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Carney: Obamacare ĎAbsolutely Worth Ití if Dems Lose the Senate
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Posted on 01/26/2014 8:30:30 AM PST by Sub-Driver

January 26, 2014 10:28 AM Carney: Obamacare 'Absolutely Worth It' if Dems Lose the Senate By Andrew Johnson

Even if Obamacare proves to be electoral Kryptonite for Democrats in this year’s midterms, the White House still believes the health-care law was worth the political hit.

“The answer is it is absolutely worth it, no matter what happens politically,” press secretary Jay Carney told ABC’s Jon Karl. In fact, Carney didn’t expect running against Obamacare to even be a winning message for Republicans “because they’ve got to explain what repeal [of the law] means.”


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2014election; 2016election; abc; abortion; andrewjohnson; deathpanels; demagogicparty; election2014; election2016; jaycarney; jonathankarl; jonkarl; obamacare; zerocare
If you say so........
1 posted on 01/26/2014 8:30:30 AM PST by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

“because they’ve got to explain what repeal [of the law] means.”

Be happy to.

It means keeping the plans and doctors you want. It means premiums and deductibles costing less than half of what theyve been pushed up to so far. It means no death panels. It means more freedom.


2 posted on 01/26/2014 8:34:19 AM PST by lowbridge
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To: Sub-Driver

Carney and Obama and Pelosi... this shows me how noble they are. /S


3 posted on 01/26/2014 8:37:52 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Sub-Driver

If it’s not enforced then is it really a law? obunghole has simply declared the “law” to not apply in so many cases now that what’s the point. obamneycare is the equivalent of one of those peculiar blue laws from colonial times like “No walking a goose on a leash” or “No naked bathing”. The only suckers are those who are what can’t be enforced - namely the dumb saps signing up for the individual mandate.


4 posted on 01/26/2014 8:41:51 AM PST by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: Sub-Driver

WHEN will these idiots wake up? When will we atop electing these idiots.

IF, and it’s only about 50/50, the GOP takes back the Senate this cycle it will be only because the Dems have a lot of seats to defend in Red States. In 2016 the GOP loses 7 seats MINIMUM in blue States.

And so what if they get the Senate? They don’t have the WH. Nothing will get done except that the RINOs will feel more emboldened.

Why we don’t get out a solid Conservative message is utterly beyond me.


5 posted on 01/26/2014 8:43:53 AM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: RIghtwardHo

My tag line explains it all.


6 posted on 01/26/2014 8:45:28 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: Sub-Driver

The seed of cancer is implanted is what he means. It may not perform like they intended but it will do enough damage to destroy what is in place so that it could never revert back.


7 posted on 01/26/2014 8:50:58 AM PST by ronnie raygun
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To: Sub-Driver
“The answer is it is absolutely worth it, no matter what happens politically,” press secretary Jay Carney

Of course they do...

What the Obama spokes clown suppose to say???

"We need to repeal ACA to keep the Senate" ? That's not going to happen...

Why should they care about repealing ACA to keep the Senate when they have plans to steal the it anyway ?

8 posted on 01/26/2014 8:54:24 AM PST by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Sub-Driver
There's always the circus, Jay.
9 posted on 01/26/2014 8:56:11 AM PST by JPG (Yes We Can morphs into Make It Hurt.)
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10 posted on 01/26/2014 9:02:44 AM PST by RedMDer (Happy with this, America? Make your voices heard. 2014 is just around the corner. ~ Sarah Palin)
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To: ronnie raygun

I haven’t seen any well-thought out plan for what it would take to roll it back (while replacing it with something more workable). Surely, it can be done.

Going back to “business as usual” is NOT going to cut it, though. We were clearly on an unsustainable path BEFORE Obamacare.


11 posted on 01/26/2014 9:02:45 AM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: Sub-Driver

It’s a ‘Doomsday Machine’, yaknow.

Congre$$, not ObamaCare.


12 posted on 01/26/2014 9:14:29 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: Sub-Driver

So Obama’s guy is telling his democrat friends not to expect an apology when they lose the Senate.

His arrogance is killing them, too. Lol.


13 posted on 01/26/2014 9:15:10 AM PST by ToastedHead
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To: Sub-Driver

Imagine if the Republicans had a tenth of this level of commitment.

Tea Party now.


14 posted on 01/26/2014 9:17:05 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: The Antiyuppie
I haven’t seen any well-thought out plan for what it would take to roll it back (while replacing it with something more workable). Surely, it can be done.

Whatever plan is put on the table, the one element that will need to be addressed is the millions who enrolled under ACA for Medicaid...

That cat cannot be put back in the bag...political suicide...

Not sure of the answer to that question...

Pretty much any other part of ACA can be transferred to the states to handle...

The States can pick up enrollees who have subsidies and move them back to reg insurance plans...

15 posted on 01/26/2014 9:20:00 AM PST by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: The Antiyuppie

-— We were clearly on an unsustainable path BEFORE Obamacare. -—

In what sense? No one was denied medical treatment. The system was stable and could have functioned indefinitely.


16 posted on 01/26/2014 9:21:58 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Sub-Driver

Carney always looked like a 17 year old kid, so now he is growing a beard so he an be taken more seriously. Good luck with that.


17 posted on 01/26/2014 9:23:38 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: Sub-Driver

Hmmm, I am used to just reflexively disagreeing with Carney. How about it still isn’t worth it, but that could be the silver lining?


18 posted on 01/26/2014 9:26:37 AM PST by cdcdawg (Be seeing you...)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

Did you also notice that the State Department spokeswoman looks like a college sophomore.


19 posted on 01/26/2014 9:30:29 AM PST by DeFault User
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Since Carney and his boss and all the henchpeople have been “explaining” Obamacare by continually LYING, explaining repeal will be a piece of cake. Thanks Sub-Driver.


20 posted on 01/26/2014 9:35:40 AM PST by SunkenCiv (;http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: Sub-Driver

I can see what he means.

Keeping the senate is means to an end.

What’s the point if the goal of bringing down the country is already reached?


21 posted on 01/26/2014 9:37:47 AM PST by Salman
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To: Sub-Driver
If Congress doesn't give Obama what he wants he'll make the laws with the stroke of his pen.

What thug needs Congress?

Oh wait, all those lobbyist who legally bribe our ‘public servants’ need folks to ‘tweak regulations’ in their favor. Guess we'll have to keep pretending....

22 posted on 01/26/2014 9:50:45 AM PST by GOPJ (Liberals never let something as petty as being 100% wrong stop them - Blood of Tyrants)
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To: Sub-Driver
"Obamacare 'Absolutely Worth It' if Dems Lose the Senate "

I believe there are some Democratic Senators who beg to differ...

23 posted on 01/26/2014 9:53:16 AM PST by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: MV=PY
I believe there are some Democratic Senators who beg to differ...

I will fight for Obamacare to the last drop of your blood.

I don't care how many Democratic Senators I have to sacrifice.

24 posted on 01/26/2014 10:00:27 AM PST by Mikey_1962 (Democrats have destroyed more cities than Godzilla)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

” No one was denied medical treatment.”

That isn’t entirely true. A Hospital only has to treat emergency care. Someone that will die a month later without an operation can be turned away.

A condition only has to be stabilized enough to release you to the care of your doctor. It doesn’t matter that you don’t have, and can’t afford a doctor.


25 posted on 01/26/2014 10:09:32 AM PST by Beagle8U (Unions are Affirmative Action for Slackers! .)
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To: cdcdawg

If that is what it takes to wrest control of the Senate from Hairy Reems, then, yes, the suffering caused by Obamacare was worth it.


26 posted on 01/26/2014 10:16:44 AM PST by sportutegrl
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To: Sub-Driver

With all of the VOTE FRAUD, they will NEVER lose the Senate, just like from now on they will ALWAYS win the Presidency!


27 posted on 01/26/2014 10:53:17 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Sub-Driver

The dems can live to rule the senate another day...obamacare is another nail in America’s coffin. Goal achieved with the further advance of communism.


28 posted on 01/26/2014 11:42:45 AM PST by Conservative4Ever (waiting for my Magic 8 ball to give me an answer)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

-— We were clearly on an unsustainable path BEFORE Obamacare. -—

“In what sense? No one was denied medical treatment. The system was stable and could have functioned indefinitely.”

OK, in 1985, my wife and I insured each other though our work plans (at no cost to us) and there was no “coordination of benefits”. From then to let’s say two years ago BEFORE Obamacare, insurance has become crappier and more expensive to our employers to and to us every year, soaking up an increasingly large percentage of total compensation. At the rate I just described, by 2070, everyone will spend 100% of their income for medical care. Is that sustainable? I think not.


29 posted on 01/26/2014 12:43:00 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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