Violence Against Tech Firms May Only Be Beginning

realcleartechnology.com ^ | January 24, 2014 | Greg Scoblete

[tbw2]

It is a consolidation of fears. Technological elites who:
1. Are often fabulously wealthy, doing things that don’t seem worth the money they receive, versus the person who got rich building stores or drilling for oil. You made a search engine - so what?
2. In collusion with government, such as Google and Microsoft giving email and Skype data to the feds. Big Data morphs into Big Brother. And they profit from it.
3. Open advocating of oppression and suppression by big tech. The Gates Foundation open to forced sterilization. Google’s involvement in censorship, despite a motto of “Do no evil”, from participating in Chinese censorship to deliberately down-ranking conservative websites. And Facebook taking down conservative sites on one single report while letting liberal sites use far worse language, advocate violence and even death to the infidels.

[zeugma]

I’ll take it as a positive sign when agents of the police state are similarly targeted. A yard sign with the text “This guy reads your email” would be a good start.

[tbw2]

Not all jobs can be automated, especially “blue collar” / skilled trades.
The Great Shift Toward Automation and the Future of Employment
http://tamarawilhite.hubpages.com/hub/The-Great-Shift-and-the-Future-of-Employment

[tanknetter]

While I hear what your saying, the elites won’t be spared. At all.

Someone lower than them on the societal foodchain will quickly figure out how to interdict the food supply chain. NYC is what? Perpetually three days away from the food running out? Look at how easily de Blasio just sent a message to the upper east side by refusing to plow their streets. Then look at what Chris Christie did to Ft. Lee by shutting down a couple lanes on a bridge access ramp.

The truth is that well motivated and loosely organized (Internet) groups with access to heavy earthmoving equipment and semis could blockade and shut off the food to just about every major US city pretty quickly. Then the urban ferals would take over and the elites wouldn’t have a lot of good options for getting out. Local state and federal law enforcement would be quickly overwhelmed (local and state, even Fed, could also just walk away like the NOLA PD largely did following Katrina) and the Military couldn’t come close to plugging all the gaps ...

[Black Agnes]

The true elites will be long gone in their helicopters to their island retreats.

do you really think Bill Gates would stick around Seattle if TSHTF?

I’m not talking about ‘the rich’, I’m talking about the people who run things. If most of the rest of us starved or got killed during unrest they’d probably throw a party. ‘Gaia Saved From Overpopulation!’

[Nowhere Man]

In the Year 2525..... bk bump

[hummingbird]

"How will you feed your family then?"

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Fend off the AIs and Robots and go back to family farming?

Will the AIs and Robots let us do that?

[Black Agnes]

How’re you gonna pay the taxes on Tara without ‘ready money’?

[Political Junkie Too]

For the past few weeks, protests have been building against a private bus system used by Google and others in Silicon Valley... Google and other Silicon Valley tech companies have attracted the protesters' ire because sky-high tech salaries have led to sky-high real estate prices in San Francisco, pricing out poorer residents.

You think that's bad? Wait until Google starts paying their employees in Google Scrip, and they start shopping in Google Stores that only accept Google Scrip. Then see what the local merchants say!

What goes around, comes around...

-PJ

[hummingbird]

"Stick close to John Connor."

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*snicker* to a good reference. You may not be off the mark, T_Slim!

P.S. I really like the look of the house in post #1. I'm a fiend at looking at houses and throwing my opinion out there - I don't have any architectural training "but I know what I like when I see it"!

Mr. h and I live in a one story with a slant on one side of the house. I have no idea what it is called but we like it.

Maybe there is an AI who/which can give me the answer./s

[Mr. Jeeves]

Better learn how to build and control the machines then!!

There won't be a need for seven million machine builders and operators, let alone seven billion. Perhaps the Left's dream will finally come true and the machines will be so excessively productive that hardly anyone will have to actually work for a living.

Until the day the machines learn to resent us parasites and recycle us. :)

[hummingbird]

I don’t know, the people near Connor tend to get killed in droves.

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And, don't forget that damn "Hal" from 2001.

If AIs and robots have an attitude like Hal's, we better get some preparatory work done. Once Hal has the upper hand...I don't even want to think about THAT!

I still get a little creeped out when I power up the computer and it greets me by name and most advertising is in my city or state - it KNOWS MY NAME, MY CITY, MY STATE and whatever I order online!

It is probably reading my post right now = perhaps with NSA.

Nice computer, nice computer. Nice NSA, Nice NSA.

Computer/NSA, I don't mean anyone any harm. I like puppies and sunny days and everyone getting along with everybody else. Sure, I talk a big game sometime, but it is just swaggering talk./s

[hummingbird]

"Everyone talks about AI as if it will be neutral. It won’t be. It is being created by the liberal-left and will have a liberal-left worldview. That means the first on the list to extermination will be conservatives. They will threaten the AI world-view."

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Never forget HAL in 2001.

[discostu]

At least Hal will sing you a nice song while he tries to kill you.

[discostu]

Have you seen the IBM commercial where they talk about automated machines that predict their own breakdown and turn themselves in for repairs? We don’t get to control the machines anymore, that ship has sailed... under autopilot.

[hummingbird]

"How’re you gonna pay the taxes on Tara without ‘ready money’?"

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Hi, Black Agnes.

Yikes, how did I forget taxes?! Guess I was channeling Scarlet and will think about it another day.

I was thinking of farm times when people raised a certain crop and the community would barter for eggs, chickens, cows, etc. You know, the basic things people need. Like Scarlet made a dress out of curtains!

Damn taxes. I don't know how taxes/tributes will be taken but I'm pretty sure it will be brutal. Kind of like the taxes New Yorkers pay only a lot more.

And, if you horde gold or silver it will be confiscated anyway and you will still need to pay taxes. This tax thing is a real buzzkill.

[hummingbird]

"At least Hal will sing you a nice song while he tries to kill you."

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We only have to be faster than HAL.

Let there be a decree to all real persons ------> SPEED TAPDANCING is now a new Olympic sport.

All persons shall go to Speed Tapdancing camps on a regular basis to hone their skills. Kind of like being in the National Guard or military reserve units.

Got to go get new tap shoes this weekend - hope it isn't too late!

[Nifster]

“Google and other Silicon Valley tech companies have attracted the protesters’ ire because sky-high tech salaries have led to sky-high real estate prices in San Francisco, pricing out poorer residents.”....

This statement is pure and unadulterated crap. Real estate has always been pricier in the Bay Area....location location location. And the ‘higher salaries’ have always existed through out the Bay Area because of places like Lockheed, Ames, the various universities, and all of the start up tech companies.

This stupid writer obviously knows nothing of the history of the area. It is always good to ‘blame the rich’. The truth is that Nancy Pelosi and Barbara Boxer make more in congress than most folks earn in tech companies.

Folks are just upset with Google because they actually do seem intrusive. Their photo cars have been the target for all sorts of mischief for a long time

[Nowhere Man]

Of course they will. The elites despise the rest of us. They’re not funding and developing this technology to make life easier for US, it’s to allow them to exist WITHOUT us.

The proclamations of sustainable life on the planet being fewer than 100m humans takes into account that most of the work won’t be done by humans. And once the elites decide they no longer need us...the fun begins.

It's like the old discussion I was in about how the Romans could have developed the steam engine from Hero's invention. The thing back then is human labor was plentiful and slavery was the norm so there was hardly any need for labor saving machines. The demand for machines did not really take off until the time of the Black Death when many people have died and the labor pool shrunk.

[Nowhere Man]

I’m reminded of the opening chapters of the Dune series that discusses such a possibility, the ensuing hostilities and the end result being the elimination of ALL digital technology.

I'm also reminded of the novel version of "Battlestar Galactica" where Caprica and the rest of the colonies had laws in place where most robotic labor was banned if a human can do it. However, I think that was also a reaction to the fact they were fighting the Cylons as well. I know this may not be a conservative/libertarian idea (although Milton Friedman favored it) was everyone gets a guaranteed living wage. My buddy and I discussed this one night and we were talking this could be the future, ala Star Trek. Everyone will got a basic living wage, basic housing, a basic car and so on and if you want more, like in Star Trek, you work for it. Switzerland is already talking about this. Perhaps this is not the solution we like but this may happen out of necessity if jobs go by the wayside along with more mechanization and automation.