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Legislators want students who canít read to be held back
Capitol Journal ^ | January 22, 2014 | Bob Mercer

Posted on 01/25/2014 4:20:31 PM PST by kingattax

A state lawmaker from Perkins County (South Dakota) wants to require that first- and second-grade students show they are proficient at reading before they can advance to the next grade.

“I brought the bill at the request of my school board in Eagle Butte,” Rep. Betty Olson, R-Prairie City, said.

The House Education Committee hasn’t scheduled a hearing yet for HB 1067. The bill doesn’t name a specific assessment or test that should be used.

“They’ll have to figure that out,” Olson said.

(Excerpt) Read more at capjournal.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: South Dakota
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kids are in school to learn to read ? whose idea was that ?
1 posted on 01/25/2014 4:20:31 PM PST by kingattax
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To: kingattax

Try this in Detroit and see what happens.


2 posted on 01/25/2014 4:28:11 PM PST by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: kingattax

Will be hailed as a great idea until the first minority student is held back; then the SHTF


3 posted on 01/25/2014 4:29:04 PM PST by ZOOKER (Until further notice the /s is implied...)
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To: kingattax

well duhHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH?


4 posted on 01/25/2014 4:29:48 PM PST by dforest
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To: kingattax; vette6387; freekitty; unkus; JLAGRAYFOX; ZULU; rodguy911; mazda77; nutmeg; ...

How about politicians who can’t and won’t read bills like the DeathCare bill before they voted YES??? It’s appropriate for them to be sent packing in 2014 by We The People, ya think?


5 posted on 01/25/2014 4:30:36 PM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: kingattax

Why do we need a law for this? This used to be school/district policy when I grew up. There were probably half a dozen kids or more who got held back in our journey from 1st through 12th grade. (that’s out of a graduating class of about 230)


6 posted on 01/25/2014 4:33:19 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: ExTexasRedhead
How about politicians who can’t and won’t read bills like the DeathCare bill before they voted YES??? It’s appropriate for them to be sent packing in 2014 by We The People, ya think?

I had this exact thought! Complete neglect of duty!!!

7 posted on 01/25/2014 4:36:17 PM PST by Faith
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To: ZOOKER
thank you...
8 posted on 01/25/2014 4:40:22 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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9 posted on 01/25/2014 4:41:16 PM PST by RedMDer (Happy with this, America? Make your voices heard. 2014 is just around the corner. ~ Sarah Palin)
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To: kingattax

This was snuck into a “comprehensive” education reform bill introduced and passed on the last day of legislative business about ten or fifteen years ago here in Missouri. I say “snuck”, because like Obamacare, no one had actually read the bill. Anyway about 3 months later, the feature was discovered. Children who could not read at the third-grade level would not be allowed into fourth grade.

People started doing the math. Next year’s third grade would be nearly twice as big as this year’s while fourth grade classes would be much smaller. In a few years elementary schools would find more than half of their student bodies in third grade—some of them might be shaving!

So, the Department of Elementary and Secondary Education told schools that they could just ignore that part of the education reform bill (sound familiar?) until the General Assembly came to its senses and repealed that provision—which they eventually did.

As good as the idea might sound—requiring students to be able to actually read at grade level before being passed on—there would be some school districts that would have few, if any high school students, let alone high school graduates. And much more importantly, what would it do to the sports programs?


10 posted on 01/25/2014 4:41:30 PM PST by hanamizu
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To: kingattax

I know this is South Dakota, but for a lot of schools, if it covered more than 1st or 2nd grade, there would be a lot of hold back kids. Even 11th and 12th graders.


11 posted on 01/25/2014 4:42:20 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (Over production, one of the top 5 worries for the American Farmer every year.)
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To: kingattax
The Founding States had made the 10th Amendment to clarify in general that the Constitution's silence about things like public schooling means that such issues are automatically uniquely state power issues. In other words, the states have never delegated to the feds, via the Constitution, the specific power to regulate, tax and spend for public school purposes.

So state lawmaker Betty Olson's bill is a good example of the proposed exercising of unique state powers.

Also, since we're talking about basic educational standards, all early grade school students should be taught to demonstrate basic proficiency in the following.

Regarding the federal government's constitutionally limited powers, young children probably aren't going to get a grip on such ideas right away. However, teachers could teach simple things like the school building was paid for and built by the local community, while aircraft carriers were paid for by the whole nation.

12 posted on 01/25/2014 4:57:32 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: umgud

NOT LIKELY IN CALIFORNIA...


13 posted on 01/25/2014 5:02:03 PM PST by ptsal (Repubicans swallowing more kool-aide from Rove & Kristol)
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To: kingattax

Why do legislators even NEED to address this issue? Aren’t illiterate kids ALREADY held back?!??!


14 posted on 01/25/2014 5:17:57 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: hanamizu

“And much more importantly, what would it do to the sports programs?”

I dunno, but my guess is Detroits 3rd grade basketball team would be legendary.


15 posted on 01/25/2014 5:29:28 PM PST by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%)
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To: umgud

This will definitely be deemed racist because it falls mainly on children of minorities. Yes, even in South Dakota.

You’re very right that it wouldn’t be tolerated in Detroit even though the illiteracy rate is probably much worse there. In Detroit even the ‘teachers’ are functionally illiterate.


16 posted on 01/25/2014 5:54:09 PM PST by Bullish (America should yank Obama like a rotten tooth before he poisons the entire body)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Aren’t illiterate kids ALREADY held back?!??!

Absolutely not! Illiterate 'kids' are given high school diplomas these days just because they showed up to school enough days. They can't read or do even simple math, they know nothing at all about science or physics and they still get a high school diploma.... But they can slam dunk a basketball.

17 posted on 01/25/2014 6:05:01 PM PST by Bullish (America should yank Obama like a rotten tooth before he poisons the entire body)
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To: kingattax
Maryland wanted to promote our son into the 8th grade even though he could not read. We asked that he be held back. They replied "We have a NO FAIL POLICY".

Does that mean he could graduate without being able to read"?? They replied "We have a no fail policy".

In other words, YES.

We took him out and homeschooled him. He was able to read after one year at a 5th grade level (Tested).

The school system said he would never go to college.

He graduated from Valley Forge Military Colleges with an associates in Criminology.

Fooey on the Liberal School Systems.

18 posted on 01/25/2014 6:08:50 PM PST by sr4402
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To: kingattax

Read a Book....(caution language)...

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GlKL_EpnSp8


19 posted on 01/25/2014 6:17:34 PM PST by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Good point. Couldn’t agree more.


20 posted on 01/25/2014 6:20:58 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Bullish
They can't read or do even simple math, they know nothing at all about science or physics and they still get a high school diploma.

Thank the Supreme Court for making high-school diplomas worthless.

21 posted on 01/25/2014 6:29:19 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: kingattax

Outside of school, it takes 30 hours to teach a kid to read.

If a kid can’t read after three years in school, it seems like the teacher is the one who should be held back.


22 posted on 01/25/2014 7:19:14 PM PST by AZLiberty (No tag today.)
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To: kingattax

Rachael Janteal claims she has a 3.0 gpa, yet she can’t read.


23 posted on 01/25/2014 7:29:13 PM PST by Vehmgericht
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To: kingattax

What goes around, comes around!

Let’s see, my schooling in the forties required me to be able to read, same in the fifties, sixties, and seventies.

Then, sometime after LBJ, everyone needed to feel good about themselves, and advanced, and whatever. Ebonics became an accepted language, yet books still were written in a dumbed down English, that the hood didn’t understand.

So schools stopped using books and relied on teachers from the “hood” to motivate the students - students that were too focused on Lathisha’s booty to look at the blackboard (blackboard=racist).

Now, ain’t nobody know nothing, as they be focused on their Obamaphone to send tweets in their own language to the hoodies about hookin’ up after school, as there ain’t no jobs to go to, and ain’t no motivation to start your own business, like window washing, or whatever!

Wow! Dem Russian Commies had themselves a good deal!


24 posted on 01/25/2014 7:34:24 PM PST by Noob1999 (Loose Lips, Sink Ships)
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To: Noob1999

Illiteracy was the first step in the decline of our civilization in the forties, eventually ending up in low information voters in the 21st century. This is so obvious it had to be planned.


25 posted on 01/25/2014 7:58:46 PM PST by Liberty Wins ( The average lefty is synapse challenged)
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To: SoFloFreeper
"Why do legislators even NEED to address this issue? Aren’t illiterate kids ALREADY held back?!??! "

Unfortunately, they are not. I am trying to teach science to high school juniors and seniors. Many of them have appalling reading, writing and math skills. Between lack of academic skills and poor work ethic, it's often a struggle.

26 posted on 01/25/2014 8:31:48 PM PST by Think free or die
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To: kingattax
My 8-year-old granddaughter reads a grade or two above her level of schooling. Her Mom started reading to the kids at early ages and we all supplied learning tools/games for birthdays/Christmas. The schools around the nation suck, but good parenting works wonders - even down here in "backwater" Mississippi....where teachers aren't afraid of even real guns and aren't afraid to invoke God as the Creator and Jesus as His Savior gift to us.

Looks like clinging to God/guns/Bibles is a winning combination.

27 posted on 01/26/2014 4:17:59 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: ZOOKER

The probability is a function of the demographic.

There are few black folks in South Dakota

45 South Dakota 10,207 1.14%


28 posted on 01/26/2014 4:24:31 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: kingattax
How about: LEGISLATION TO THROW LEGISLATORS WHO DON'T READ THE BILLS THEY ARE VOTING ON OUT OF OFFICE? THEN IMPRISON THEM FOR IMPERSONATING A LEGISLATOR!
29 posted on 01/26/2014 6:03:33 AM PST by leprechaun9
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