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Ukraine unrest: Protesters storm regional offices
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25876807 ^ | Jan 24 2014 | BBC News

Posted on 01/24/2014 10:36:28 AM PST by Ivan Mazepa

Anti-government demonstrators in Ukraine are expanding their protests after talks between the opposition and President Viktor Yanukovych stalled.

In western Ukraine, the activists seized the regional government office in the city of Ivano-Frankivsk and are storming another one in Chernivtsi.

Protests were reported in Lutsk, in the north-west, and Sumy, in the east.

Meanwhile, Mr Yanukovych vowed to use "all legal means" if a solution to the crisis is not found.

At a meeting with religious leaders, he also promised to amend anti-protests laws rushed through parliament last week and reshuffle the government at an urgent session of parliament due to begin on Tuesday. ...

The crisis escalated this week when the first deaths in the unrest happened.

Two protesters were shot during rioting on Hrushevskyy Street near the Maidan. The opposition says they were killed by riot police or snipers - the government denies the claim.

And an activist was found dead in woods near Kiev after apparently being abducted, tortured and left to die in the snow.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: protests; putin; russia; ukraine

1 posted on 01/24/2014 10:36:28 AM PST by Ivan Mazepa
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To: Ivan Mazepa

Go Hutsuls, Go Boykos — I guess the Lemkos are asleep in Poland. LOL


2 posted on 01/24/2014 10:48:23 AM PST by brooklyn dave ( Chris Christie's fat ass for president)
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To: Ivan Mazepa

Welcome to Free Republic!


3 posted on 01/24/2014 10:49:52 AM PST by Old Sarge (TINVOWOOT: There Is No Voting Our Way Out Of This)
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To: Ivan Mazepa

“...Anti-government demonstrators in Ukraine...”
-
Ivan, what do you think they want?


4 posted on 01/24/2014 10:58:55 AM PST by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: Ivan Mazepa

In before Soros’ fault!


5 posted on 01/24/2014 11:04:27 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: Ivan Mazepa
In 25 words or less ... what is the issue ?

Welcome to FreeRepublic.

6 posted on 01/24/2014 11:07:23 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: Ivan Mazepa

But did he say, “...I have a pen and a phone...”??


7 posted on 01/24/2014 11:26:34 AM PST by NEMDF
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To: knarf

Country was about to join the EU, but then Putin intervened and leaders are poised to join it up with Russia again. Opponents seem to be executing a well-orchestrated revolt. Neither side are particularly “good”.


8 posted on 01/24/2014 11:38:58 AM PST by ctdonath2 (Making good people helpless doesn't make bad people harmless.)
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To: Ivan Mazepa
Last night I saw a YouTube video of the protests. It looked like the protesters were firing some kind of missiles at government buildings. Then this morning I saw a picture in the paper of a protester with an armload of 4th of July-style skyrockets. Probably Chinese-made. Worth keeping in mind. We may need to copy that some day soon.
9 posted on 01/24/2014 11:51:44 AM PST by JoeFromSidney (itYe)
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To: Old Sarge

Thanks!


10 posted on 01/24/2014 11:54:05 AM PST by Ivan Mazepa
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To: knarf

Thanks

-Russian puppet president in place
-Protests turned violent when passed legislature outlawing right to protest, free speech and media last week
-3 people killed already

should be 25 words


11 posted on 01/24/2014 11:54:05 AM PST by Ivan Mazepa
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To: Revolting cat!

Good one. Don’t quit your day job


12 posted on 01/24/2014 11:54:05 AM PST by Ivan Mazepa
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To: Ivan Mazepa
Excellent !

To quote those immortal words spoken in "West Side Story" ...

"Y'done GOOD, buddyboy"

13 posted on 01/24/2014 11:56:32 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: Repeal The 17th

They’re calling for
-the “president” and his government to resign,
-to disband the special police forces (Berkut) who killed 3 people earlier in the week
-arrest of the officers responsible for the deaths of these 3

This had been a peaceful protest for two months, but no, they started to kidnap and beat journalists (ex. Chornovol, Lutsenko) then started to beat the regular people, then last week they passed laws disallowing right to protest (you now need approval from the government to do that) and right to free speech and press (you criticize the government, you’re an “extremist”, 6 year prison term for you)

Finally they killed three people on Tuesday, when they had a police crackdown. Two were shot. The other one was taken from a hospital, beaten to death and dumped outside the city.

That’s about it, welcome to Ukraine


14 posted on 01/24/2014 12:04:47 PM PST by Ivan Mazepa
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To: Ivan Mazepa

Kiev live feed of protest stand off: (not of buildings being stormed):

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3115302/posts


15 posted on 01/24/2014 12:05:25 PM PST by Rebelbase (Tagline: optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: Rebelbase

Water cannons would put a stop to that riot.


16 posted on 01/24/2014 12:10:49 PM PST by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: Ivan Mazepa
Welcome to FR.

5.56mm

17 posted on 01/24/2014 12:10:50 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: Ivan Mazepa

Have you seen any international media, other than The Beeb, reporting on the revolt?

Is anyone else there besides these players?

Reports of troops or police in further crackdowns?


18 posted on 01/24/2014 12:14:42 PM PST by Old Sarge (TINVOWOOT: There Is No Voting Our Way Out Of This)
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To: AppyPappy

Yanuconvict already tried water cannons against the protestors. It didn’t work.


19 posted on 01/24/2014 12:14:44 PM PST by Agog
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To: Agog

It’s supposed to be -6 tonight there. That’s a pretty good discouragement.


20 posted on 01/24/2014 12:15:34 PM PST by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: JoeFromSidney

No, no missiles yet. They’re using rocks, molotovs, fireworks, burning tires. They don’t have the gun rights like in the US, but probably few guys here and there have a gun ready. Right now both sides negotiating. The government is playing stupid: “We didn’t use live ammunition” but everybody knows what happened.


21 posted on 01/24/2014 12:18:44 PM PST by Ivan Mazepa
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To: Ivan Mazepa

Thank you for your reply.


22 posted on 01/24/2014 12:20:48 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: Ivan Mazepa

They just launched some fireworks.


23 posted on 01/24/2014 12:22:56 PM PST by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: Old Sarge

Yeah, very disturbing with the international response. Russia, through its puppet Yanukovich, is trying to get control over Ukraine - and there’s almost no reaction. EU is useless, they’re afraid of Russians; Obama hasn’t said a word. The only friends Ukraine has are Poland and the Baltic states who know what to expect from Russians.

I wish I was the one to come up with this comparison, but in many ways this is similar to 1938 when world powers surrendered Chechoslovakia to Hitler. They thought Hitler would be happy with it, but he didn’t stop. Russia will not stop if it swallows Ukraine, next will be the Baltic states, then Poland

It’s a little quiet today but they continue to exert pressure on the demonstrators, ex. they’re making statements that everybody making calls to overthrow the “constitutional order” (?!?) is facing 6 years.


24 posted on 01/24/2014 12:56:24 PM PST by Ivan Mazepa
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To: Ivan Mazepa
The only friends Ukraine has are Poland

Poles are a bit worried because some of these Ukrainian groups opposing the Russians also worship Stepan Bandera.

25 posted on 01/24/2014 12:57:41 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Ivan Mazepa

I don’t think Russia has the ability to hold onto Ukraine now. They have a hard enough time with the Muslims in their own country.

Russia had the loyalty of the people in the rest of the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact. They no longer have that. In the days of the Internet, it’s hard to keep things secret.


26 posted on 01/24/2014 1:02:32 PM PST by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: AppyPappy

I hope you’re right.
Yet, Putin doesn’t need to control Ukraine directly, he can have his stooge Ya. running things. Uprising? why waste Russian soldiers, you can just send Ukrainian riot police.

As for the Internet, it’s still how how you manipulate the information.
So couple of days ago, when they had their first deaths, the government channel hasn’t mentioned them at all. Instead they had an expert who was telling how bad for the environment it is that the protesters are burning tires. You have three human beings who have lost their lives, gone and this vomit is talking about air pollution.
Or yesterday, with the footage of the police parading a beaten protester nude - their talking point today is, the man wanted to set himself on fire, that’s why they had to take his clothes off. Makes sense, right? and the injuries on his face, hands and body - he slipped on ice. twice


27 posted on 01/24/2014 1:49:22 PM PST by Ivan Mazepa
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To: Ivan Mazepa

“you can just send Ukrainian riot police.”

Because ultimately they can’t be trusted.


28 posted on 01/24/2014 1:51:49 PM PST by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: Ivan Mazepa

>>>No, no missiles yet. They’re using rocks, molotovs, fireworks, burning tires. They don’t have the gun rights like in the US, but probably few guys here and there have a gun ready. Right now both sides negotiating. The government is playing stupid: “We didn’t use live ammunition” but everybody knows what happened.<<<

LOL. Molotovs, burning tires are used against the police and you are complaining about live ammo?
“three people killed by gbmnt”? At least one of them has fallen to his death while climbing on the wall and I’d like to see an autopsy for the rest. A lot of thugs with handguns are seen in pictures among “peaceful protesters”.


29 posted on 01/24/2014 3:43:32 PM PST by cunning_fish
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To: cunning_fish

Autopsies have already been done on three. One had a 7.62 mm sniper shot, second one 9mm. But that’s ok, Azarov said they don’t use those ones.

Third one was beaten to death

” One well-known activist, Yuri Verbitsky, was found dead in the woods outside the capital. He and a colleague, Igor Lutsenko, had been taken to the woods from a Kiev hospital as part of a broader action in which police and plain-clothed thugs rounded up wounded rioters. Lutsenko, who says he was severely beaten, made his way back to the city. Police say Verbitsky died from exposure, not from the obvious injuries found on his body...”

http://rt.com/news/ukraine-riot-police-diplomats-013/
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-01-23/ukraine-s-capital-descends-into-chaos.html


30 posted on 01/24/2014 4:16:17 PM PST by Ivan Mazepa
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To: Ivan Mazepa

“(you criticize the government, you’re an “extremist”, 6 year prison term for you)”

NY’s Cuomo is 2 for 3 and well on his way.


31 posted on 01/25/2014 4:51:46 AM PST by ctdonath2 (Making good people helpless doesn't make bad people harmless.)
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