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White House rejects review board finding that NSA data sweep is illegal
Fox News ^ | January 23, 2014 | (With AP)

Posted on 01/24/2014 7:31:41 PM PST by Olog-hai

The White House on Thursday disputed the findings of an independent review board that said the National Security Agency’s mass data collection program is illegal and should be ended, indicating the administration would not be taking that advice.

“We simply disagree with the board’s analysis on the legality of the program,” White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said.

He was responding to a scathing report from The Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board (PCLOB), which said the program ran afoul of the law on several fronts.

“The … bulk telephone records program lacks a viable legal foundation,” the board’s report said, adding that it raises “serious threats to privacy and civil liberties” and has “only limited value.” The report, further, said the NSA should “purge” the files. …

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: nsa; nsareviewboard; nsascandals; obama; pclob; yeswescan

1 posted on 01/24/2014 7:31:41 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Predicable


2 posted on 01/24/2014 7:34:21 PM PST by doc1019
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To: doc1019

This is one of those moments in history, isn’t it?


3 posted on 01/24/2014 7:36:53 PM PST by FreeperCell
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To: Olog-hai

We don’t need no steenking laws


4 posted on 01/24/2014 7:37:48 PM PST by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Olog-hai

One control is established by the state, it’s not going away (without revolution).


5 posted on 01/24/2014 7:39:45 PM PST by uncommonsense (Liberals see what they believe; Conservatives believe what they see.)
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To: uncommonsense

One = Once


6 posted on 01/24/2014 7:40:39 PM PST by uncommonsense (Liberals see what they believe; Conservatives believe what they see.)
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To: Olog-hai

The Plan:

DOJ + NSA + IRS = KGB


7 posted on 01/24/2014 7:41:23 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: FreeperCell
This is one of those moments in history, isn’t it?

I think we've crossed the line. Not just this situation, but a number of recent incidents. The government has thrown out the laws. Like the UK, we now have an unwritten constitution -- the administration is running wild now and will not be easily stopped.

8 posted on 01/24/2014 7:42:03 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Anti-Complacency League! Baby!)
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To: Olog-hai

>> The Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board (PCLOB)... said the program ran afoul of the law on several fronts.

Well, the PCLOB built the case. It remains for someone to take the case they have built to trial.

Would Ubama subject his imperial self to the outcome of the trial?


9 posted on 01/24/2014 7:43:43 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: FreeperCell

Jay Carney hasn’t been at a real WH meeting since he hired on, the little parasite.


10 posted on 01/24/2014 7:43:55 PM PST by relictele (Principiis obsta & Finem respice - Resist The Beginnings & Consider The End)
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To: Olog-hai

The whole federal government is way out of control and drunk on power!


11 posted on 01/24/2014 7:46:02 PM PST by plainshame
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To: plainshame

“...drunk on the blood of saints”


12 posted on 01/24/2014 7:49:12 PM PST by null and void (We need to shake this snowglobe up.)
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To: Olog-hai

Most Americans reject Zer0.


13 posted on 01/24/2014 7:52:43 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Travis McGee

14 posted on 01/24/2014 7:53:58 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Olog-hai

Obama: We don’t need no steeenking laws!


15 posted on 01/24/2014 7:58:19 PM PST by llevrok (Obama 2008 : "If you vote for me, you can keep your country")
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To: Olog-hai

Is this where we can use the phrase “speaking truth to power”, or is that reserved for Libs criticizing Republican presidents?


16 posted on 01/24/2014 8:09:31 PM PST by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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To: Nachum

Ping


17 posted on 01/24/2014 8:12:00 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: plainshame

My take, is it’s a house of cards. After all our trouble. I don’t think we are going to have to do anything. I think the whole thing is going to collapse on itself. I don’t see army’s marching. It reminds me of Woodrow Wilson’s last days.


18 posted on 01/24/2014 8:54:59 PM PST by FreeperCell
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19 posted on 01/24/2014 8:56:09 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Olog-hai
Too bad Bush isn't still President. I'm sure the media would love to jump all over this, but not when their selected boy-king is in office.

They'll sit on this until a Repub takes office, then, like the homeless, this will magically reappear and be made to look like his fault.

20 posted on 01/24/2014 9:03:36 PM PST by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: FreeperCell

Democrats like living in the past.


21 posted on 01/24/2014 9:08:42 PM PST by plainshame
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To: Olog-hai

I’m going to use this defense next time I get in trouble with the law.


22 posted on 01/24/2014 9:42:28 PM PST by Organic Panic
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To: Olog-hai

Do f’n tell.


23 posted on 01/24/2014 9:50:15 PM PST by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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The NSA is just a machine. It’s our “representatives” that are responsible for the alleged violations. Too bad Snowden only described the caliber of the machine and not the description of the perpetrators — figuratively speaking.


24 posted on 01/24/2014 9:57:51 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: FreeperCell
army’s armies marching
25 posted on 01/25/2014 1:30:29 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Olog-hai

Didn’t this administration, not only continue but ratcheted up on the NSA data gathering? How come that little tidbit has not been discussed?


26 posted on 01/25/2014 4:35:42 AM PST by Cyclone59 (Where are we going, and what's with the handbasket?)
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To: Olog-hai

Another “FU, we got our EO to override any inconvenient legal decisions/laws” moment...


27 posted on 01/25/2014 4:43:39 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Olog-hai

I have been carefully watching and re watching the Wire. In the episode 11 season 2, the cops take a sopeana to the cell phone company requesting the number called from a specific GPS located point at a specific time.

The phone company guy informed them that the incident was the first time that GPS/time data had been used to pinpoint a call. He asked for the warrant. They had no warrant, just the sopena. He said with that, you get the number. With a warrant you get all the text messages for the last 60 days.

This program was produced in I believe 2002. The legality of what is what has been known for a very long time.

As best I can tell from news reports, the current flap is over collection of metadata that is developed and held by third parties.It is not private information stored either in one’s home or office or auto or castle. Unlike the actual voice or text message nothing of substance is learned that is private. One of the Wire themes is that if you are criminal you need to use phones with care because they leak when tapped. The cops go to great legal lengths to get taps to listen but have no real problems with locating and observing specific cell and land line phones.

Unless Congress makes the metadata gathering illegal, the process will continue. Only bad guys need fear the process.

The problem is not the process but the tyrannical despots. To solve the problem, the despot must be deposed.


28 posted on 01/25/2014 4:53:08 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: Olog-hai

Sure, just as the WH rejects the United States Constitution.


29 posted on 01/25/2014 5:51:48 AM PST by abclily
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