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To: Sherman Logan
My example has nothing to do with terrorism unless you think giving the POTUS the sole power to decide who is and is not considered a terrorist.

Let us say you had a business deal with Nancy and she stiffed you for 10 million bucks. You get angry and in a fit of rage hit her across the face and she falls and hits her head and dies. Regardless you flee on you sailboat and Obama hears the cry from Chuckie Schumer as he whips the populace up and they scream for your blood.

Now explain WHY Obama can't just blow you ass to Kingdom Come with a drone strike?

You claim the Constitution stops at the border.

It either does or it doesn't. What part of the Constitution stops Obama from doing such? No one will know outside of a few military people and the Joint Chiefs. No foreign government will know. So can the POTUS waste your ass and then go have lunch? OR does the Joint Chiefs have a duty to say Nope Can't do it because it violates this man's Constitutional Rights?

38 posted on 01/25/2014 11:31:44 AM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Mad Dawgg

Fleeing on my sailboat I suspect the Navy, or even the Coasties, could intercept and return me for trial. :)

I think the relevant issue is that the Constitution does not grant the President any such power. So while he might very well be able to do it, he would have no legal right to do so.

I do not claim that there are no constitutional restrictions on the president outside the USA, only that 4A does not apply for customs searches. Unless someone can find some evidence that warrants have EVER been required for customs searches, I think my point stands. This is not a new infringement on constitutional rights by the Obama administration, it is an extension of what the law has been since the Founding. Possibly an over-extension, to be sure.

As another example, the Coast Guard routinely stops, boards and searches ships. No warrant needed.

A couple years ago, a friend and I were returning from a 3 hour tour on his 26’ sailboat when the Coasties pulled up. They came aboard and searched pretty thoroughly. No warrant. This was FL coast.


40 posted on 01/25/2014 11:40:02 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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