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Too old to be given cancer treatment: NHS is 'writing off' patients who are over 75
Daily Mail ^ | 1/23/14 | Jenny Hope

Posted on 01/25/2014 5:24:32 PM PST by Libloather

Pensioners with cancer are being written off as too old to treat, campaigners said yesterday.

They cited figures showing survival rates for British patients aged 75 and over are among the worst in Europe.

Young lung cancer sufferers are only 10 per cent more likely to die within five years than their continental counterparts.

But pensioners with the disease have 44 per cent less chance of survival.

The figure for stomach cancer – at 45 per cent – is even worse.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 0carenightmare; cancer; deathpanels; nhs; obamacarefuture; patients; treatment
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Government compassion.
1 posted on 01/25/2014 5:24:32 PM PST by Libloather
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To: Libloather
Coming to a hospital near you. Compliments of Obama.
2 posted on 01/25/2014 5:26:29 PM PST by Parley Baer
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To: Libloather

DIE QUICKLY.

Alan Grayson. Dhimmicrat


3 posted on 01/25/2014 5:26:48 PM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Libloather

Coming soon to America (if not already here)!


4 posted on 01/25/2014 5:27:21 PM PST by getarope (Jesus is coming soon, and boy is he PISSED!)
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To: Libloather

Government managed health care does include “death panels”, period!


5 posted on 01/25/2014 5:27:24 PM PST by SIRTRIS
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To: Libloather

so best to die in a hail of bullets


6 posted on 01/25/2014 5:27:50 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: Libloather

My FIL was sent home to die. Bladder cancer. Took him months to get a scan. He suffered greatly.


7 posted on 01/25/2014 5:29:21 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: bigheadfred

I am expecting a lot of old and sick people to get ... angry.


8 posted on 01/25/2014 5:29:24 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Anti-Complacency League! Baby!)
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To: SIRTRIS

9 posted on 01/25/2014 5:31:43 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Anti-Complacency League! Baby!)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Im sorry


10 posted on 01/25/2014 5:32:44 PM PST by al baby (Hi MomÂ… I was refereeing to Obama)
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To: bigheadfred

LOL, you got that right! Beats a slow lingering march to the casket!


11 posted on 01/25/2014 5:33:46 PM PST by dforest
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To: Libloather
My husband passed away from lung cancer. The last months of his life were made comfortable because he had ALL the morphine he needed to feel absolutely NO pain.
Some cancers are not curable and with the elderly sometimes the treatments are deadly. However, with pain, the answer is usually morphine, the "miracle" drug.

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2...3...4...

Well, I will be NOW expecting some FReeper to cite the exceptions s/he knows about which make my statement moot, untrue or not "good enough" or that s/he knows people who get NO relief from morphine or that it REALLY is no miracle at all.

Any moment now. Mr.s. Gainsayer?? Yoohoo...

12 posted on 01/25/2014 5:34:32 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: bigheadfred
so best to die in a hail of bullets

As one Internet poster put it, "When I die, it will be because I deserved it."

13 posted on 01/25/2014 5:36:41 PM PST by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: al baby

Thanks, Al. He was a Brit and a WW2 vet. Was a gunner on the East Coast fighting “The Gerries”. He voted Labour (I forgave him of that because he just couldn’t see the forest for the trees after trying the rebuild post-war. Many fell for Socialism.). He was a good man, tho. Miss his wit and big smile.


14 posted on 01/25/2014 5:39:11 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: Libloather

“showing survival rates for British patients aged 75 and over are among the worst in Europe.”

...sez it all!

Is this the same NHS that 50% of the 2012 Olympic Ceremonies was dedicated to? Between this, and the world-famous British dental work (or lack thereof), I’m not so sure that I would be all that proud of it, really.

The Soviet system was MUCH better. You drink yourself to death long before you get old and sick!


15 posted on 01/25/2014 5:40:24 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: Libloather
The key word here is pensioners, no longer will they have to be a financial burden meaning having to disperse YOUR MONEY TO YOU and the criminals can now confiscate YOUR hard earned money YOU worked all YOUR life for sooner rather than waiting for you to die naturally, THIS is the key the key they're after
16 posted on 01/25/2014 5:41:09 PM PST by ronnie raygun
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To: Libloather

The Communist agenda..soon hitting American hospitals, where the left decides who lives and who dies..instead of deciding based on age, they will decide based on political affiliations..if your Conservative, you die, if your a liberal, you live


17 posted on 01/25/2014 5:42:00 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: ClearCase_guy

Yep. Palin was right. Death panels are here.


18 posted on 01/25/2014 5:44:21 PM PST by tennmountainman (Just Say No To Obamacare)
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To: tennmountainman

I meant coming to America too. And if you are an angry white male,
the age limit will be reduced to 60, instead of 75.


19 posted on 01/25/2014 5:47:36 PM PST by tennmountainman (Just Say No To Obamacare)
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To: ronnie raygun

Have you seen the Channel 4 show out of the UK called “Benefits Street”? It’s a play on a popular soap there called “Coronation Street”. It delved into (and has been contriversial) dole theft. Several ones featured in the show have been arrested.


20 posted on 01/25/2014 5:48:24 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: cloudmountain
You really don't get it do you? Who made the decision, your doctor or your government?

Was the decision based on tax payer dollars or was it a doctors professional opinion?

21 posted on 01/25/2014 5:49:00 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Libloather

Time for you Brits to execute 10 Nazi bureaucrats for every pensioner they try to kill. If you don’t do that, you’re next.


22 posted on 01/25/2014 5:49:42 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: ClearCase_guy
B T T T ! ! ! ©

23 posted on 01/25/2014 5:49:47 PM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Libloather

coming to a death panel near you


24 posted on 01/25/2014 5:50:02 PM PST by Nifster
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To: Libloather

The way I read it is that they looking to improve things for the elderly,not ignore them.

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25 posted on 01/25/2014 5:50:26 PM PST by Mears
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To: Libloather

Coming to America, too, thanks to the Rat beasts.


26 posted on 01/25/2014 5:51:56 PM PST by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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To: Libloather

coming to a country really really close to us soon


27 posted on 01/25/2014 5:51:56 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: The Antiyuppie

The Soviet system and today’s Russian system treat people with cancer, even the elderly.


28 posted on 01/25/2014 5:53:33 PM PST by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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To: ronnie raygun

I predict that old people will cause the burden of paying gubermint employees to be drastically reduced.


29 posted on 01/25/2014 5:54:52 PM PST by MtnClimber (A Foolish Faith In Authority Is The Worst Enemy Of The Truth - Albert Einstein)
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To: Libloather

That’s actually not a bad idea. Ever try to get life insurance if you are over 75?

I think of the cost of insurance for the elderly (I’m 60, btw as kinda like reaching the speed of light. As you go faster and faster, your mass increases, eventually causing too much energy to be needed to speed you up to the speed of light.

Health insurance should continue to increase with age to the point that it’s just too expensive. So you don’t have insurance but depend on your own wallet to help you out of things like cancer. If you can’t afford it, well, you die. It’s my plan. Heck, I’ve been insurance free since the beginning of the year. But then, we live very healthy lives, ingest plenty of B-17, use a masticating Juicer, etc. The good Lord will take us away to a better place at a time of His choosing.

Now, if you are a young man with a family depending on you, that’s a different thing. But you had better be under 75.


30 posted on 01/25/2014 5:55:33 PM PST by cuban leaf
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To: ClearCase_guy

im not so old but i am sick and my company dropped my health insurance jan 1 and angry started years ago


31 posted on 01/25/2014 5:57:36 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: cloudmountain

I’m very glad morphine worked for your husband. It’s really a gift from God and yet so many people abuse it. I hope no one says anything negative about your post.


32 posted on 01/25/2014 5:57:43 PM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: cloudmountain

Morphine is a blessing for those suffering extreme pain.

It is my opinion that Stage 1 or 2 cancers have a chance for a cure, but spending half a million dollars on chemo for a person over 75 with stage 4 or 5 cancer is almost always devastating, because even with a couple of months in remission the cancer re occurs shortly thereafter. Too much suffering with false hope, and I have seen that.

Better to let someone have that last six months in peace with their family. Of course it should be between them and their doctor, and not up to government to decide.


33 posted on 01/25/2014 5:58:10 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: Libloather

There is a certain segment of the population who, if killed off in large numbers, would make life better for the rest of us.

The problem is defining that group who should be offed (and by extension, defining for whom life would be better if the target group were offed).

‘Rats believe that the cohort to be disposed of is old peeps and really sick peeps, and conservatives of any state of health. And the cohort that will benefit under their scheme is (to oversimplify) the Pajama Boy and Wendy Davis class.

I, on the other hand, believe that that cohort that should be exterminated it ‘RATS. Of any age, any color, any socioeconomic status. And the cohort that will benefit is God-fearing, working, morally upright Americans.

Let the games begin!


34 posted on 01/25/2014 5:59:32 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

..if your Conservative, you die, if your a liberal, you live
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You’re absolutely right. Except they won’t care if one is elderly and “a burden on the State”.

I told an elderly liberal woman to just wait until Amnesty kicks in and she’ll be put in the back of the health care line behind all the pregnant illegals. She just looked at me but I could tell it made her think.

I also told her that anyone voting for Obama should be ashamed and her grandchildren were going to suffer because of that evil bastard. I used those exact words because I hope I offend the idiots.


35 posted on 01/25/2014 6:01:33 PM PST by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: Kackikat

>> with stage 4 or 5 cancer

What is Stage 5? I only know of Stage 4: cancer that has metastasized to distant regions of the body. (For those cancers that are staged that way.)


36 posted on 01/25/2014 6:01:57 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: Libloather

When considering matters of life and death, it is important to note that the Creator is aware of our condition and has entered into history in the flesh of Christ Jesus, Whose life and righteousness avails for all people for all time. While the government and other supposed authorities may appear to be stronger than all, in fact they are not. The snarling, grabbing, self-absorbed seekers of power in this world have been defeated and will receive their due reward. A new creation awaits those who, in weakness, wait quietly for the LORD.


37 posted on 01/25/2014 6:02:07 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Nervous Tick

Stages 3 & 4...sorry


38 posted on 01/25/2014 6:02:50 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: laplata

He who loves his life in this world will lose it.


39 posted on 01/25/2014 6:03:16 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: cloudmountain
im with you on this!...even some Freepers cant except the inevitable...How much compassion is involved to keep a loved one hanging on for “our” benefit instead of theirs???...To them that don't get it yet..We're all gonna die!...

GET OVER IT!!

(Glad you dared to write “your” opinion!...Mine too..but now we can be a minority of a minority together... Bring ‘em on!

40 posted on 01/25/2014 6:03:34 PM PST by M-cubed
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To: Kackikat

>> Stages 3 & 4

No worries. With that correction, your post makes sense.


41 posted on 01/25/2014 6:05:42 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: Libloather
In American English it's “maybe Grandma should only get a pain pill”.
42 posted on 01/25/2014 6:06:58 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Osama Obama Care: A Religion That Will Have You On Your Knees!)
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To: Nervous Tick

Thanks...just tired I guess.


43 posted on 01/25/2014 6:07:13 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: laplata

>> I told an elderly liberal woman &etc

Wow, you’re harsh! And I mean that as a compliment.

More ‘rats need to hear the TRUTH.


44 posted on 01/25/2014 6:08:44 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: Nervous Tick
‘Rats believe that the cohort to be disposed of is old peeps and really sick peeps, and conservatives of any state of health. And the cohort that will benefit under their scheme is (to oversimplify) the Pajama Boy and Wendy Davis class.

Only one problem with that philosophy. A host can live (and better) after the removal of parasites (Dumbascraps), but how's the parasite going to exist if they kill the host?

45 posted on 01/25/2014 6:08:47 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Libloather

this is why you don’t want govt in charge of your healthcare decisions and options.


46 posted on 01/25/2014 6:08:53 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Libloather
Actually I don't think this is a bad idea..

I'm going to be 75 myself in a few years and it doesn't seem cost effective for Medicare, Obammacare, the VA or any other government program to spend tax dollars to keep me alive a few extra months should I get cancer or any of the other things that are going to kill me..

Seems to me folks that want this should buy private insurance ..

47 posted on 01/25/2014 6:11:10 PM PST by montanajoe
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To: Nervous Tick

I don’t use the F word and choose my words carefully but I mean to offend or wake them up. I look upon Obama supporter/stooges as the enemy of our prosperity, freedom and security, which are all intertwined. I hope to offend them.


48 posted on 01/25/2014 6:11:47 PM PST by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: cloudmountain

morphine is great. you just don’t want them giving you so much they euthanize you to save money. which places have done to people.


49 posted on 01/25/2014 6:12:07 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Oatka

i ran out of bullets


50 posted on 01/25/2014 6:12:08 PM PST by bigheadfred
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