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Raiders cheerleader sues, says pay is less than $5 an hour
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 1/22/14 | Bob Egelko

Posted on 01/24/2014 4:30:02 AM PST by foreverfree

Lacy T. accused the Raiders in a lawsuit Wednesday of failing to pay the Raiderettes minimum wages for the work they do, both on the sidelines and in the community for charity. The team also sticks them with travel costs and levies "fines" that eat into their meager salary, she said.

She filed her lawsuit in Alameda County Superior Court as a proposed class action on behalf of 40 current Raiderettes and other members of the squad over the past four years. And she said she hopes other NFL cheerleaders will join the fray.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: California
KEYWORDS: cheerleading; nfl; oaklandraiders
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Wonder what the 'Niners', Broncos', and Seahawks' cheerleaders' bennies are?

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1 posted on 01/24/2014 4:30:03 AM PST by foreverfree
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To: foreverfree

Yet they went through all kinds of competition to get the job.

Dumbasses.


2 posted on 01/24/2014 4:31:24 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: foreverfree

It is a complete shame they are forced into taking these jobs...oh, wait. Never mind.


3 posted on 01/24/2014 4:34:00 AM PST by Spruce
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To: cripplecreek
Yet they went through all kinds of competition to get the job.

A rich guy was supposed to notice her and marry her by now.

That's the way it always works in the music videos...so the Raiders must be ripping her off. :)

4 posted on 01/24/2014 4:34:40 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: foreverfree
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5 posted on 01/24/2014 4:35:48 AM PST by ken5050 (This space available cheap...)
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To: cripplecreek

Most of these individuals consider this a stepping stone into some other job or personal relationship. Basically they are interns.


6 posted on 01/24/2014 4:39:41 AM PST by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: foreverfree

I think they have a point. Everyone else is getting rich, might as well let the cheerleaders have some money too. If the owners want to say the cheerleader don’t matter, then maybe they should limit the job to one year up front. That way more cheerleaders can get exposure and they won’t be making a career of it.


7 posted on 01/24/2014 4:40:09 AM PST by FR_addict
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To: Mr. Jeeves

A few years ago a teacher tried to tell me that there was no reason a good teacher shouldn’t make as much as a pro baseball player.

I told her that it was pretty unlikely but if she really wanted to get paid what she was worth she should teach in a private school or contract as a tutor to the rich and famous. Then I really yanked her chain by suggesting that maybe there was a reason she stayed in a public school.


8 posted on 01/24/2014 4:42:22 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

A few years ago a teacher tried to tell me that there was no reason a good teacher shouldn’t make as much as a pro baseball player.”

…if she can attract hundreds of thousands of people into a park for 4 hours at $50 a head week after week then sure, why not pay her the same as a pro ball player!


9 posted on 01/24/2014 4:48:39 AM PST by albie (ve`)
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To: Mouton

I suspect there is a union organizer somewhere in the background.


10 posted on 01/24/2014 4:50:23 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: foreverfree

for later


11 posted on 01/24/2014 4:52:57 AM PST by Doctor 2Brains
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To: foreverfree

This thread is useless without pictures...


12 posted on 01/24/2014 4:53:22 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: cripplecreek
This would be funny if they weren't actually wasting time in the legal system with it. Let's see, NFL cheerleaders work, train, diet, often get surgical procedures done, and compete to get these jobs. No-one forces them to try out let alone succeed and get the job. The terms of the employment contract are detailed before they sign. No-one is holding a gun to their head forcing them to stay in the job.

So I'm thinking if you don't like the terms - leave! Hey, it is not like this is a long-term career option anyway. Every single one of them knows some season, maybe next season, they'll fail to make the cut. Nor is there much room for advancement, NFL cheerleader is probably about the pinnacle of cheerleading.

When the situation is that cut and dried and understood by all parties going into an employment arrangement I fail to see how the employee has a legal leg to stand on regarding salary.

13 posted on 01/24/2014 4:53:28 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: FR_addict
...maybe they should limit the job to one year up front. That way more cheerleaders can get exposure and they won’t be making a career of it.

Substitute "politician" for cheerleader and "term" for year and you've really got something there!

14 posted on 01/24/2014 4:55:45 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: foreverfree

The NFL is owned and run by democrat appeasers. Of course they are going to treat women like cheap throw away sex objects.


16 posted on 01/24/2014 4:57:16 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: albie; cripplecreek

Just how much should we pay someone who teaches 2+2 = 5?


17 posted on 01/24/2014 4:58:40 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: ThunderSleeps

While true, it is irrelevant.

There is a law stipulating a minimum wage. The law was broken by the employer


18 posted on 01/24/2014 5:00:01 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: foreverfree
. . . failing to pay the Raiderettes minimum wages for the work they do, both on the sidelines and in the community for charity.

You think I'm gonna do charity for free??

19 posted on 01/24/2014 5:02:02 AM PST by Misterioso (All life is a purposeful struggle, and your only choice is the choice of a goal. - Ayn Rand)
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To: driftdiver

2+2 does = 5 for large values of 2


20 posted on 01/24/2014 5:04:47 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: ThunderSleeps

There are a lot of things that require a huge amount of time and effort on the promise of eventual return. In the case of a cheerleader the only eventual return is a slim chance at something bigger. (Offhand I can only think of Paula Abdul as an example)

Medical students with hopes of becoming doctors are a good example of people who put in years of very high pressure time on the hope of eventual return and its a good thing. Its how they weed out those who will likely be bad doctors.


21 posted on 01/24/2014 5:07:07 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek
Yet they went through all kinds of competition to get the job. Dumbasses.

LOL! My thoughts exactly!

22 posted on 01/24/2014 5:09:08 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: bert

Does that include “tips”?


23 posted on 01/24/2014 5:09:13 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Mouton
Basically they are interns.

No, basically they're exhibitionists who enjoy parading around in faux support of some football team. I know some Freepers must get their jollies watching them, but what's the purpose, folks? Other sports get along just fine without this Harry High School crap.

24 posted on 01/24/2014 5:13:45 AM PST by OldPossum ("It's" is the contraction of "it" and "is"; think about ITS implications.)
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To: foreverfree

I will pay $6.


25 posted on 01/24/2014 5:15:08 AM PST by Principled
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To: foreverfree

Let’s face it, their only purpose is to serve as jiggly decorations. While there are some demands on their appearance, it isn’t like they have to have some extraordinary skills that aren’t available in a thousand other applicants. The fact that they’re paid at all is a bonus.

If this suit succeeds, fire the whole bunch and select a squad of (good-looking) volunteers who will shake their groove thangs for the sheer “team spirit.”


26 posted on 01/24/2014 5:28:19 AM PST by IronJack
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To: Mouton
Basically they are interns.

Apprenticeships are bad, but internships are good, especially internships for politicians. And, oh yeah, it's evil to pay people less than the minimum wage.

27 posted on 01/24/2014 5:31:33 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: foreverfree

Income equality.

Everyone should make $5.00 an hour.


28 posted on 01/24/2014 5:39:52 AM PST by BBB333 (Q: Which is grammatically correct? Joe Biden IS or Joe Biden ARE an idiot?)
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To: bert

Does 3+3=5 for small values of 3?
I’m just trying to understand how this works. I totally do NOT understand the new math, people keep talking about things like “300% reductions”, “5000 times smaller” etc. and I have no idea what they are trying to say. Is it Greek math or Chinese math? In the mid-twentieth century on the planet Earth from whence I came those terms had no meaning.


29 posted on 01/24/2014 5:46:24 AM PST by RipSawyer (The TREE currently falling on you actually IS worse than a Bush.)
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To: cripplecreek

Minor league players only earn $1,100 a month to start.


30 posted on 01/24/2014 5:50:05 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: bert

Whether the law was actually broken depends on how one counts the hours. That is the soul of this dispute - do all of the hours count as on-clock time or not?

I suppose there may be a bit of salary versus hourly wages in the mix, as well.


31 posted on 01/24/2014 5:58:42 AM PST by MortMan (Is a delayed shower a "stay of exablution"?)
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To: RipSawyer; bert

3+3=5 only for VERY small values of 3.

(The 2+2 version is a computer science joke from eons back)


32 posted on 01/24/2014 6:00:47 AM PST by MortMan (Is a delayed shower a "stay of exablution"?)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

“Minor league players only earn $1,100 a month to start.”

That sounds way too low. Are you sure, it’s that low?


33 posted on 01/24/2014 6:01:28 AM PST by FR_addict
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To: foreverfree

Less than minimum wage? Obama’s NLRB is gonna blast ‘em for that.


34 posted on 01/24/2014 6:06:35 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: ThunderSleeps

The comments in this thread are overwhelmingly unsympathetic and judgmental. I suppose we could debate the merits of the minimum wage laws. Do you think they should only apply to fully-clothed women? What’s the difference between putting this kind of moral gloss on laws versus sharia?


35 posted on 01/24/2014 6:06:41 AM PST by drb9
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To: FR_addict

Ballplayers in the low minors do earn astonishingly piddly sums.

The team down the road for me is always scrambling for host families to let a player crash with them rent-free during the season.

That’s why they have so many Dominicans. It’s better money than they can earn back home. American kids can make more at Home Depot.


36 posted on 01/24/2014 6:07:58 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: drb9

Personally I think all these NFL cheerleaders are underpaid.
I was stunned to learn how little the Dallas Cowgirls made when the team is selling their image on posters and merchandise all over the planet.


37 posted on 01/24/2014 6:08:56 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: FR_addict

opps! I was wrong, they only get $850 a month.

http://nationalsportsandentertainment.wordpress.com/2010/03/17/pay-structure-of-minor-league-baseball-players/

I would compare an elementary inner city public school teacher to a minor league baseball player.


38 posted on 01/24/2014 6:09:47 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

On the other hand, a world class college professor (comparable to a pro athelete) can earn millions. Here is a list of some of the highest paid college professors.

http://www.thebestschools.org/blog/2013/11/25/10-highest-paid-college-professors-u-s/


39 posted on 01/24/2014 6:15:58 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: bert

Obviously I was referring to common core standards.


40 posted on 01/24/2014 6:16:40 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: foreverfree

Just win baby........Al


41 posted on 01/24/2014 6:37:34 AM PST by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: cripplecreek
there was no reason a good teacher shouldn’t make as much as a pro baseball player.

This will happen.....the day that there's as many teachers as there are people in the world who can consistently hit a Major League curve.

42 posted on 01/24/2014 6:40:28 AM PST by wbill
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To: foreverfree

All the money NFL teams and players make and they want to stiff the cheerleaders —

Pay the girls.


43 posted on 01/24/2014 7:11:37 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: cripplecreek
A few years ago a teacher tried to tell me that there was no reason a good teacher shouldn’t make as much as a pro baseball player.

I hear that all the time. People don't seem to "get" that teachers' salaries and baseball players' salaries come from completely different sources. It's just a self-righteous, feel-good statement that people like to say.

44 posted on 01/24/2014 7:14:09 AM PST by Nea Wood
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To: Nea Wood

Plus, no one is forced to pay a baseball player’s salary by way of taxation.


45 posted on 01/24/2014 7:22:49 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: MortMan

Well, you are correct. Keep in mind though that relatively....... some of us are old, very old.

We try hard, but can’t always keep up.


46 posted on 01/24/2014 7:41:25 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: foreverfree

Perhaps if the girls wiggled their butts and shook their pom poms closer to the stands, the spectators could throw $ at them.


47 posted on 01/24/2014 7:42:17 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: bert

I’m not very, very old. Just very old! LOL

But I can still keep up, if the downhill grade is sufficient!


48 posted on 01/24/2014 7:42:42 AM PST by MortMan (Is a delayed shower a "stay of exablution"?)
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To: JimRed

Google search on ‘cheerleaders’
http://tinyurl.com/l3wgwbp


49 posted on 01/24/2014 11:32:33 AM PST by minnesota_bound
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To: TexasFreeper2009
On the other hand, a world class college professor (comparable to a pro athelete) can earn millions. Here is a list of some of the highest paid college professors.

http://www.thebestschools.org/blog/2013/11/25/10-highest-paid-college-professors-u-s/

My my my. But they do bring some impressive skills to the table, don't they?

50 posted on 01/24/2014 11:40:18 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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