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A Culture That Celebrates Abortion Wills Its Own Destruction
Townhall.com ^ | January 24, 2014 | David Limbaugh

Posted on 01/24/2014 6:09:51 AM PST by Kaslin

At a time when more and more Americans are coming to an awareness of how evil abortion is, President Barack Obama, the most fiercely pro-abortionist president in our history, is digging his heels in further.

This week, he made his annual statement glorifying this hideous practice on the anniversary of the infernal 1973 Supreme Court decision, Roe v. Wade, which greatly restricted abortion laws.

Obama's statement was as unapologetic as it was grotesque, celebrating an abominable procedure that ought to be outlawed -- not glamorized, as the left does with it. Before you accuse me of hyperbole, be advised that Democratic National Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz wished Roe v. Wade a happy 41st birthday. "Happy"?

Obama said, "Today, as we reflect on the 41st anniversary of the Supreme Court decision in Roe v. Wade, we recommit ourselves to the decision's guiding principle: that every woman should be able to make her own choices about her body and her health.

"We reaffirm our steadfast commitment to protecting a woman's access to safe, affordable health care and her constitutional right to privacy, including the right to reproductive freedom.

"And we resolve to reduce the number of unintended pregnancies, support maternal and child health, and continue to build safe and healthy communities for all our children, because this is a country where everyone deserves the same freedom and opportunities to fulfill their dreams."

No one is trying to interfere with women's autonomy over their own bodies, except when another body and life is involved. It is sheer sophistry and misdirection to argue that abortion opponents are on a crusade against women's liberty. This formulation conveniently -- and repugnantly -- factors out of the equation the innocent child involved.

It is dishonest for Obama to couch this issue in terms of women's health. Most pro-lifers, in fact, acknowledge an exception in those rare cases when the mother's life is in danger. Women's health isn't the issue, and pro-abortionists know that. The only thing interfering with a woman's "choices about her ... health" these days is Obamacare. If maximizing health care choices were what is driving Obama, he would repeal Obamacare.

Nor does abortion have anything to do with privacy under any stretch of the English language; I don't care what the misguided Supreme Court said to the contrary in 1973. No amount of rhetorical legalese on "emanations" and "penumbras" can pollute our common sense into believing that a woman has a right to terminate the life of an innocent child she is carrying as a matter of constitutional privacy. No wonder some people have contempt for lawyers.

Obama has the audacity to talk about safe and healthy communities for all our children? Aborted babies are children, and Obama and his pro-abortionists are not making any of them safe. Indeed, since Roe, an estimated 55 million babies have been snuffed out in the name of women's choice and health and now children's safety? Now that's chutzpah! The number of babies killed in abortions in New York City in 2010 (83,750) would fill the seats in MetLife Stadium, where the Super Bowl is scheduled to be played this year.

But perhaps the most offensive sentence in Obama's statement was the last one, in which he attempted to fold the right to abortion into the American dream. Has he no shame? No amount of presidential spin will alter the irreversible fact that 55 million Americans were never given an opportunity to fulfill their dreams. How could any human being believe that preserving legal protection for other human beings to terminate the lives of yet other human beings is giving them an "opportunity to fill their dreams"? Are some people so dark-hearted that they consider killing babies an opportunity to fulfill dreams?

It is high time that people who can still find their moral compass through the nihilistic morass that is corrupting our culture start speaking out and quit allowing the left to turn our values, our language and, yes, our sanity on their heads. Postmodernism and moral relativism will lead to the destruction of all three, as the late Malcolm Muggeridge prophetically observed.

Some other civilizations, Muggeridge noted, were destroyed by external forces, but Western man has "had the unique distinction of training its own destroyers at its own educational institutions, and then providing them with facilities for propagating their destructive ideology far and wide, all at the public expense. Thus did Western Man decide to abolish himself, creating his own boredom out of his own affluence, his own vulnerability out of his own strength, his own impotence out of his own erotomania, himself blowing the trumpet that brought the walls of his own city tumbling down, and having convinced himself that he was too numerous, labored with pill and scalpel and syringe to make himself fewer. Until at last, having educated himself into imbecility, and polluted and drugged himself into stupefaction, he keeled over -- a weary, battered old brontosaurus -- and became extinct."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: abortion; prolife

1 posted on 01/24/2014 6:09:51 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Humanism is the religion of the Left. Abortion is its sacrament. The Death Cult of the ungodly glories in it.


2 posted on 01/24/2014 6:14:37 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: Kaslin

human sacrifice is not new nor only having been practiced in the west. The one common factor, don’t know of a civilization that survived. I do however want to know if they suffered the same judgment given the nations (tribes) which once occupied the Promised Land and were given the consequences of invasion and Lamentation. If so, sounds like God’s judgment to me. Be careful what you wish for. The God of justice has not changed. The God who avenges the innocent has not changed. This is on a national level. repeat. National.


3 posted on 01/24/2014 6:16:56 AM PST by huldah1776
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To: huldah1776

Link to the full-text Free Republic thread.

4 posted on 01/24/2014 6:20:26 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: huldah1776

Abortion is a human sacrifice to the god of self.
Nothing has changed since the beginning.
“you will be as gods, knowing good and evil”
(”knowing” having a connotation of “deciding”)


5 posted on 01/24/2014 6:22:49 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Kaslin

I detest abortion.

BUT, lets be honest. Abortion has helped conservatism in the US. The vast majority of those having abortions are liberals and minorities which vote overwhelmingly for Democrats.

That doesn’t make it right, but it’s worth pointing out.


6 posted on 01/24/2014 6:24:29 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

That’s ONE angle to look at... but I think it’s simplifying the reality.

Since the family unit is the basis of conservatism,
and abortion has a direct result of destroying that family unit
(as does any policy from the left),

it may have a net negative effect on conservatism and liberty.


7 posted on 01/24/2014 6:27:02 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Kaslin

And now we also have 55 million hurting, depressed or suicidal, or self destructive women because of Roe v. Wade. Every girl I ever met who had an abortion were either deeply regretful or they were just the opposite....they would imagine that since the father was “evil” so was the baby they aborted, so they could justify the decision they made, being in total self denial. The Communist care nothing about women, this is another step to demoralize us, and boy did they do that....it has taken away our national soul. I can not even wrap my mind around 55 million precious little ones....all I can do is mourn for the forgotten American babies. If we really cared....we would rise up.....millions of us and do away with this murder tomorrow, but no.....it is just a political position now. I believe that America as a whole deserves what we get, for this national sin, and exactly why we have an evil leader in the white house now. God did the exact same thing in the bible.


8 posted on 01/24/2014 6:32:07 AM PST by astratt7 (obama,muslim,politics)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

I think yours was a comment best kept to yourself.

These were children, not statistics.


9 posted on 01/24/2014 6:34:43 AM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: Kaslin

We finally made it.
10 posted on 01/24/2014 6:37:35 AM PST by onedoug
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To: astratt7

You’ll also find that the most strident abortion defenders are those that have had an abortion and spend the rest of their lives trying to justify their decision to kill.


11 posted on 01/24/2014 6:39:03 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: onedoug
We're worse than that depiction.....that heart may not have been so innocent.
12 posted on 01/24/2014 6:39:22 AM PST by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: Kaslin

Since 1973 Americans have murdered more innocent children than all the people who died during World War II.

Americans have managed to murder more babies than the populations of California and New York Combined.

And we wonder why God seems to be absent in our culture.

We live in a culture that is barbaric beyond any that we dare to criticize. The blood of 55 million murdered children cries out from the grave.

America must REPENT OR PERISH.


13 posted on 01/24/2014 6:45:11 AM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: MrB

I know....and do not believe what TexasFreeper said....this has not been good for Conservatives at all....most of the women I have known were Born Again Christians either during the Abortion or after! I heard a poll that 1 out every 4 women in America have had an Abortion and that includes Christians. They believed the lie too that the “Fetus” is just a glob of tissue. I hate that word “Fetus”.
You see, I got pregnant at 15 by statutory rape, and hid my pregnancy so that by the time my sister took me for an abortion, it was too late back in 1979. So I had a beautiful little girl at an unwed mothers home and gave her up for adoption. I was also able to talk one of my friends out of having an abortion, and she thanked me sincerely after she gave birth to a beautiful little girl.
This issue is number one for me....the right to life is the basis for all of our other freedoms. After that was taken away, all other freedoms are in jeopardy, and now we can see them all being taken away. Who will speak for the little ones who cannot defend themselves?
If the shame of abortion would be lifted off of 55 million women, and they tell of the hurt, pain and devastation it has had on their lives.These women could stop abortion right now, by telling the truth about what abortion. But they are in a prison of shame and denial. This is the secret sin of women that have have been lied to by these evil people, and so it is a vicious cycle.


14 posted on 01/24/2014 7:05:03 AM PST by astratt7 (obama,muslim,politics)
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To: Kaslin

Our SS class, a few years back, studied the book of Jeremiah. Child sacrifice (abortion and throwing their live children into the fire) were both practiced as part of their idolatry. We go even further, in my opinion. We flaunt our nakedness, our sins, our degradation openly and without shame. Yes, they did to some extent, as well, but our society has decided to go all out and stick our middle finger in God’s face. Yes, the very One who gave His only begotten Son so that whosoever believed would not perish. They deny the life after death, but they will have a rude awakening one day, that day after death when they realize they were wrong. Wonder who they’ll blame then.

I’m not saying that Christians have always loved well, but let’s face the fact that most of the anti-christian rhetoric today stems from what people believe we believe, not from personal experience. If you tell anyone you are a believer, you are automatically a hater, a bigot, a racist, whatever. Doesn’t matter how loving and caring a person you are. Your beliefs MAKE you what THEY want you to be. We do not often get the opportunity to SHOW our faith. It is dismissed. And, to be honest, the social “christians” who vote democrat make things worse. They come preaching their message that we ARE the haters, even as they have never seen us in action, or seen us demonstrating our Christian love. The point being to silence us and cower us into their viewpoint. I’m sick of being called callous, hateful, a bigot, and any number of other things, just because I am a true follower of Christ. Most true believers are involved in ministry in several ways, actually, and our churches do ministry to the poor in our communities, those suffering after a disaster, etc.

They want to force their brand of Christianity down our throats. Theirs is leading people down the road to destruction because when the Truth is compromised for the sake of not hurting someone’s feelings, you are NOT expressing true love. True love exposes sin in a loving and caring manner, offering the sinner a chance for repentance, but firmly showing them the consequences of their sin. One truly wonders how they view their own sin. Jesus said that the way was narrow and few there be that find it. That makes me pause and consider my life quite often. We ARE to be God’s messengers of His love and compassion, His wanting all to be saved, but we dare not change the Gospel to suit the sinners. Scripture also instructs us not to change anything, to make our own interpretations, according to our evil desires. America is self-destructing because we have changed the Truth into lies to suit our sinful natures, rather than change our lives to fit the Truth. All the degradations we see today are just symptoms of the disease of sin, left untreated (like an STD) . We will collapse some day. We could be taken over by a foreign power. We will be somebody’s slaves. This is how history works. I do not see a repentant spirit in America. I know there are still a lot of good Christians, but the left, and “believers” on the left (???) seem to be gaining daily. If it were not that we know the end, that Christ is triumphant, these days would be intolerable.


15 posted on 01/24/2014 7:30:39 AM PST by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: Kaslin
Until at last, having educated himself into imbecility, and polluted and drugged himself into stupefaction, he keeled over -- a weary, battered old brontosaurus -- and became extinct."

Prediction for the Progressive "believers".

16 posted on 01/24/2014 7:49:26 AM PST by thirst4truth (www.Believer.com)
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To: Kaslin
Thank you.

Witness a living testimony to Limbaugh's article here.

See news story here

17 posted on 01/24/2014 8:01:10 AM PST by loveliberty2
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To: P-Marlowe
America must REPENT OR PERISH

They will definitely vote to PERISH then.

18 posted on 01/24/2014 10:13:05 AM PST by Theodore R. (TX Republicans can't wait until March 4 to nominate Cornball and George P.!)
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To: P-Marlowe

Repentance is virtually absent in our culture. YHWH’s patience is running out...perhaps it already has...


19 posted on 01/24/2014 10:18:28 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: huldah1776

Agreed.

Essentially, these issues in which we as a culture look God in the face and call Him a liar, are national security issues. God isn’t the passive, pleading and powerless “deity” that the “Christian” left has sold to the public. That’s an idolatrous “god” of their imaginations. The Almighty God is also a God of wrath, and He doesn’t appreciate being called a liar.


20 posted on 01/24/2014 10:44:31 AM PST by afsnco
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To: Kaslin


Are you still killing your unborn?

-- GOD


 

21 posted on 01/24/2014 1:06:46 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Kaslin
I'd like to thank the United States Government for protecting me and my kind.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
You see, 40 years ago, my odds of making it out of the egg, alive, were very poor; about 80% of us died. 
 (http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=rachel-carson-silent-spring-1972-ddt-ban-birds-thrive)
 
 
But a lady discovered our plight and wrote a book that addressed our problem,
and, in 1972, a law was ammended protecting us even further. (http://www.fws.gov/midwest/eagle/protect/laws.html)
 
 
 
 
 
 
What I find strange is that the same government passed a law the very next year that allowed for killing
of unborn, and apparently unwanted, humans.  Little ones still nestled safely in their Mother's womb.
Around 25% of them are dying before birth - on average nearly 3,300 - every day of the year.
 
 
I hear that by now, somewhere around 55 MILLION of them have perished.
Wouldn't that kind of mess up the humans plans for growth, and welfare, and
retirement?
 
 
 
 
 
Strange birds; these Homo Sapiens.  Perhaps they'll come to their senses
before they are ALL dead!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

22 posted on 01/24/2014 1:07:08 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MrB
you will be as gods, knowing good and evil”





The Doctrine and Covenants

Section 132

Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet, at Nauvoo, Illinois, recorded 12 July 1843, relating to the new and everlasting covenant, including the eternity of the marriage covenant, and also the plurality of wives (see History of the Church, 5:501–7). Although the revelation was recorded in 1843, it is evident from the historical records that the doctrines and principles involved in this revelation had been known by the Prophet since 1831.

1–6, Exaltation is gained through the new and everlasting covenant; 7–14, The terms and conditions of that covenant are set forth; 15–20, Celestial marriage and a continuation of the family unit enable men to become gods; 21–25, The strait and narrow way leads to eternal lives; 26–27, The law is given relative to blasphemy against the Holy Ghost; 28–39, Promises of eternal increase and exaltation are made to prophets and Saints in all ages; 40–47, Joseph Smith is given the power to bind and seal on earth and in heaven; 48–50, The Lord seals upon him his exaltation; 51–57, Emma Smith is counseled to be faithful and true; 58–66, Laws governing the plurality of wives are set forth.

 


 

 16Therefore, when they are out of the world they neither marry nor are given in amarriage; but are appointed angels in bheaven, which angels are ministering cservants, to minister for those who are worthy of a far more, and an exceeding, and an eternal weight of glory.

 17For these angels did not abide my law; therefore, they cannot be enlarged, but remain separately and singly, without exaltation, in their saved condition, to all eternity; and from henceforth are not gods, but are aangels of God forever and ever.

 18And again, verily I say unto you, if a man marry a wife, and make a covenant with her for time and for all eternity, if that acovenant is not by me or by my word, which is my law, and is not sealed by the Holy Spirit of promise, through him whom I have anointed and appointed unto this power, then it is not valid neither of force when they are out of the world, because they are not joined by me, saith the Lord, neither by my word; when they are out of the world it cannot be received there, because the angels and the gods are appointed there, by whom they cannot pass; they cannot, therefore, inherit my glory; for my house is a house of order, saith the Lord God.

 19And again, verily I say unto you, if a man amarry a wife by my word, which is my law, and by the new and beverlasting covenant, and it is csealed unto them by the Holy Spirit of dpromise, by him who is anointed, unto whom I have appointed this power and the ekeys of this priesthood; and it shall be said unto them—Ye shall come forth in the first resurrection; and if it be after the first resurrection, in the next resurrection; and shall inherit fthrones, kingdoms, principalities, and powers, dominions, all heights and depths—then shall it be written in the Lamb’s gBook of Life, that he shall commit no hmurder whereby to shed innocent iblood, and if ye abide in my covenant, and commit no murder whereby to shed innocent blood, it shall be done unto them in all things whatsoever my servant hath put upon them, in time, and through all eternity; and shall be of full force when they are out of the world; and they shall pass by the angels, and the gods, which are set there, to their jexaltation and glory in all things, as hath been sealed upon their heads, which glory shall be a fulness and a continuation of the kseeds forever and ever.

 20 Then shall they be gods, because they have no end; therefore shall they be from aeverlasting to everlasting, because they continue; then shall they be above all, because all things are subject unto them. Then shall they be bgods, because they have call power, and the angels are subject unto them.

 21Verily, verily, I say unto you, except ye abide my alaw ye cannot attain to this glory.

 22For astrait is the gate, and narrow the bway that leadeth unto the exaltation and continuation of the clives, and few there be that find it, because ye receive me not in the world neither do ye know me.

 23But if ye receive me in the world, then shall ye know me, and shall receive your exaltation; that awhere I am ye shall be also.

 24This is aeternal lives—to bknow the only wise and true God, and Jesus Christ, whom he hath csent. I am he. Receive ye, therefore, my law.

 25aBroad is the gate, and wide the way that leadeth to the bdeaths; and many there are that go in thereat, because they creceive me not, neither do they abide in my law.


Nothing new under the sun...


23 posted on 01/24/2014 1:09:31 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
The vast majority of those having abortions are liberals and minorities which vote overwhelmingly for Democrats.

So?

Nothing will change THOSE voters; but the CHILDREN would most likely swing AWAY from their parent(s?) politics; as it so often happens.

24 posted on 01/24/2014 1:11:36 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: astratt7
I believe that America as a whole deserves what we get, for this national sin, and exactly why we have an evil leader in the white house now.

And, as a Nation, we keep looking for a POLITICAL solution to this problem.


The diagnosis is in: will we take the medicine???


 

 

2 Chronicles 7:14

If my people, who are called by my name,
shall humble themselves,
and pray, and seek my face,
and turn from their wicked ways; ,

then will I hear from heaven,
and will forgive their sin,
and will heal their land.

25 posted on 01/24/2014 1:13:46 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: P-Marlowe

One death is a tragedy; one million is a statistic.

Joseph Stalin


26 posted on 01/24/2014 1:15:11 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: P-Marlowe
America must REPENT OR PERISH.

That's a little bit judgemental!












But I agree...








27 posted on 01/24/2014 1:16:33 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: astratt7
If the shame of abortion would be lifted off of 55 million women...

(It's actually less than that; as some have had MULTIPLE choices.)


I know of NOTHING - other than the love of JESUS - that can help those ladies (and men who seem to have had a LITTLE bit of input as well).

28 posted on 01/24/2014 1:18:42 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Shery
We go even further, in my opinion. We flaunt our nakedness, our sins, our degradation openly and without shame.

Surely NOT!!!!!




Genesis 13:13
Now the men of Sodom were wicked and were sinning greatly against the LORD.

Genesis 18:20-21
20. Then the LORD said, "The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and
their sin so grievous
21. that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know."

Genesis 19:4-7
4. Before they had gone to bed, all the men
from every part of the city of Sodom--both young and old--surrounded the house.
5. They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them
."
6. Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him
7. and said, "No, my friends. Don't do this wicked thing.

Psalms 12:8 The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.

Doonesbury Cartoon for Feb/08/2013

Isaiah 3:9 The look on their faces testifies against them; they parade their sin like Sodom; they do not hide it. Woe to them! They have brought disaster upon themselves.

2 Peter 2:13b Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.


Ezekiel 16:49-50
49. "`Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.
50. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.



2 Peter 2

1. But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
2. Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
3. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
4. For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them into gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment;
5. if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others;
6. if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly;
7. and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the filthy lives of lawless men
8. (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)--
9. if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue godly men from trials and to hold the unrighteous for the day of judgment, while continuing their punishment.
10. This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the sinful nature and despise authority. Bold and arrogant, these men are not afraid to slander celestial beings;
11. yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not bring slanderous accusations against such beings in the presence of the Lord.
12. But these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like beasts they too will perish.
13. They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done.
Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.



But there IS hope!!!

1 Corinthians 6:9-11

9. Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived:
Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
10. nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
11. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.


If you could NOT change, you would be in most pitiful shape...
 

 
 
 
 

29 posted on 01/24/2014 1:19:46 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Theodore R.

Most folks would rather be PRAISED into Hell;
than REBUKED into Heaven.


30 posted on 01/24/2014 1:20:33 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: afsnco

What will really shock a lot of people will be the fact that it will indeed be the Son of God on the throne who will exact that judgment and give the order to commence and fulfill HIS righteous wrath. His description in Revelation is one that I am imagining.


31 posted on 01/24/2014 4:52:45 PM PST by huldah1776
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To: Shery

the watered down non-offensive evangelism is not of God.

Hebrews 4:12

New American Standard Bible (NASB)

12 For the word of God is living and active and sharper than any two-edged sword, and piercing as far as the division of soul and spirit, of both joints and marrow, and able to judge the thoughts and intentions of the heart.

And as for repenting. King Manasseh was the one who lead Israel into child sacrifice and he did repent and was forgiven. Eventually his grandson, Josiah, would lead Israel into the a deep spiritual revival. But, alas, God said He would not forgive the nation of Israel for the things they did under Manasseh.

“However, the LORD did not turn from the fierceness of His great wrath with which His anger burned against Judah, because of all the provocations with which Manasseh had provoked Him. And the LORD said, “I will remove Judah also from My sight, as I have removed Israel. And I will cast off Jerusalem, this city which I have chosen, and the temple (house) of which I said, ‘My name shall be there’.”
“Surely at the command (mouth) of the LORD it came upon Judah, to remove them from His sight because of the sins of Manasseh, according to all that he had done, and also for the innocent blood which he shed, for he filled Jerusalem with innocent blood; AND THE LORD WOULD NOT FORGIVE.” (All caps mine) 2 Kings 23: 26 & 27 and 24: 3 & 4

We could delay the national (and now world-how many nations are practicing child sacrifice?) judgment but God is just and avenges the blood of the innocent.

The Book of Lamentations is the consequence.


32 posted on 01/24/2014 5:03:19 PM PST by huldah1776
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To: astratt7
I believe that America as a whole deserves what we get, for this national sin, and exactly why we have an evil leader in the white house now. God did the exact same thing in the bible.

Exactly. You said more than a mouthful!

Jesus Christ: You can’t impeach Him and He ain’t going to resign.



33 posted on 01/24/2014 9:06:11 PM PST by rdb3 (Drive for show, putt for dough. No wonder why I stayed broke on the links!)
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