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Newspaper boss says gun permit database idea was misfire
Fox News ^ | 26 jan 2014 | Joshua Rhett Miller

Posted on 01/26/2014 5:34:25 AM PST by rellimpank

A national newspaper chain never intended to create a multi-state database of gun owners with permits allowing them to carry concealed weapons according to its top executive, who told FoxNews.com a "poorly crafted" internal memo erroneously indicated such an idea was being planned. The memo -- sent by a top content editor to various editors at Civitas Media, which owns about 100 newspapers in 11 states, with 1.6 million in total circulation -- laid out a plan for an enterprise project that would use public information requests to establish the database. But Civitas President and CEO Michael Bush, in an email after FoxNews.com reported the story on Friday, stated that the memo should not have been sent and that the notion of such a project had been "rejected" upon consideration. “Civitas Media never had any plans or intentions of publishing in print or online lists of holders of 'conceal and carry' permits," Bush wrote to FoxNews.com. “Nor will Civitas Media develop databases of permit holders. A poorly crafted internal memo meant to highlight editorial discussions and planning incorrectly indicated that such a database was being planned; it has been considered and rejected.” The Jan. 19 memo raised the prospect of a much larger version of a controversial project carried out by in 2012 by a New York state newspaper that included an online map identifying gun owners in two counties by name and address. The aborted Civitas project would have "examine[d] the explosion of ‘conceal and carry’ gun permits across the U.S.,” wrote Jim Lawitz, Civitas’ director of content, in an e-mail first obtained by the Buckeye Firearms Association. “Through public records act requests, we will attempt to build state-by-state databases that list those who have the right to carry a concealed weapon.”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; rkba
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1 posted on 01/26/2014 5:34:26 AM PST by rellimpank
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To: rellimpank

He is likely lying, intending to quietly compile the database anyway. So efforts should be made to “identify the compilers” who make FOIA requests for such lists, and at the slightest hint of such effort, giving Civitas both barrels, as it were.


2 posted on 01/26/2014 5:37:29 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (WoT News: Rantburg.com)
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To: rellimpank

misfire = &*$%)# backlash....


3 posted on 01/26/2014 5:41:07 AM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Doogle

Everyone above has said it all


4 posted on 01/26/2014 5:43:10 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: rellimpank

why isn’t this information protected information?

me thinks we should start contacting our local elected officials to enact legislation to prevent this kind of “database” collection.

if we can’t get the names of welfare recipients, why can we get the names of constitutionally protected individuals exercising their rights?


5 posted on 01/26/2014 5:45:56 AM PST by ealgeone (obama, border)
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To: rellimpank

I think he’s lying.

It should be a law that anybody who makes a blanket open records request for a state’s concealed carry permits list must be published in all state newspapers.


6 posted on 01/26/2014 5:46:31 AM PST by Obadiah (I Like Ted.)
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To: rellimpank

The penis of an HIV Positive man is just as dangerous and lethal as a firearm.

But suggest propose the creation a national database of HIV positive men, complete with their address and links to maps to find out where they live (just applying the same standards Libs have for guns, right?) and watch what happens ...


7 posted on 01/26/2014 5:47:15 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: ealgeone

Maine passed a law after the NY fiasco that keeps information on CCW holders private (well, as private as it can get when in the hands of the state). The Unified Democrat Maine press (largely owned & controlled by Rep. Pingree’s husband) was making steps in the direction of doing a similar stunt when the state passed the law.


8 posted on 01/26/2014 5:54:42 AM PST by NewHampshireDuo
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To: rellimpank

Exactly. Liberals even lie in their sleep.


9 posted on 01/26/2014 5:54:50 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: tanknetter
But suggest propose the creation a national database of HIV positive men, complete with their address and links to maps to find out where they live (just applying the same standards Libs have for guns, right?) and watch what happens ...

Maybe "penal" colonies should be set up for them.

10 posted on 01/26/2014 5:56:44 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: tanknetter

Homosexuality Kills More Than Double The People Than Do Cars, Suicide, Violence By Guns & War Combined: 617,000 Dead In U.S. From AIDS ~ Lead Cause...... homo Sex


11 posted on 01/26/2014 6:00:06 AM PST by rsobin
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12 posted on 01/26/2014 6:01:49 AM PST by RedMDer (Happy with this, America? Make your voices heard. 2014 is just around the corner. ~ Sarah Palin)
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To: ealgeone
why isn’t this information protected information?

More over why have we allowed our second amendment right to protect ourselves from out of control governments to be infringed?

13 posted on 01/26/2014 6:15:34 AM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: tanknetter
But suggest propose the creation a national database of HIV positive men, complete with their address and links to maps to find out where they live (just applying the same standards Libs have for guns, right?) and watch what happens ...

Sssssshhhhhhhhhhhh . . . . . . . . Don't tell anyone. But when ObamaCare is fully implemented this list will exist along with lists on any other health issue you would care to data mine for.

14 posted on 01/26/2014 6:20:40 AM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: ealgeone

“if we can’t get the names of welfare recipients, why can we get the names of constitutionally protected individuals exercising their rights?”

People who have concealed carry *licenses* are NOT exercising their RIGHTS.

The exercising of RIGHTS does not involve training, applications, and fees. You would do well to recognize that.


15 posted on 01/26/2014 6:27:52 AM PST by BB62
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To: rellimpank

“...a “poorly crafted” internal memo erroneously indicated such an idea was being planned.

The memo — sent by a top content editor to various editors at Civitas Media,...”

the editor mistakenly saved the original memo... in the form of an email message..and one early morning while it was still open on his desktop... hit SEND by mistake...

Ya I’ll buy that!!


16 posted on 01/26/2014 6:29:43 AM PST by MeshugeMikey ("When you meet the unbelievers, strike at their necks..." -- Qur'an 47:4)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Yes, the slimeball is a lying bastard. We know damm well that the media will get their way as long as Obama is in the White hut.


17 posted on 01/26/2014 6:35:12 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: rellimpank
“Through public records act requests, we will attempt to build state-by-state databases that list those who have the right to carry a concealed weapon.”

In a sane America the 2nd Amendment tells you this.

18 posted on 01/26/2014 6:38:22 AM PST by Delta 21 (If you like your freedom, you can keep your freedom. Period.)
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To: rellimpank

Wonder if those editors figured out that they aren’t the only ones that can build data bases...


19 posted on 01/26/2014 6:50:07 AM PST by Walkingfeather
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To: fella

It is protected in Missouri.


20 posted on 01/26/2014 7:11:42 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: rellimpank

Start talking about building a public database of women that have had abortions. The liberals would flip out.


21 posted on 01/26/2014 7:54:58 AM PST by TheGipperWasRight
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

It’s a federal data base.


22 posted on 01/26/2014 7:59:04 AM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: rellimpank; doug from upland
good thing, dfu took care of this issue.

23 posted on 01/26/2014 8:39:23 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi)
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To: rellimpank

I think it’s high time we make a database of every employee of every newspaper across the country.


24 posted on 01/26/2014 8:41:33 AM PST by Solson (The Voters stole the election! And the establishment wants it back.)
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To: skinkinthegrass

It looks like many people sent a similar email as mine and they had to respond very quickly to diffuse the bomb.


25 posted on 01/26/2014 8:45:57 AM PST by doug from upland (Obama and the leftists - destroying our country one day at a time)
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To: rellimpank

Headline: TRIAL BALLOON SHOT DOWN


26 posted on 01/26/2014 9:20:34 AM PST by lakecumberlandvet (Appeasement never works.)
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To: BB62

Your point is understood.....and trust me I don’t think we should have to jump through the hoops either.


27 posted on 01/26/2014 10:03:29 AM PST by ealgeone (obama, border)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

“Lawitz downplayed the email when reached on Friday, saying the company had “no plans to publish” any lists or databases.”

Yes. Notice the careful non-denial.


28 posted on 01/26/2014 10:09:02 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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