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East Palo Alto: Star-studded task force backs pro-immigration policy
San Jose Mercury News ^ | 1/24/14 | David E. Early

Posted on 01/24/2014 6:10:59 AM PST by jimbo123

A pro-immigration policy will ensure the nation's future prosperity, better national security and a more youthful labor force that will help pay for retirement and medical programs for decades to come, a star-studded group said here Thursday.

The Bipartisan Policy Center, helmed by an immigration task force featuring the unlikely pairing of Republican Condoleezza Rice and Democrat Henry Cisneros, released an analysis on demographics that painted immigration reform as a significant boost to the United States, both on the home front and internationally.

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Because the issue of immigration policy has become so politically contentious, the range of liberal and conservative participants on the immigration task force of the Bipartisan Policy Center is notable. Members include: Republican Haley Barbour, former governor of Mississippi; Democrat Ed Rendell, former governor of Pennsylvania; Democrat Henry Cisneros, former U.S. secretary of housing and urban Development; Republican Condoleezza Rice, former U.S. secretary of state; Republican Michael Chertoff, former U.S. secretary of homeland Security; Republican Al Cardenas, chairman of the American Conservative Union; and Democrat Eliseo Medina, chair of the SEIU Immigration and Latino Civic Engagement Initiative.

(Excerpt) Read more at mercurynews.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty
"The BPC is a business-sponsored think tank. It backs businesses' interest in investing a lot of money toward gaining access to all the foreign-born labor they can get," said Ira Mehlman, spokesman for the Federation for American Immigration Reform. "They simply don't want to pay middle-class salaries to American workers."
1 posted on 01/24/2014 6:10:59 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

Oh, well, if the star studs want it, it must be good.


2 posted on 01/24/2014 6:14:10 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (ObamaCare. The "global warming" of healthcare plans.)
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To: jimbo123
Maybe this well-heeled ‘task force’ can pony up and put their money where THER mouths are!!

It will cost everyday ‘Joe America’ more than it will EVER cost this crowd of ‘drunk on attention’ ideologues!

3 posted on 01/24/2014 6:14:34 AM PST by SMARTY ("When you blame others, you give up your power to change." Robert Anthony)
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To: SMARTY

My friends it’s over.


4 posted on 01/24/2014 6:16:28 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: jimbo123
A pro-immigration policy will ensure the nation's future prosperity, better national security

WH Clown refuses to enforce immigration laws on the books from prior Congresses and Presidents, WILL SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN HOW "REFORM" BY ISSUING NEW LAWS WILL IMPROVE BORDER SECURITY? PLEASE I BEG OF YOU RATS, EXPLAIN YOURSELVES.

I suppose the LIBTARD answer would be that if we relaxed the laws, then no one will be breaking the law? Just throw the border open - make the law match the actual enforcement practice?

RATS = new voters
GOP = CHEAP LABOR



5 posted on 01/24/2014 6:16:49 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: jimbo123

A convenient list of who NOT to vote for in the next election!


6 posted on 01/24/2014 6:19:38 AM PST by PATRIOT1876
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To: Cheerio

*refuses to enforce immigration laws *

Which laws are WE CITIZENS allowed to ignore?

I’d like the government to provide us with a list.


7 posted on 01/24/2014 6:20:49 AM PST by PATRIOT1876
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To: DIRTYSECRET

I’d like to make a suggestion on immigration reform.

Let’s open this to be a state affair...rather than a federal affair. Tell each state...based on it’s population...they can manage a visa-to-work deal, and if the person stays around ten years within their state (not on welfare and not arrested for anything), then they can apply for US citizenship. If Alabama limits their take to 1,000 a year...fine, that’s the limit. If California wants 40,000 a year, fine, it’s their issue to clean up.

No vote granted, no citizen status....until you get ten years under your belt. Let the states manage their own mess. If they think it’s wise, it’s their issue. Oh, and moving around to other states later? No...you have to stay in the state where you started this process. Ten years of waiting in that state.


8 posted on 01/24/2014 6:20:50 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: jimbo123

Event being held in East Palo Alto

last census

http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/06/0620956.html

Foreign born 40.1%

Language other than English spoken at home, pct age 5+, 2008-2012 69.7%

Persons below poverty level, percent, 2008-2012
18.0%

Yeah real immigration success story


9 posted on 01/24/2014 6:21:26 AM PST by artichokegrower
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To: jimbo123; AlexW
"A pro-immigration policy will ensure the nation's future prosperity, better national security and a more youthful labor force that will help pay for retirement and medical programs for decades to come, a star-studded group said here Thursday."

If a "group" of allegedly intelligent, educated people actually formulated that sentence, or implied it or even endorsed it ... It's all over

It's like my shop teacher terlling me NOW, "Hey .. y'member all that Ohm's Law stuff? ... F'GETaboudit ... it doesn't work"

AlexW is correct.

10 posted on 01/24/2014 6:22:40 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: jimbo123

You low skilled American workers better get used to the unemployment line.


11 posted on 01/24/2014 6:25:40 AM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: knarf

12 posted on 01/24/2014 6:26:01 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123; Tennessee Nana; Liz; TADSLOS; EXCH54FE; GeronL; Travis McGee; stephenjohnbanker; ...
RE :”A pro-immigration policy will ensure the nation's future prosperity, better national security and a more youthful labor force that will help pay for retirement and medical programs for decades to come, a star-studded group said here Thursday.
The Bipartisan Policy Center, helmed by an immigration task force featuring the unlikely pairing of Republican Condoleezza Rice and Democrat Henry Cisneros, released an analysis on demographics that painted immigration reform as a significant boost to the United States, both on the home front and internationally. “

These claims that they will pay for our future medicare and SS would have some merit if the ~ 10 year amnesty probation included some income requirements the opposite of means testing, in other words that income would have to make enough to be excluded from any government handouts and pay a decent income tax rate.

Not much good if they pay those payroll taxes but get food stamps, medicaid and EITC.

But these reforms are never constructed to meet the amnesty promises.

13 posted on 01/24/2014 6:30:06 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: jimbo123

“Star studded”?

I guess that means it will really hurt when they attempt to ram it up our a**.


14 posted on 01/24/2014 6:31:32 AM PST by Altura Ct.
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To: jimbo123

The reference to national security means that neo-cons want the young illegals in the army for the next invasion, maybe of Iran or Syria.

Condi’s definitely a neo.


15 posted on 01/24/2014 6:33:33 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: jimbo123

“The BPC is a business-sponsored think tank.”

Nuff said.


16 posted on 01/24/2014 6:35:42 AM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Huskrrrr

“You low skilled American workers better get used to the unemployment line.”

It’s not even that. A local plumber here hires illegals to do his work. He shows up on the job, gives an estimate and then sends over a pair of jaboneys to do the work at 10-15 bucks an hour.

His horrible reputation is getting around but he’s been in business for many years. I’ve seen these guys in the supply house using sign language to talk to the counter man.

Somehow magically these guys are all supposed to be expert tradesman. I’ve come in on there “work”. It’s a disaster.


17 posted on 01/24/2014 6:42:13 AM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: artichokegrower

These traitors want to make all of the US like Palo Alto/East Palo Alto. The 10%-20% elite live in Palo Alto while the rest of us live in American versions of favelas of East Palo Alto.


18 posted on 01/24/2014 7:17:48 AM PST by C19fan
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To: jimbo123; sickoflibs
Members include: Republican Haley Barbour, former governor of Mississippi; Democrat Ed Rendell, former governor of Pennsylvania; Democrat Henry Cisneros, former U.S. secretary of housing and urban Development; Republican Condoleezza Rice, former U.S. secretary of state; Republican Michael Chertoff, former U.S. secretary of homeland Security; Republican Al Cardenas, chairman of the American Conservative Union; and Democrat Eliseo Medina, chair of the SEIU Immigration and Latino Civic Engagement Initiative.

What a sorry bunch of fifth columnists bent on the destruction of the American worker and the middle class. The fact that Eliseo Medina is a member should give any sane person pause. Listen to what Medina said in 2009 shortly after the Obama victory:

Eliseo Medina Speaks on Immigrants for Votes

19 posted on 01/24/2014 7:24:58 AM PST by kabar
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To: artichokegrower

EPA used to be a black ghetto. Now the hispanics are moving them out like they did in LA and other parts of CA.


20 posted on 01/24/2014 7:33:49 AM PST by lodi90
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To: kabar

What a sorry bunch of fifth columnists bent on the destruction of the American worker and the middle class. T


I prefer to think of them as careerist prostitutes. Pay them and they will play. Whatever you want.

Both parties have totally abandoned the middle class. They all nauseate me.


21 posted on 01/24/2014 7:36:11 AM PST by lodi90
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To: jimbo123

which has higher standing: a star-studded task force or a blue ribbon committee? (snark)


22 posted on 01/24/2014 7:39:53 AM PST by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: kabar; jimbo123

I watched the vid. He says 12 million new voters from immigration reform.

That is certainly their goal as I been posting for months, but what does he say about an amnesty bill with no citizenship at all?


23 posted on 01/24/2014 8:34:47 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: sickoflibs
That is certainly their goal as I been posting for months, but what does he say about an amnesty bill with no citizenship at all?

Still banging the same drum. Once legalized, they will be given a path to citizenship. Anyone who believes that you can legalize the 12 to 20 million lawbreakers and not have them become citizens is a fool. This legalization without citizenship is a GOPe scam to fool and deceive conservative Republicans. They think they can say it is not an amnesty because there is no path to citizenship. And what does legalization entitle the lawbreakers to do:

"Under such an amnesty, the formerly illegal immigrants would receive Employment Authorization Documents (EADs, or work cards), legitimate Social Security accounts, driver’s licenses, expanded (though still limited) access to welfare, travel documents enabling them to leave and freely reenter the country, eligibility for affirmative-action preferences, and much more. The only thing they wouldn’t have is a timetable to apply for citizenship, which means no prospect of eventually being able to vote."

"A non-citizenship amnesty will not, in the final analysis, prevent this. That’s because in the real world the amnesty beneficiaries will eventually get green cards, and every Republican lawmaker pushing the idea knows that. Permanent second-class citizenship is politically unsustainable in the United States, and that’s not a bad thing. If such a measure were to pass, the Democrats would attack the Republicans relentlessly for imposing a Jim Crow immigration regime, and Republicans (led by today’s amnesty-pushers) would quickly fold, possibly delivering green cards to the former illegals even sooner than planned by the Senate bill. Representative Luis Gutierrez has come out and said as much; after signaling that he’d reluctantly accept a non-citizenship amnesty, he continued (emphasis added):

Right now we have to stop the deportations that are breaking up families. And if we do not get citizenship this year, we will be back next year and the year after that.

"What’s more, illegal immigration isn’t the main recruitment tool for the Left. Most immigrants are legal immigrants and it’s immigration overall that’s shifting politics to the left. The new immigration system created by the Senate bill would result in more than 32 million potential voters by 2036, lopsidedly Democrats, and overwhelmingly due to legal immigration flows, not the amnesty. (Michael Barone’s claim that “the Hispanic vote is up for grabs” is an uncharacteristic instance of wishful thinking.) Any effort to preserve the viability of traditionalist, small-government conservatism must start with reducing legal immigration, not supercharging it, as Chuck Schumer’s bill would do."

"a non-citizenship amnesty is no “halfway” solution. It’s a gimmick dreamed up by Republican lawmakers who want to join with their Democratic colleagues in delivering the amnesty and immigration increases that corporate donors demand, while at the same time appearing responsive to the concerns of Republican (and independent and Reagan Democrat) voters.

"It’s a political expedient than would be abandoned the moment President Obama signed the bill."

24 posted on 01/24/2014 8:59:18 AM PST by kabar
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To: kabar
RE :”Still banging the same drum. Once legalized, they will be given a path to citizenship. Anyone who believes that you can legalize the 12 to 20 million lawbreakers and not have them become citizens is a fool.’

Then most or all Dems should all be dropping any demands for amnesty right now, if citizenship automatically follows anyway.

What if the GOP made changes to the law regarding citizenship as part of a deal? Changes that rule out 90% of them?

25 posted on 01/24/2014 9:03:36 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: kabar
RE :”Anyone who believes that you can legalize the 12 to 20 million lawbreakers and not have them become citizens is a fool. “

Considering that there are millions of immigrants here with green cards who never applied for citizenship that says who might be the fool.

A wife of a close relative was here legally for 25 years before she had an interest in getting it,.

26 posted on 01/24/2014 9:06:48 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: sickoflibs
Then most or all Dems should all be dropping any demands for amnesty right now, if citizenship automatically follows anyway.

Any legislation that allows the lawbreakers to stay and work here is amnesty. Legalization with or without a path to citizenship is amnesty. I gave you the following quote from Luis Gutierrez who is the Dem leader in the House on the issue:

Right now we have to stop the deportations that are breaking up families. And if we do not get citizenship this year, we will be back next year and the year after that

What if the GOP made changes to the law regarding citizenship as part of a deal? Changes that rule out 90% of them?

It matters not. Once you legalize them, citizenship will follow. We can't have second class citizenship. The Dems will make it a big political issue and the courts will weigh in as well.

27 posted on 01/24/2014 9:12:25 AM PST by kabar
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To: kabar
RE :”What if the GOP made changes to the law regarding citizenship as part of a deal? Changes that rule out 90% of them?
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It matters not. Once you legalize them, citizenship will follow. We can't have second class citizenship. “

Now come on, there are specific requirements for citizenship, they are way too weak for me but it is not automatic. Those are what needs to be fixed.

28 posted on 01/24/2014 9:16:58 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: sickoflibs
Considering that there are millions of immigrants here with green cards who never applied for citizenship that says who might be the fool. A wife of a close relative was here legally for 25 years before she had an interest in getting it,.

Yes we have 15 million green card holders in this country. Some do not choose the option of citizenship. Others are waiting the allotted time period before they can apply.

The Democrats have developed something called the New American initiative to assist green card holders in becoming citizens. The Governor of Maryland set up an office to do that and there is a bill in the General Assembly in VA to set up a similar office. The Dems will use it as a feeder/contact system to identify Dem voters. Immigrants vote more than two to one Dem. The more they can encourage and assist green card holders in becoming citizens, the more voters they will have.

29 posted on 01/24/2014 9:19:11 AM PST by kabar
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To: kabar
RE :”The Democrats have developed something called the New American initiative to assist green card holders in becoming citizens. The Governor of Maryland set up an office to do that and there is a bill in the General Assembly in VA to set up a similar office.”

No doubt Martin O Malley did that.

He also gave illegals drivers licenses.

30 posted on 01/24/2014 9:21:49 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: sickoflibs
Those are what needs to be fixed.

LOL. Fixed by whom? Obama created a backdoor amnesty for the so-called Dreamers. He should be impeached for it. Obama is selectively enforcing our immigration laws now. Internal enforcement has become almost non-existent.

31 posted on 01/24/2014 9:22:34 AM PST by kabar
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To: pepsionice

You would have to prevent spillover, where the last 1500 in the california 40K run to Nevada, etc.


32 posted on 01/24/2014 9:29:49 AM PST by MortMan (Is a delayed shower a "stay of exablution"?)
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To: kabar
RE :” He should be impeached for it. “

I have heard that before someplace.

Maybe you will find a genie in bottle and get three wishes because that is the only way that's happening.

33 posted on 01/24/2014 9:31:02 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: sickoflibs
Maybe you will find a genie in bottle and get three wishes because that is the only way that's happening.

It demonstrates how corrupt the GOP leadership has become. The GOP is not acting like an opposition party in control of the House of Representatives, which holds the purse strings and is supposed to be a curb on Executive Branch excess. The GOP is a willing partner with the Dems on amnesty. We are now witnessing the Kabuki dance as the Reps concoct a phony scam to deny there is an amnesty and that there will be no path to citizenship. The Dems play their part by reluctantly accepting the amnesty and vowing to pursue citizenship later.

The reality is that both parties get what they want. The Dems get amnesty and the Reps get a doubling of the guest worker programs along with almost a tripling of legal immigration over the next decade, i.e., 33 million more legal permanent immigrants,

34 posted on 01/24/2014 12:39:59 PM PST by kabar
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To: jimbo123

Hannity actually supported amnesty in 2011 because a minority RINO (Condi in this case) was in the room with him. People thought it was Murdoch or Rubio who flipped him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpBnEqTJSu4#t=3m55s

According to Condi poor Mexicans are the same as the people who have founded certain tech companies.


35 posted on 01/24/2014 3:25:43 PM PST by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: sickoflibs

I dont know if that sort of Visa exists yet.

I doubt Democrats will help the GOP create a new second class citizen visa like that. The circuit courts and different legislatures will make sure illegals get welfare and food stamps and advanced healthcare. You’d have to get all these Democrat legislatures to agree to stop giving them freebies.

Christie actually made some good points about illegals while he flip flopped last month. “How can they be second class citizens when they are not citizens?” Also talked about creating a magnet as if he were Tom Tancredo.

If these people are natural Republicans why does McCarthy, Rand Paul and Paul Ryan want to stop them from voting?


36 posted on 01/24/2014 3:30:06 PM PST by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: ObamahatesPACoal
RE :”I dont know if that sort of Visa exists yet.
I doubt Democrats will help the GOP create a new second class citizen visa like that.”

I was pointing out that its the citizenship process that needs fixing, it needs to be stricter.

That doesn't fix the birthright problem. That needs fixing too.

None of my ideas will be tried.

37 posted on 01/24/2014 4:54:55 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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