Skip to comments.Bridge Engineers Say California Ordered Flaws Overlooked
Posted on 01/26/2014 11:08:56 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks RocksEdited on 01/26/2014 11:12:17 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
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Next major earthquake that hits San Francisco, that thing’s going into the bay.
Hope you’re not going to be on that bridge anytime soon!
THE GOVERNMENT did this, but California libtards will always vote for MORE GOVERNMENT
But a couple non-essential things in the article don't seem to add up. As far as I know it was part of the WESTERN section of the bridge that collapsed during the quake and it was fairly quickly fixed. I'm not aware of quake damage to the eastern section. It was later that they decided to replace the entire cantilevered eastern section with a suspension bridge. That project took a long time and is which I believe this article is about. Not clear under those circumstances what the timing crisis was all about since the old cantilevered section was used until the new bridge was finished.
Amazing. Bridge-builders now need 10 times more time and money than they did when the Golden Gate and Bay Bridges were erected, and the sole reason is new regulations. And yet they can’t ensure that the bridges are any safer. Perhaps some sub-species of mosquito which happens to live in the area benefited from the environmental impact reports, who knows.
Show us the welder certifications
Show us the weld x rays
Do you have those for the WTC floor joist angle iron seats welded to the outer columns?
Certifications yes. X rays , maybe
No, I believe it was the eastern section that had a deck collapse right where the bridge approached the truss section.
No. It was the eastern cantilever span that failed. The western suspension section did fine.
Anybody who blames Moonbeam for this is mistaken. This is Arnold’s baby, lock, stock, and barrel. It was he who pulled Bechtel off the job for Peter Kiewitt, in whom Arnold’s buddy Warren Buffet is a major stockholder.
More details here:
Caltrans ignored shoddy work on Bay Bridge in China and U.S. - Sacramento Bee
The story relates that Jim Merrill, while managing quality control for steel work done by the Chinese firm, Zhenhua Port Machinery Co., warned Caltrans that parts had hundreds of cracks contrary to both the production contract and welding codes. He felt that Caltrans was more concerned with the work schedule than with safety. Shortly afterward the inspection firm was fired and replaced by another company which was unable to perform the necessary testing until they hired employees away from the rejected firm.
Douglas Coe was transfered from supervising the Chinese work to another project in California after discovering cracks in the welds on components of the bridge suspension tower. He ordered the construction firm to do more testing and was told by Caltrans manager Tony Anziano to back off.
I hate to say it, but that has to be the butt-ugliest bridge I’ve ever seen.
Government drones strike again! Liars. Criminals.
All hidden flaws will be exposed at the next quake.
Yet another “own goal” by the advocates of “free trade.” The PRC company won the big, no doubt by bidding below cost.
For the PRC and PLA, it was a cheap way to gain important knowledge about US infrastructure and internal bidding practices for infrastructure projects.
And of course the Chinese steel and welds are crap. Any one who has welded on, or machined, Chinese steel knows that it’s crap steel. Always has been.
That’s an understatement.
But even so, as far as I know they fixed that part that fell pretty quickly. Still don't get the urgency issue with building the whole new suspension bridge some time later.
It was deemed unsafe for earthquakes; the box structure of a cantilever section being too rigid to survive the swing. The Loma Prieta quake that damaged it was a 7.0 with an epicenter sixty miles away. The Hayward fault is just over twelve miles away and is capable of an 8.0.
From my review of the photos I could find, the level of penetration into the columns was minimal, at best.
Right, but I still question the acuteness of the urgency - I mean the bridge was many years old in that state so fixing it was necessary but why the sense of rushing it? Smells like some sort of political issue.
The foundation for the old bridge is old wooden pilings sunk into the mud of the San Francisco bay. I’m not ure if the pilings even reached the bedrock.
The deficiency was identified in 1989. The Hayward fault is overdue to go. If the bridge goes down it would be catastrophic for the Bay Area economy. It's now 2014. That's 25 years. You call that a rush?
He was ordered to ignore flaws in components supplied by a Chinese firm, and not document anything, to avoid evidence that could be picked up by later FOIA requests.
The reason for rushing government construction is that the way contracts are written construction delays almost always cost the government exorbitant claims in additional payments to the contractor. The contractors get administrative costs, lost profits, rental costs of idle equipment that they themselves own, etc. It’s a windfall for them.
I’ve seen it happen time and time again. The contractors’ lobbies and their lawyers are among the best in the country. And they have Congress and State legislatures in their pockets. The laws are written in their favor to prevent them from losing money.
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The free market runs on self interest through voluntary cooperation and creates wealth. Government programs, initially labelled with a "public good" goal, actually runs on its own self interest through coercion and creates misery and poverty.
Got stuck in rush hour traffic on the lower deck of the cypress back in 1988. Truck traffic on the roadway above caused the lower deck to bounce.