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GOP adopts changes to 2016 presidential primary process
CNN.com ^ | 01/24/2014 | Peter Hamby

Posted on 01/24/2014 11:06:55 AM PST by GIdget2004

The Republican National Committee gave near-unanimous approval Friday to a package of rules changes that would condense the 2016 presidential nominating calendar and help the party avoid the kind of protracted party infighting that dented GOP nominee Mitt Romney's general election appeal in 2012.

The changes dovetail with the party's desire to move the convention from late summer to a June window, which would make the next Republican National Convention the earliest convention in either party since 1948. The RNC has announced its support for the June move but will formally vote on the change at a later date.

"This is an historic day for our party," RNC Chairman Reince Priebus said after the vote....

The party is also taking steps to exert more control over Republican primary debates their moderators, but has yet to formalize any changes.

The rules changes, first reported by CNN in December, protect the traditional role of four early voting states while enacting harsh penalties against states that choose to hold early primaries or caucuses in violation of RNC rules. Those first four states – Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina and Nevada – will hold their primary and caucus contests in February of 2016.

To prevent other states from jumping the order and compelling the first four to move their dates even earlier in January, as they did in 2012, any state that attempts to hold its nominating contest in February would have their number of delegates to the convention slashed to just nine people or, in the case of smaller states, one-third of their delegation - whichever number is smaller.

"It's the death penalty," said one RNC member.

(Excerpt) Read more at politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush2016; goprules; karlrove; reincepriebus; rncrules

1 posted on 01/24/2014 11:06:55 AM PST by GIdget2004
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To: GIdget2004

for starters there shouldn’t be any open primaries—only registered GOP can vote in GOP primary —dems should be the same way.


2 posted on 01/24/2014 11:11:35 AM PST by brooklyn dave ( Chris Christie's fat ass for president)
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To: GIdget2004

The Tea Party should hold their own convention one month prior to the GOP.


3 posted on 01/24/2014 11:11:53 AM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: GIdget2004
while enacting harsh penalties against states that choose to hold early primaries or caucuses in violation of RNC rules

They seated all of Florida's delegates, despite the rule saying 1/2 shouldn't have been seated.

And still nothing about closing the primaries.

More GOP-E power grabs. Glad I'm not a republican.

/johnny

4 posted on 01/24/2014 11:12:12 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: GIdget2004

So....a ChristieJebBushHuckabeeRyanWhoeverGOPslime approved slate of states that have too long controlled the voter narrative.

Frankly, if you add up the populations of those states, and then add up the numbers of Republicans or conservatives, they wouldn’t come close to anything like Texas or any other large conservative state. This is a damned travesty of conspiratorial deceit that needs to stop!

I’m sick of subsidized farmers (ethanol), free thinkers and crazy nuts controlling the starting gate, myself.


5 posted on 01/24/2014 11:13:10 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: brooklyn dave
for starters there shouldn’t be any open primaries—only registered GOP can vote in GOP primary —dems should be the same way.

A number of states don't have party registration.
6 posted on 01/24/2014 11:13:14 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (The only thing that can save us is if Kerry wins the Nobel prize and leaves us alone.--Moshe Yaalon)
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To: brooklyn dave

Nest reduce the number of primary election dates from 15 to 1. I am sick of giving Iowa and NH and SC so much say so in who will be the GOP presidential candidate.


7 posted on 01/24/2014 11:14:49 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: GIdget2004

Sure wouldn’t want the elitist choice to be dented


8 posted on 01/24/2014 11:16:33 AM PST by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Dr. Sivana

that’s dumb


9 posted on 01/24/2014 11:17:12 AM PST by brooklyn dave
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To: Hostage
The Tea Party should hold their own convention one month prior to the GOP.

At first glance this seems symbolic only. But upon further reflection, some united statement coming out of a "Tea Party Convention" about who conservatives should vote for could have a chance to affect the eventual nominee. If we could at least get all conservatives voting for he same guy, it might reduce the dilution of votes that always get the establishment and media "their guy".

10 posted on 01/24/2014 11:18:49 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (My whimsical litany of satyric prose and avarice pontification of wisdom demonstrates my concinnity.)
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To: brooklyn dave
that’s dumb

It may well be, but it is also the law, and cannot be changed by the party alone. (The Republicans could go to a caucus format, which might help in those states.)
11 posted on 01/24/2014 11:21:13 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (The only thing that can save us is if Kerry wins the Nobel prize and leaves us alone.--Moshe Yaalon)
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To: GIdget2004
GOP now stands for Grand Old Pussies.

"Obama did what? Hillary did what? Well we gotta take action on this!!!"


12 posted on 01/24/2014 11:21:24 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: brooklyn dave

Some places have no “Party” voter registration.


13 posted on 01/24/2014 11:21:59 AM PST by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: brooklyn dave

You’re calling Texas dumb!...from NY? LOL


14 posted on 01/24/2014 11:22:33 AM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: GIdget2004

You’ll allow Bob Dole to run again with Mitt Romney as his Veep pick?


15 posted on 01/24/2014 11:23:23 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: brooklyn dave

Stayin in Nuevo York is really dumb. They rest of us are OK with no party registration.


16 posted on 01/24/2014 11:25:04 AM PST by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: GIdget2004

The GOP-TP should select the Republican candidate. Then, during the November elections, the GOP-e can state their preference.


17 posted on 01/24/2014 11:26:02 AM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: GIdget2004

Team Romney is in control, and do not be surprised
to see another chosen LOSER.

Any doubt?

Boehner. McConnell. Failure. Abrogation. Treason.


18 posted on 01/24/2014 11:31:24 AM PST by Diogenesis
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To: brooklyn dave

You may want to go to the following site and scan for the states with open/closed
primaries, etc. It’s a mixed bag amongst the states for sure. Scroll down to
the bottom for a listing by state.

http://www.brennancenter.org/sites/default/files/publications/VRM%20Party%20Affiliation.pdf


19 posted on 01/24/2014 11:32:59 AM PST by deport
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To: GIdget2004
The 'early' primaries (held in February) should be abolished.

There should not be 'open' primaries, either. A voter should be a registered member of the party to vote in that party's primary. That is logical and could help avoid the kind of mischief that too often occurs in 'open' primaries where Democrats vote in droves for the least conservative candidate on the party ballot. Yes, Republicans have been known to do something similar (vote for the most liberal Democrat running) but the majority of this kind of shenanigans occurs in the GOP 'open' primaries.

It's another way the left sabotages conservative candidates along with the usual establishment games that have the same goal. It's how we get a McCain or even a Romney as the Republican candidate or, as I call them, the GOP-designated loser.

20 posted on 01/24/2014 11:36:09 AM PST by Jim Scott
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To: GIdget2004

Rule #1: If you are not acceptable to the ruling elite, you cannot be a candidate.


21 posted on 01/24/2014 11:37:16 AM PST by Rocky (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. George Orwell)
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To: Tenacious 1

It can be done and I believe more easily than most would at first think.

For example, the Tea Party Convention could be a hybrid virtual convention where state TP delegations attend state convention centers with all conventions tied together in live video. No need to make one city the epicenter.

In addition to nominating a TP conservative a TP convention could adopt a platform.

Here’s why I think it’s a feasible and potent proposal:

The loose assemblage of Tea Party organizations has in the past and can again represent nearly 70 million Americans comprising conservatives, independents, libertarians, the blue collar Perot Bloc (more than 6 million) and Reagan democrats (more than 7 million). There will also be a significant bloc of voters that go with their perception of who will be a winner.

These numbers are possible and even probable given the grievances that most Americans have with both political parties today.

Republicans such as Sarah Palin, Ted Cruz, Mike Lee and other recent TP champions can attend both conventions. But their presence at the TP Convention one month before that of the GOP will empower them to be movers and shakers in the latter.


22 posted on 01/24/2014 11:37:50 AM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I agree. Three debates and one, single-day primary.


23 posted on 01/24/2014 11:38:15 AM PST by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants; ScottinVA
Nest reduce the number of primary election dates from 15 to 1. I am sick of giving Iowa and NH and SC so much say so in who will be the GOP presidential candidate.

If what you want is the candidate with the deepest pockets and establishment support to win, that's the way to insure he wins.

24 posted on 01/24/2014 11:43:04 AM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media -- IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: okie01

States response. You cut our delegates, we don’t put you on the ballot and you are not welcome to campaign here.


25 posted on 01/24/2014 11:48:05 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz ("The GOP fights its own base with far more vigor than it employs in fighting the Dims.")
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To: Hostage

I’ve been floating the same idea for about a month now.

Tea party gets behind one in the beginning. Much easier to beat the GOPe that way.

maybe even send a GOPe ringer in too.


26 posted on 01/24/2014 11:48:18 AM PST by cableguymn (It's time for a second political party.)
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To: GIdget2004
help the party avoid the kind of protracted party infighting that dented GOP nominee Mitt Romney's general election appeal in 2012.

Mitt Romney needed no help in that regard.

27 posted on 01/24/2014 11:48:25 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: EQAndyBuzz

I believe you were addressing your post to somebody else.


28 posted on 01/24/2014 11:50:20 AM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media -- IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Tenacious 1
The Tea Party should hold their own convention one month prior to the GOP the first GOP state primary election.

At first glance this seems symbolic only. But upon further reflection, some united statement coming out of a "Tea Party Convention" about who conservatives should vote for could have a chance to affect the eventual nominee. If we could at least get all conservatives voting for he same guy, it might reduce the dilution of votes that always get the establishment and media "their guy".

This is a great idea. Heck, this is better than a great idea. This just might work.

29 posted on 01/24/2014 11:53:05 AM PST by meadsjn
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To: meadsjn; Jim Robinson
This is a great idea. Heck, this is better than a great idea. This just might work

It might be worth some of us sending out some letters to state Tea Party Organizers, Levine, Limbaugh, Palin, Etc.

THIS is important, however.... NO POLITICIANS ARE ALLOWED AT THE CONVENTION. We could have speakers there, but it needs to be organized in a way that is functional and actually debates and vets the candidates. The mission would be to finish a "convention" with an announcement that "encourages" all Tea Party Supporters and Conservatives to vote for one candidate.

You should post this as a new stand alone Vanity post. Some great things have come out of FR. Long shot maybe, but hey, who knows. JimRob knows some folks I'm sure.

30 posted on 01/24/2014 12:07:55 PM PST by Tenacious 1 (My whimsical litany of satyric prose and avarice pontification of wisdom demonstrates my concinnity.)
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To: GIdget2004

Great idea to have the convention in June in the summer while more people are paying attention to politics.


31 posted on 01/24/2014 12:10:41 PM PST by Oliviaforever
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To: Hostage

I’d have to give it more consideration as this is a pretty fresh idea. But, initially, I would think a single (large) gathering with assumed representatives from all over the country in one place, void of political influence from potential nominees, would lend more credence to an affirmation of one candidate than several events that could be watered down by the MSM as “rallies”.

Worse, if there were different nominees chosen at different “conventions” if they did not get organized enough to link on the same day at the same time, we could do more harm than good. And if we insisted on speakers, they’d want to be at all of them to get their mug out there (politicians I mean).

This seems like a big idea brewed in a tiny lab here. Without some legs, starting with FReepers, I’m not sure it’ll get anywhere past this thread.

As I told another, and CC’d JimRob, it might be good to post this idea as a vanity thread topic. FReepers are pretty smart and collectively might be able to move some levers.


32 posted on 01/24/2014 12:14:09 PM PST by Tenacious 1 (My whimsical litany of satyric prose and avarice pontification of wisdom demonstrates my concinnity.)
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To: okie01

Except for Reagan, the current process has given us by “compassionate conservatives” and moderates. Not one of had the slightest concern about really reducing the size and power of the central government.


33 posted on 01/24/2014 12:25:22 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
You cut our delegates, we don’t put you on the ballot and you are not welcome to campaign here.

Excellent! That is giving the GOP-e some of their own medicine.

Let them dangle out there with their pampered powdered princes.

34 posted on 01/24/2014 12:45:33 PM PST by Syncro ("So?" - -Andrew Breitbart --The King of All Media RIP Feb 1, 1969 to Mar 1, 2012)
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To: Hostage
But their presence at the TP Convention one month before that of the GOP will empower them

One month prior to the GOP Convention is six months too late! and would be just blowing smoke.

The state primaries will begin in February, and that is when the delegate accumulation begins.

Whatever the TEA Party does to consolidate its vote will need to be done, at the latest, before any early voting begins in the earliest primary, probably one month prior, or by the middle of January 2014.

35 posted on 01/24/2014 1:16:39 PM PST by meadsjn
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To: meadsjn

Good point but you meant ‘by the middle of January ***2016***’.

Took the idea over to this thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3115314/posts


36 posted on 01/24/2014 1:26:25 PM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: meadsjn

“...by the middle of January 2014...”
-
Oops.
Too late!


37 posted on 01/24/2014 1:26:58 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: GIdget2004

What a crock of crap.


38 posted on 01/24/2014 1:30:16 PM PST by Fledermaus (If we here in TN can't get rid of the worthless Lamar, it's over.)
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To: Hostage
Good point but you meant ‘by the middle of January ***2016***’.

Yeah, 2016, that's what I meant. Aren't we all in a big hurry to toss obunga out?

39 posted on 01/24/2014 1:31:56 PM PST by meadsjn
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To: GIdget2004

I suspect this is related to the establishment party types getting behind one squish candidate early with a lot of money and hoping no conservative candidate has a chance to emerge by that time.

If the establishment guys had their thoughts on the general rather than the primary election, they would focus on who moderates the debates and not letting Dims vote in Republican primaries.

But they would rather be beaten by a Dim than by a conservative.


40 posted on 01/24/2014 2:27:27 PM PST by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Except for Reagan, the current process has given us by “compassionate conservatives” and moderates. Not one of had the slightest concern about really reducing the size and power of the central government.

True. But you're not going to get the next Reagan by converting to a national primary -- which gives the establishment favorite and the candidate with the most money going in what amounts to an insuperable advantage.

Had the 2012 GOP candidacy been resolved by a national primary, Romney wouldn't have had to break a ssweat. Going in, he had the establishment support and the money to mount a nationwide advertising campaign and build a staff and GOTV effort in enough states to cinch the win.

Rick Santorum eventually finished 2nd...but he did it by going into Iowa on a shoestring, eking out a win, which earned him some morer financial support...which he turned into a win in some Midwestern states...which earned him some more financial support...which got him a few Southeastern states.

In a national primary, he would've eked out a win in Iowa...and that would've been it.

You can safely assume that the next Reagan will probably not be the establishment darling...and he may not have the deepest pockets. The present system provides him with a way to win -- if we conservatives unite behind him early.

Of course, there has to be a "next Reagan" running --- and have you seen anybody actually run that fit that definition over the past five or six election cycles?

41 posted on 01/24/2014 4:24:07 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media -- IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

What is needed, required in fact, is a Conservative secondary.

The candidate to represent Conservative wing of the Party in the Republican Primary would come pre selected by conservatives in the secondary.


42 posted on 01/24/2014 4:29:10 PM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: okie01

“Of course, there has to be a “next Reagan” running -— and have you seen anybody actually run that fit that definition over the past five or six election cycles? “

Yes, I have, but they have gotten no traction in the primaries.


43 posted on 01/24/2014 5:20:14 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Yes, I have, but they have gotten no traction in the primaries.

Would you mind sharing?

44 posted on 01/24/2014 5:21:58 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media -- IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: okie01

Can’t remember anyone right now except Alan Keyes.


45 posted on 01/24/2014 5:26:22 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Can’t remember anyone right now except Alan Keyes.

I'd hardly call him the "next Reagan". He might've had the right policies, but he never had a significant body of support anywhere on the right.

Isn't it reasonable to say that, to be a viable candidate, one must bring not only some good ideas, but some financial support and some supporters with one's self?

46 posted on 01/24/2014 5:52:52 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media -- IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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