for their money

If they are supporting and raising the child, then they're already doing their part, as far as the state in concerned.

not this poor stupid schlub.

Why not? He made the baby, let him accept responsibility.

And the lesbo perv’s are getting none of the scrutiny. And they are the source of the problem.

They were the beneficiaries of this problem. The idiots who donate are the source, because without them this can't happen.

32 posted on 01/23/2014 5:01:09 PM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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To: ealgeone

this ruling is no different than men who are suckered into being sperm donors from a one-night-stand,and are harassed,stalked,made ATM & a slave for 21 years!


33 posted on 01/23/2014 5:08:02 PM PST by wiseone (india,)
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To: ealgeone

so does this mean that any sperm donor is now on the hook for child support????

Here’s an update on that old TV announcement about “do you know where your kids are tonight?”...now - “Do you know where your sperm is tonight?”...just saying.


34 posted on 01/23/2014 5:48:26 PM PST by DefeatCorruption
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To: DefeatCorruption

Imagine that, people being held responsible for planting their seeds


35 posted on 01/23/2014 5:49:47 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: ealgeone

He is being held responsible for his own actions


36 posted on 01/23/2014 5:50:44 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: McBuff

Photos at link...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-court-rules-sperm-donor-william-marotta-is-legal-father-and-must-pay-child-support-9079296.html

Jennifer Schreiner and Angela Bauer, who have now separated

The state was seeking to have Mr Marotta declared the child’s father so he can be held responsible for about $6,000 in public assistance the state provided to the child’s mother, as well as future child support.

Kansas does not recognise same-sex marriages and Ms Bauer could not legally adopt the child, despite continuing to care for her after they separated. When one of them became unwell and had to seek state support, the Kansas Department for Children and Families (KDCF) demanded they reveal the name of the sperm donor, which they eventually did.

The KDFC filed the case in October 2012 seeking to have Mr Marotta declared the father of the child born in 2009.


37 posted on 01/23/2014 5:55:14 PM PST by kcvl
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Thanks for explaining how this got to court....the state seeking to go after a “deadbeat dad.”

The issues I see are:

the moral responsibility to take care the children you father.

the claim by the left that a woman's body is under her complete control and that no one should tell her what she can or can't do with her body (hey if the State can't tell her not to end a life, how can they interfere with her not using a physician to start a life?)

proof that the man did not know that a licensed physician wasn't involved in the process

Boy would I love to be a juror on that case (jury nullification)

38 posted on 01/23/2014 5:57:36 PM PST by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: McBuff
So why not have the state go after the lesbian husband? I mean if a man is cuckolded by his wife and she claims he is the father he is usually stuck even if he has DNA proof that he isn't the father. Courts in such cases often say that the need to support the child trumps the guys DNA evidence.
39 posted on 01/23/2014 5:59:53 PM PST by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: McBuff

All the more reason to stay away from queers and definitely not to get involved with them.


40 posted on 01/23/2014 6:02:22 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (It's difficult to differentiate between a hog calling contest and a Senate rollcall.)
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To: wiseone
this ruling is no different than men who are suckered into being sperm donors from a one-night-stand,and are harassed,stalked,made ATM & a slave for 21 years!

for someone with a handle like 'wiseone', i dont exactly see the wisdom in your reply. there is an easy answer, and i am thinking not too many men are 'suckered' into one night stands
41 posted on 01/23/2014 6:06:09 PM PST by wafflehouse (RE-ELECT NO ONE !)
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To: yldstrk

This idea that you have a “right” to sex is a lie


As is the “right” to vote.....


42 posted on 01/23/2014 6:39:04 PM PST by S.O.S121.500 (Had Enough Yet ?............................ Enforce the Bill of Rights............ It's the LAW !!!)
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To: McBuff
He shot an arrow in the air,
It fell to earth he knew not where.
43 posted on 01/23/2014 6:54:34 PM PST by YHAOS
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To: Robert357

Paternity fraud and this are two different topics. On paternity fraud, you and I likely agree, paternity fraud is fraud. On this, he fathered the child, let him support the child.


44 posted on 01/24/2014 3:24:51 AM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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To: Robert357

This man was on the local news last night. He made statements that he would not be in this situation if two women were allowed to sign a birth certificate in Kansas, or if gay marriage were legal in Kansas - just to give an idea where his head is at.

As to whether or not this man knew there was no physician involved - I wasn’t kidding when I said he answered a Craigslist ad. He knew it was ‘under the table’, and has never claimed otherwise.

I understand the sentiment: why does it have to have the government stamp of approval, to be an ‘official’ sperm donation. And as far as I’m concerned, he can give his sperm to whatever lesbian couple he wants to....but I don’t want to pay for it when it all falls apart.

And he knew it would probably fall apart (why else would we draft a ‘contract’). How could answering a Craigslist ad and giving your sperm to a pair of lesbians with 6 other adopted children go right?

He acted recklessly, no less recklessly than a guy who has a one night stand and gets a woman pregnant. And in both situations, I don’t think I the taxpayer should be stuck with the bill.

At least if a doctor is involved, there is a fighting chance of the doctor saying ‘no, this is crazy.’


45 posted on 01/24/2014 6:44:11 AM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

I doubt that. I heard of other cases where the poor innocent sperm donor had to pay child support.

I have heard that too but this article stated pretty much as I wrote. Had they gone to a licensed physician, he would not have been held responsible even tho he is the actual donor-father.

So its not that he was a father, its that they didn’t follow some bureaucrat’s idea of procedure.

The actions of the lesbos would have been the same and the outlay of the state would have been the same.

Only difference is now they are after this guy not because he is the father but because there was not a physician involved. And that is where I have the problem and can defend this guy. Or at least feel sorry for him.


46 posted on 01/24/2014 11:19:08 AM PST by Adder (No, Mr. Franklin, we could NOT keep it.)
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To: Adder
I have heard that too but this article stated pretty much as I wrote. Had they gone to a licensed physician, he would not have been held responsible even tho he is the actual donor-father.

That's what I read too, but I have no doubt they would have gotten him anyway. And I would be cheering.

So its not that he was a father, its that they didn’t follow some bureaucrat’s idea of procedure.

Take away his failure to follow procedure, and he's still the father.

The actions of the lesbos would have been the same and the outlay of the state would have been the same.

Granted.

Only difference is now they are after this guy not because he is the father but because there was not a physician involved.

If there was a physician involved, they would be going after him because he's the father.

And that is where I have the problem and can defend this guy. Or at least feel sorry for him.

I won't defend him or feel sorry for him. I'm happy whenever men like him pay for the consequences of their actions.

47 posted on 01/24/2014 5:49:15 PM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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To: McBuff

Indeed. It’s all about what the adults want, not the children. Sad.


48 posted on 01/26/2014 12:09:35 PM PST by ReformationFan
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