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Celebration: Obamacare 'Enrollees' Pass Three Million* Mark
Townhall.com ^ | January 26, 2014 | Guy Benson

Posted on 01/26/2014 11:33:08 AM PST by Kaslin

Pop the cork, America! The Obamacare exchanges crossed the three million enrollee threshold late last week, according to an HHS press release hailing the "milestone." Actually, you might want to keep that champagne on ice for the time being. Phil Klein:


About 3 million Americans have now signed up for insurance through President Obama's health care law since the debut of the law's exchanges on Oct. 1, the Department of Health and Human Services said on Friday. HHS did not specify when the exchanges hit the 3 million mark. Department spokeswoman Joanne Peters replied by email: "We hit 3 (million) this week, don’t have an exact date." But there's also an important caveat. HHS still hasn't disclosed how many of those who have selected a plan through the health care law have actually paid for it, which is how insurers typically define enrollment.


Yeah, remember this? The administration doesn't know how many of those Americans who've "selected plans" through Obamacare's exchanges are paid up, and therefore actually covered. Health insurance industry expert Bob Laszewski has reported that non-payment rates could end up somewhere in the 10 to 30 percent range. That means that hundreds of thousands of the "enrollees" being touted by the Obama administration aren't fully enrolled. But for the sake of argument, let's play along with HHS' figures. They say they've signed up three million people as of late January. The law's open enrollment period ends after March 31st (barring yet another delay/extension). Team Obamacare projected that they'd enroll seven million Americans by then. According to their own numbers, they're less than halfway to that goal, with just over two months to go. There's a reason why Kathleen Sebelius is trying to pretend that seven million was never the target they were aiming for. They've also tried to back away from their demographic goals on the composition of risk pools. Their revisionism hasn't impressed or persuaded a top credit rating agency, which just downgraded health insurers due to the pernicious uncertainty and ominous enrollment statistics plaguing the law. Over at the liberal, goalpost-shifting WonkBlog, a writer (evidently rather hungry for any good news) excitedly declares California a success story in all of this. The Weekly Standard's John McCormack rains facts on this wishful parade:


"Wonkbook's Number of the Day: 424,936. That's how many people California enrolled in Obamacare policies between October 1 and December 31," wrote Klein and Soltas. "The goal for the reach [sic] by the end of March is between 487,000 and 696,000 -- and it now looks very much attainable." The WonkBlog report was a bit off: 424,936 is only the number of people who signed up by December 31 and qualified for subsidies. The total number of sign-ups, for both subsidized and unsubsidized plans, was about 500,000. Furthermore, it's inaccurate to call these people "enrollees" because Covered California has refused to say how many paid their first month's premium, which is required to actually be enrolled in a plan.


Those inaccuracies and, um, technicalities aside, the bigger problem with the California success narrative is that the state's enrollment figures are dwarfed by the the number of Californians whose plans were canceled because of Obamacare. As we're seeing across the country, the majority of "new" enrollees under Obamacare were previously insured. McCormack provides this chart that breaks down the numbers:



His conclusion, based on the data:

It's very likely that that fewer than 200,000 of California's 5.5 million uninsured residents (3.3. million of whom are eligible to enter the exchange) signed up for Obamacare by January 1. After spending $1 billion on developing and advertising the exchange in a blue state where views about the law are more favorable than the nation as a whole, is that really a success?


Obamacare supporters may answer that question in the affirmative. The problem for the White House is that there just aren't that many Obamacare supporters in general. A Fox News poll released on Friday showed the law slipping to a new approval low of (36/59). Obamacare is opposed by 64 percent of independents, 57 percent of women, and 59 percent of young voters. A majority of respondents said they expect the law to increase taxes, increase premiums and increase the deficit. Just over one-third said they expect Obamacare to increase their quality of care.


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1 posted on 01/26/2014 11:33:08 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
A special, bonus edition of the DNC's "Fun With Numbers!"

These are Obama regime stats. Anybody dumb enough to buy this? PERIOD?

If you like your ObamaCare stats, you can keep your ObamaCare stats! PERIOD!

2 posted on 01/26/2014 11:36:51 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (ObamaCare. The "global warming" of healthcare plans.)
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To: Kaslin

3 million more permanent supporters of the Progressive, money-printing, debt-laden, politicized nanny-welfare-state.


3 posted on 01/26/2014 11:39:20 AM PST by PGR88
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To: Kaslin

The arm thing — interesting gesture ... I think I’ve seen it before ... can’t quite place it ...


4 posted on 01/26/2014 11:39:41 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Anti-Complacency League! Baby!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

The man without a face in Argentina maybe...Fuhrer what’s his name salute!


5 posted on 01/26/2014 11:42:55 AM PST by Kackikat
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To: Kaslin

Their lying again


6 posted on 01/26/2014 11:42:57 AM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Kaslin

Name just one ?


7 posted on 01/26/2014 11:45:30 AM PST by molson209 (Hillary Clinton)
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To: Kaslin
How many of this fictitious number actually paid their first premium???
8 posted on 01/26/2014 11:46:04 AM PST by bikerman (Obama! if his lips are moving he's lying.)
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To: Kaslin

Seig Heil Sebelius! Any questions?


9 posted on 01/26/2014 11:46:04 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: ClearCase_guy

The arm thing — interesting gesture ... I think I’ve seen it before ... can’t quite place it ...
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
I do notice the smallish mustache and rumor has it her lucky number is 28, which she symbolizes by crossing 4 sevens...

That count must be a doozie.

I got a letter from the mismaladministration telling me that because of my age and being enrolled in the VA System that I am completely covered by the ‘rules’..

Had thought all the way back to Hillary Care that when they opened the VA to all Vets it was to keep them in the ‘system’ without having to use them in the ‘new system’.

So would imagine a lot of the numbers are from VA, Medicare, Medicaid etc etc etc....

Of course when you remember the junkie drawing SSS is considered a benefit and I, after 55+ years of either contributing or donating (all after 1990 I paid 100%) and that is referred to as an entitlement.

English is a great language...parse the words however you decide...

If you don’t like the meaning of on, just change it....


10 posted on 01/26/2014 11:47:05 AM PST by xrmusn (6/98 --Because you have your head up your arse doesn't mean you have to have a crappy outlook.)
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To: Kaslin

Maybe I missed it, but it seems the number of people shifted to Medicaid isn’t included in these figures.


11 posted on 01/26/2014 11:47:39 AM PST by KGeorge (Till we're together again, Gypsy girl. May 28, 1998- June 3, 2013)
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To: Doogle

I bet less than half paid, and ,any of the ones who are paying will stop writhin6 month once they discover the $6k+ deductibles.


13 posted on 01/26/2014 11:50:16 AM PST by matt04
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To: ClearCase_guy

She’s almost got it right. Fingers and thumb straighter and together. A little less off to the side from the shoulder. Keep practicing, Kathleen - you’re almost there. (And it’s pronounced S-EE-G, not S-EYE-G.)


14 posted on 01/26/2014 11:51:34 AM PST by Bob
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To: Kaslin

if there are 300 Million people in this country, are the obamaCare enrollees the actual 1%?


15 posted on 01/26/2014 11:51:47 AM PST by class8601_nuke (don't just be critical, be prompt critical.)
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To: Kaslin

How many Americans remain uninsured today? Most of the new enrollees already had insurance and were forced into the exchanges.


16 posted on 01/26/2014 12:01:15 PM PST by kabar
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To: Kaslin

Are Obamacare signups just like Twitter signups?


17 posted on 01/26/2014 12:04:05 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Kaslin
Can anyone find the numbers of those who LOST their insurance due to "Obamacare?"

Last I looked, that number was well over 9 million people if California, Florida, New York, Illinois, Texas, Ohio and Indiana were counted. There have to be alot more ......

18 posted on 01/26/2014 12:05:55 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Kaslin

3 million signed up
If you like you plan you can keep it
We are from the government; we are here to help
Check is in the mail


19 posted on 01/26/2014 12:09:00 PM PST by VRW Conspirator ( 2+2 = V)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Yeah, I've seen that as well. Hmmmmm...

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20 posted on 01/26/2014 12:09:11 PM PST by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
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To: Kaslin

They are approaching 1%.


21 posted on 01/26/2014 12:09:35 PM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Kackikat
Adolph something. Flatulent little guy with a moustache...
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22 posted on 01/26/2014 12:10:33 PM PST by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
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To: ClearCase_guy
The arm thing — interesting gesture ... I think I’ve seen it before ... can’t quite place it .....

Hmmm... I might have guessed it was an underarm deodorant commercial, but no, probably something else....

23 posted on 01/26/2014 12:11:12 PM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: Kaslin
Celebration: Obamacare 'Enrollees' Pass Three Million* Mark

Yeah, obama just can't wait for that "magic 6 million" number. People have expectations of him.

24 posted on 01/26/2014 12:12:45 PM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Dick Bachert

ROFL


25 posted on 01/26/2014 12:13:53 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: F15Eagle

Thanks.


26 posted on 01/26/2014 12:14:36 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: Kaslin

< 1%


27 posted on 01/26/2014 12:23:25 PM PST by Gomez
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To: Kaslin

And out of these 3million enrollees, how many have allready recieved “care” which their “insurance” actually covered for them?


28 posted on 01/26/2014 12:25:12 PM PST by Safrguns (PM me if you like to play Minecraft!)
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To: class8601_nuke
Being that the population for the US is over 315 million people the percentage for the 0bamaCare enroll-es is much smaller. Also that only a fracture have paid their insurance and only those can be counted as enrolled.

BTW The US reached population of 300 million on Saturday, October 21, 2006

Source

29 posted on 01/26/2014 12:29:15 PM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

And it is rumored some of them are actually paying for their own health insurance.


30 posted on 01/26/2014 12:30:26 PM PST by Iron Munro ("Sooner or later everyone sits down to a banquet of consequences." - Robert Louis Stevenson)
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To: Kaslin

Hey, a few more months and they may equal the number of people who lost coverage due to obamacare! Of course, about then the employer mandate kicks in and about 10x as many more people will lose coverage.


31 posted on 01/26/2014 12:33:39 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Kaslin

>>BTW The US reached population of 300 million on Saturday, October 21, 2006

shows you how much I pay attention


32 posted on 01/26/2014 12:38:34 PM PST by class8601_nuke (don't just be critical, be prompt critical.)
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To: Kaslin

“The Obamacare exchanges crossed the three million enrollee threshold late last week....”

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Three million people whose SS#, bank accounts and other personal data will be available to hackers.


33 posted on 01/26/2014 12:41:23 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: 353FMG
Three million people whose SS#, bank accounts and other personal data will be available to hackers.

Since most of 'em are broke @ss Medicaid folks, there won't be much to pirate. Maybe horn in on some EBT...

34 posted on 01/26/2014 12:43:02 PM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: nascarnation

Don’t the government drones realize that everyone with a functioning brain cell realizes they are continiously lieing about anything they say?


35 posted on 01/26/2014 12:45:34 PM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: ClearCase_guy
The arm thing — interesting gesture ... I think I’ve seen it before ... can’t quite place it ...

iL Douche Bag

Hitlery


36 posted on 01/26/2014 12:47:30 PM PST by Iron Munro ("Sooner or later everyone sits down to a banquet of consequences." - Robert Louis Stevenson)
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37 posted on 01/26/2014 12:52:17 PM PST by RedMDer (Happy with this, America? Make your voices heard. 2014 is just around the corner. ~ Sarah Palin)
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To: Kaslin

Really? What’s their definition of enrolled? Paying for a plan or signing into the website?

One can


38 posted on 01/26/2014 12:53:03 PM PST by RginTN
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To: Kaslin

In order for Obamacare to work, they need about 7 million or more young and healthy people that seldom need any healthcare to sign up (and pay outrageous premiums), to make up for the older and sickly people that couldn’t get insurance before.


39 posted on 01/26/2014 1:02:57 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Kaslin

It’s probably just 3 people who tried a million times each to get logged on.


40 posted on 01/26/2014 1:07:40 PM PST by bgill
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To: matt04

I predict a messier outcome.

Sally signs up for commiecare, say with Blue Cross, makes a few premium payments, then lapses...then gets diagnosed with cancer. Some HHS ‘navigator’ comes to a determination that Sally really was eligible for an additional subsidy (based on her DNC voter registration), and should have paid a lower premium...and said HHS Navigator tells Blue Cross they still have to cover her, as long as Sally pays the lapsed two months at a discounted rate, retro-actively. And of course Sally will pay no premiums going forward, as HHS will determine that any and all of her future illnesses are a result of the cancer, which was retro-actively covered.

Imagine this multiplied tens of thousands of times. As long as a ‘good democrat’ is ‘signed up’ for commiecare, they will be taken care of. If Blue Cross complains, they’ll get demonized in the media, investigated by DOJ, audited, the whole none yards. And in ten years....there will be no Blue Cross.


41 posted on 01/26/2014 1:13:25 PM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: Kaslin

A pre-SOU statistic...

How convenient.


42 posted on 01/26/2014 1:17:55 PM PST by logi_cal869
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To: Kaslin

Enrolled? WHEN DO THEY PAY?


43 posted on 01/26/2014 1:29:34 PM PST by Rodamala
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To: Kaslin

not buying any of it... this is all pretend spin.


44 posted on 01/26/2014 1:56:10 PM PST by Nifster
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To: Kaslin

Interesting.

Pass a law that says everybody has to buy healthcare, or else. Then, make a BFD of it when less than half the number of people required to make it ‘work’, sign up.

Yep, it’s time to celebrate! You’re doing a great job, Kathie!


45 posted on 01/26/2014 2:22:20 PM PST by DJ Frisat ((optional, printed after my name on post))
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To: bgill

And people had trouble with those paper applications too. Some never heard back from the “marketplace” after sending a paper app in, so they tried to enroll again through the call center and web site. Most likely lots of duplicates floating around and are part of that 3 million.


46 posted on 01/26/2014 2:24:23 PM PST by Cedar
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To: Kaslin

3 million fully subsidized medicade signers.


47 posted on 01/26/2014 2:31:53 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

seigipoo heilidoo.


48 posted on 01/26/2014 2:32:19 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: Kaslin

Check out the healthcare.gov website=enrollment. Maybe I just enrolled because I typed it.


49 posted on 01/26/2014 2:34:25 PM PST by jughandle
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To: RginTN

According to the ignorant left, it’s signing into the webpage.


50 posted on 01/26/2014 2:40:38 PM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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