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A Signal From Central Valley That GOP May Act on Immigration
KQED ^ | 1/26/14 | Tyche Hendricks

Posted on 01/26/2014 1:11:36 PM PST by jimbo123

As House Republicans prepare to wrestle with their differences on immigration at an annual retreat next week, one GOP lawmaker from the Central Valley is signaling there may be movement on an issue that has split the party. At the same time, a high-profile group of bipartisan leaders met in Silicon Valley Thursday to unveil a report showing immigrants are key to a robust U.S. economy.

The report by the Bipartisan Policy Center was released by former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and former Secretary of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff, both Republicans, and former Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Henry Cisneros, a Democrat. They argued that America’s population is aging and needs immigrants to keep the labor force growing. A healthy economy, in turn, will enable the United States to maintain its global political and military preeminence.

“Immigrants not only add to the sheer numbers — so they continue the growth process,” said Cisneros, “but they tend to be younger — therefore they form families, therefore they have children, so they create the generation to come.”

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.kqed.org ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; amnestypimps; gopestablishment; lofan; rinos

1 posted on 01/26/2014 1:11:36 PM PST by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

I hate these effin bastards. Fighting for the glory of having sold U.S. citizenship to third world invaders.


2 posted on 01/26/2014 1:12:59 PM PST by raybbr (I weep over my sons' future in this Godforsaken country.)
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To: jimbo123
to unveil a report showing immigrants are key to a robust U.S. economy

Sure they are, 30% of the prison population helps keep guards employed I guess.

All that welfare, free schools and free ER's also help keep government minions employed.

What a bunch of fools.

3 posted on 01/26/2014 1:14:14 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: jimbo123; KC_Lion

We are about to witness the end of the 2 party system


4 posted on 01/26/2014 1:14:59 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: GeronL

They do the best they can to keep our citizens out of the E.R. At the same time they do their best to increase the impact of illegal immigrants on those same E.R.s.

Why we’ll just make them citizens.

And then these new citizens will still need to be subsidized in the E.R.s.

All the negative impacts of illegal immigrants will remain. They’ll just be dirt poor citizens then, and getting the same damned government programs, and more because now they’ll be legal and qualified for more.


5 posted on 01/26/2014 1:17:17 PM PST by DoughtyOne (ZERO is still zero, and John Kerry is a mock-puppet!)
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To: GeronL

That was gone ages ago. The semblance was kept propped up as a divide-and-conquer tactic by the left.


6 posted on 01/26/2014 1:18:38 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: GeronL

The Republican Party has managed it’s way into oblivion.

If they do this immigration deal in an election year, I suggest every Republican stay home.

Let’s see how their voting block gels around an illegal immigrant population base.


7 posted on 01/26/2014 1:18:43 PM PST by DoughtyOne (ZERO is still zero, and John Kerry is a mock-puppet!)
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To: jimbo123

I don’t give a FK about immigrants.

Bring em.

Bring em all.

But, they must be subject to the same laws everyone else is held to.

I wouldn’t care about the 30 million people here if they were under the same laws.


8 posted on 01/26/2014 1:20:55 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: DoughtyOne

bump


9 posted on 01/26/2014 1:21:19 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Vendome

They should be under the same laws. Reading about courts letting illegals off the hook from “cultural misunderstandings” tells me we need to cut off the benefits of breaking and entering this country


10 posted on 01/26/2014 1:22:49 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Vendome

Please remember that we now spend at least half a trillion dollars a year on welfare programs for citizens. (And I’ll bet a lot more than that is spent on hidden programs)

Do you really want to bump that up by 30-40 million in one fell swoop, and then bump it up by 2 million more each year as the immigration flood doors are opened?

I suggest a thirty year moratorium is in order.


11 posted on 01/26/2014 1:23:27 PM PST by DoughtyOne (ZERO is still zero, and John Kerry is a mock-puppet!)
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To: jimbo123
"robust ecom."
hey! you RINOs, If you can't find work, said (out-work) customers
won't buy you cr@p..cheaper labor = immigrant

12 posted on 01/26/2014 1:31:48 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi)
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To: jimbo123

Cisneros, Chertoff and Rice - criminal, thief and fool.


13 posted on 01/26/2014 1:42:50 PM PST by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes everything)
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To: jimbo123

“The report by the Bipartisan Policy Center was released by former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and former Secretary of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff, both Republicans, and former Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Henry Cisneros, a Democrat.”

One Worlders.

Take your “Bipartisan Policy Center” and stick it. You are hyper-partisan: you care nothing about the American citizen but everything about importing mass poverty.


14 posted on 01/26/2014 1:43:08 PM PST by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: jimbo123

Have you noticed all the radical Black leftists that have taken over in the Obama media like Tyche or whateverthat made up name this is!


15 posted on 01/26/2014 1:45:09 PM PST by ncalburt ( Amnesty-media out in full force)
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To: jimbo123
Why are the GOP so dedicated to their own demise?

They have to know immigration is hated by the base.

Are they really that far removed from our daily lives?

16 posted on 01/26/2014 1:49:39 PM PST by Pietro
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To: DoughtyOne
If they do this immigration deal in an election year, I suggest every Republican stay home.

Screw that; I'll vote for someone that I think can do a good job — I voted Gary Johnson instead of Romney last time (my state's former governor; he did a good job).

17 posted on 01/26/2014 1:50:25 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: jimbo123

Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, again.
No Senate, maybe lose the House if they make this wizard move....


18 posted on 01/26/2014 1:57:03 PM PST by Kozak ("Send them back your fierce defiance! Stamp upon the cursed alliance! To arms, to arms in Dixie!)
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To: Vendome
But, they must be subject to the same laws everyone else is held to.

And here's the problem; there are essentially three or four classes of people today:

  1. The elites; the guys that can keep bribe cash in their freezer and not end up w/ more than a smack on the wrist.
  2. The enforcers, the police and bureaucracies: most laws don't apply to them.
  3. The average citizen; whether or not the laws apply to them is a function of their relationship[s] with the two prior groups.
  4. Ex-Felons; these people are much like citizens but held under a set of restricted rights (despite having served their sentence).
  5. Illegal aliens; they share commonalities/properties of the two previous groups.
Given the government desire to control, they want to move everyone into category 4 so that nobody has rights but rather license from the government.
This is what is insidious about the proliferation of felony laws: they have the potential to move large chunks of otherwise law-abiding people into cat 4.
Imagine if they changed the law so that failure to have obamacare was a felony, and they changed the rules so that no existing insurance policy qualified? Instant technical felony for everybody — and they could, with a smile on their faces, blame it on paperwork "all you have to do is come in and sign some forms" (which are confessions of guilt and waivers of the right to jury trial).
19 posted on 01/26/2014 2:00:07 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: jimbo123

This McCarthy creep single handily destroyed the California Gop .This evil creep worked out a special deal with the Dems to ram thru the New State Congressional and state house districts which literally wiped out numerous state and federal Gop seats and any chances of blocking any radical left wing state laws !
This is a vile evil amoral monster who destroyed his own party to save his own district !
This is the type of money grubbing snake that fits right in with Bonehead and Cantor and Issa and Gowdy and Ryan and Goodlatte !
These dangerous creatures need to be removed .


20 posted on 01/26/2014 2:00:35 PM PST by ncalburt ( Amnesty-media out in full force)
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To: OneWingedShark

We may have the chance to take the Senate, so I don’t mind your disagreement.

Note that the GOPe cares so little about taking the majority, that they would dare chance an immigration reform with eventual citizenship included in this election year.

Sure gives me chills, and a desire to help the party.


21 posted on 01/26/2014 2:04:32 PM PST by DoughtyOne (ZERO is still zero, and John Kerry is a mock-puppet!)
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To: jimbo123
I predict that this thing will pass with many promises of fines, time limits, and penalties which will all be repealed after a few years.

It is called incrementalism folks and we are being lied to.

22 posted on 01/26/2014 2:10:03 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: jimbo123

Condi Rice said she opposes state immigration laws. She thinks Ted Kennedy had a great plan when she was promoting her book in 2011.


23 posted on 01/26/2014 2:14:13 PM PST by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: GeronL

The Two Party System disappeared long ago, no both are the party of Government.


24 posted on 01/26/2014 2:18:20 PM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.- Sarah Palin)
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To: jimbo123
The GOP RINO’s will act to their own detriment! Pass amnesty for illegal Mexican Nationals, RINO’s will be defeated in the 2014 primaries period!

I will never vote for another RINO Republican under any circumstance and before any elitist Republican begins asking even if it means not gaining the Senate? Yes, even if we have to throw the Senate to the liberal socialist, I will never vote for another RINO, since all I would be doing is voting for a liberal socialist light who thinks its cool to walk across the isle and lick a phony liberal socialist's arse to get along with him or her. This so called “compromising” simply allows the socialist to keep moving the socialist ball down the field at great expense and cost to our liberty and our children who are left holding the bag for these RINO’s!

This immigration amnesty push is a perfect example of the RINO’s misreading the tea leaves in this Country. 78% of Americans do not view immigration as a priority, but, the RINO’s are in the back pocket of the Communist of Commerce who are paying for their votes, to the American people are no longer represented by their Representatives and the RINO’s are pushing amnesty for Mexican Nationals who have broke our laws and remain in this Country illegally!

The GOP phoned me the other day and wanted me to donate to them, I told them to get their donations from their constituencies, the Mexican Nationals who they now represent, because the current immigration laws in the United States were not being enforced in order to change the “white demographics” and provide for newly registered communist for the Democrat party, the man on the phone did not like hearing that and slammed the phone down in my ear!

No Sir, the GOP RINO’s are just as much an enemy of this Nation as the Communist who are in control of this Administration are!

Screw the GOP RINO’s, no more support from me or my immediate family!

25 posted on 01/26/2014 2:29:48 PM PST by PotatoChop (Respect is earned, not demanded by this out of control socialist government!)
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To: DoughtyOne

That is a long way from any suggestion I have ever made


26 posted on 01/26/2014 2:29:57 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: GeronL

Zactly


27 posted on 01/26/2014 2:30:32 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: jimbo123

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28 posted on 01/26/2014 2:47:39 PM PST by jimsin
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To: Vendome

I believe your post in eight stated you didn’t mind the illegals being allowed to stay here. You even voiced support for bringing more immigrants in.

What do you think that results in, if not what I stated?

Do you understand the corrosive nature of that, in modern times?

When you flood a region with foreign nationals, whose social mores become the prominent social mores?

Lets say we decide to allow 500,000 immigrants from Afghanistan in. How many 75,000 population towns are within 10 to 20 years two thirds Afghanistan for all intents and purposes? And that’s exactly what has been taking place across our nation.

We are being flooded with foreigners. Their social norms are prevailing, not ours, and it is impacting us in ways that are destroying our nation.

I know of one 200,000 citizen community that went from a solid lock Republican to a solid lock Democrat constituency in less than 20 years.

The Dems love this stuff.


29 posted on 01/26/2014 2:48:12 PM PST by DoughtyOne (ZERO is still zero, and John Kerry is a mock-puppet!)
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To: jimbo123
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30 posted on 01/26/2014 2:54:06 PM PST by jimsin
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To: jimbo123

Total BS!!!! When in the history of our country have we tried to absorb the entire underclass of another nation to the tune of 20 million people?


31 posted on 01/26/2014 3:41:18 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: DoughtyOne

K

Let me go back and read what I wrote.

There must be a moderator in there.


32 posted on 01/26/2014 3:47:58 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: DoughtyOne

I’m not gonna alter what i wrote

One of US kant read...


33 posted on 01/26/2014 3:49:07 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Vendome
This is what you posted in Post 8. LINK

I don’t give a FK about immigrants.

Bring em.

Bring em all.

But, they must be subject to the same laws everyone else is held to.

I believe my response was fairly reasoned in Post 11. LINK

It seemed to me to be reasoned to remind you that we are paying out half a trillion to people in our nation who are citizens and playing by the rules. If we convert illegals into folks who play by the rules, is it of no concern that they will still be leaches on our society.

I think my reading of your post came away with a conclusion you don't appreciate, but I'm not convinced I've been unfair in the process.

34 posted on 01/26/2014 4:57:21 PM PST by DoughtyOne (ZERO is still zero, and John Kerry is a mock-puppet!)
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To: Vendome

With apologies to you and others...

I accidentally truncated your comments in Post 8.

This one sentence was omitted in error.

“I wouldn’t care about the 30 million people here if they were under the same laws.”

My response makes a bit more sense with it included.


35 posted on 01/26/2014 5:05:33 PM PST by DoughtyOne (ZERO is still zero, and John Kerry is a mock-puppet!)
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To: DoughtyOne

And I still think yer awesome!

LOL

;-)


36 posted on 01/26/2014 5:36:05 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Vendome

LOL, Hey!

Have a good evening.


37 posted on 01/26/2014 5:38:03 PM PST by DoughtyOne (ZERO is still zero, and John Kerry is a mock-puppet!)
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