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British Government Bans Pro-Israel Advocates Geller and Spencer, Welcomes Nazi
Pamela Geller ^ | 1/26/14 | Pamela Geller

Posted on 01/26/2014 3:09:41 PM PST by Nachum

Recently released documents that were made public under the freedom of information order, “in compliance with the duty of candour” in our ongoing legal action against the the British government for banning Robert Spencer and me, it was revealed reveal that a chief reason why we were banned from the country was because we strongly support Israel.

In one of them, an official in the Foreign & Commonwealth Office whose name was redacted wrote this letter on May 7 to a recipient, whose name was also redacted:

I have received initial feedback from Post to say that they do not expect that there would be any reaction from the US Administration to these exclusions.

We do have concerns with some of the reasoning in the sub, particularly citing pro-Israeli views and. [sic] Pro-Israeli views (and also support for waterboarding) apply to a large number of Americans, including former Presidents. If, for instance, Geller and Spencer were to request details of their exclusion under FOI/DPA or other mechanism, that being pro-Israeli is cited as a reason may be problematic and they could argue publically that their exclusion is on the basis of their support for Israel.

The deeply ingrained antisemitism of the British government is made even more plain by their allowing Jew-hating imams into the country to speak and this latest entry approval.

The Home Secretary Theresa May failed to ban the Nazi leader, Gábor Vona, from the UK. He arrived on the eve of Holocaust Memorial Day, when his party and its politicians openly express repulsive antisemitic views. Despite calls to bar entry, the Home Secretary welcomed him to speak in Britain. Apparently, Home Secretary Theresa May thinks Nazi leaders are “conducive to the public good” but pro-Israel voices are banned.

The Jobbik party loves Islam and hates Israel, so they cannot be banned; only Robert and I. Gabor Vona Gábor Vona, leader of Hungary’s far-right Jobbik party, leaves after addressing supporters at a rally in Hyde Park. Photograph: Justin Tallis/AFP/Getty Images (thanks to Armaros)

BBC: Calls are mounting for the Home Secretary Theresa May to ban Hungarian far-right Jobbik party leader Gabor Vona from entering the UK.

Labour MP Frank Dobson and London Assembly Member Andrew Dismore urged the Home Office and Metropolitan Police to act to prevent potential unrest.

Mr Vona plans to stage a political rally in central London on Sunday, the eve of Holocaust Memorial Day.

Mr Vona’s Jobbik party has been accused of holding strong anti-Semitic views, and of fuelling hatred against the Jewish and Roma communities.

It is the most successful extreme right organisation in Europe, with three seats in the EU parliament and 44 in the Hungarian Parliament.

It has been linked to far-right parties in the EU such as the BNP, the French Front National and Greece’s Golden Dawn.

Mr Vona, who founded the now-outlawed Magyar Garda Mozgalom paramilitary group, is set to speak to Hungarian expatriates at the event in London.

‘Outwardly fascist’

Mr Dismore – who originally proposed the UK’s Holocaust Memorial Day – has written to Ms May demanding that Mr Vona be banned from holding the event.

He called Jobbik “the most powerful outwardly fascist political party in Europe”.

And Labour’s shadow home secretary Yvette Cooper told the Jewish News she had called on Ms May to look at whether the Jobbik leader’s visit was “conducive to the public good”.

Campaigners Hope Not Hate also plan to hand a petition to the Home Office calling for Mr Vona to be excluded from the UK.

A Home Office spokesman said: “We do not comment on individual cases or if someone is under consideration for exclusion.”

Mr Vona has denied allegations he is meeting members of Greece’s Golden Dawn party – who have openly expressed admiration for Adolf Hitler – and the BNP on Sunday.

A spokeswoman for Mr Vona said that he was hosting a forum for Hungarian citizens in Britain ahead of a forthcoming election.

She said that claims to the contrary were “false”, adding: “He has no intention of meeting anyone from Golden Dawn or the British National Party.

“This is a forum for Hungarian citizens. This is not to do with anyone else. There are lots of Hungarians living in London and the election is coming up in Hungary.”


TOPICS: Israel; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: europeanunion; gaborvona; geller; goldendawn; greece; holocaust; hungary; israel; jobbik; nazi; pamelageller; robertspencer; spencer; theholocaust; unitedkingdom; vona
British Government Bans Pro-Israel Advocates Geller and Spencer, Welcomes Nazi Leader Gábor Vona, Speaks in Hyde Park
1 posted on 01/26/2014 3:09:42 PM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum

About Jobbik: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxOKZ5sYW18


2 posted on 01/26/2014 3:23:26 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: Nachum

UK government, like USA government , is now serving Satan.


3 posted on 01/26/2014 3:37:30 PM PST by faithhopecharity (C)
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To: vladimir998

Jobbik gets labels just like the Tea Party gets labels, and the labels come from the same source.

http://jobbik.com/frequently_refuted_lies

It is particularly easy to put words in either of the right wing parties mouths because if you aren’t born into the language there is a 99% chance you won’t learn it of your own volition. There is one set of talking points floating around and all of the press keeps repeating the lies until they are accepted as the truth.

It’s no different than the Republicans are racist mantra we’ve heard ad nauseum.

Another point, the victor gets to write history but that doesn’t make it the truth.


4 posted on 01/26/2014 3:50:03 PM PST by 2right
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5 posted on 01/26/2014 3:50:10 PM PST by RedMDer (Happy with this, America? Make your voices heard. 2014 is just around the corner. ~ Sarah Palin)
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To: 2right

“Jobbik gets labels just like the Tea Party gets labels, and the labels come from the same source.”

All of the “Far-Right” parties of Europe I can think of aren’t so “right-wing” to begin with. The Communist paradigm of “Left” and “Far-Right” is simply very common in the European media.


6 posted on 01/26/2014 3:53:34 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998

In looking at http://jobbik.com/policies they don’t sound that far right to me.


7 posted on 01/26/2014 4:04:45 PM PST by 2right
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To: Nachum

That’s no surprise. It’s the British government. Over the past decade, they’ve charged several Jewish Israeli leaders with crimes and vowed to arrest them, if they landed in the UK. They’ve boycotted Israel and posted neo-Nazi cartoons in British publications (including the Blood Libeal Canard), also over the past few years.


8 posted on 01/26/2014 4:29:05 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Thanks Nachum.
The deeply ingrained antisemitism of the British government is made even more plain by their allowing Jew-hating imams into the country to speak and this latest entry approval. The Home Secretary Theresa May failed to ban the Nazi leader, Gábor Vona, from the UK. He arrived on the eve of Holocaust Memorial Day, when his party and its politicians openly express repulsive antisemitic views. Despite calls to bar entry, the Home Secretary welcomed him to speak in Britain. Apparently, Home Secretary Theresa May thinks Nazi leaders are "conducive to the public good" but pro-Israel voices are banned. The Jobbik party loves Islam and hates Israel, so they cannot be banned...

9 posted on 01/26/2014 4:54:15 PM PST by SunkenCiv (;http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: 2right

That’s why I put “Far-Right” in quotes.


10 posted on 01/26/2014 4:54:18 PM PST by vladimir998
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jobbik Jobbik rejects globalised capitalism, and the influence of foreign investors in Hungary.[29] Jobbik specifically opposes Israeli and Jewish investment in Hungary. On 4 May 2013, protesting the World Jewish Congress's choice to locate their 2013 congress in Budapest, party chairman Gabor Vona said, "The Israeli conquerors, these investors, should look for another country in the world for themselves because Hungary is not for sale." ... During spring 2012, Jobbik representative in Hungarian parliament Zsolt Baráth caused an outrage by commemorating 1882 blood libel against the Jews in Parliament. The Tiszaeszlár blood libel, found later to be unrelated to Jews, was known as first major anti-Jewish event in modern Hungary, predating the Holocaust.[65] On 4 May 2013, Jobbik members protested against the World Jewish Congress in Budapest, claiming the protest was against "a Jewish attempt to buy up Hungary".[71] Jobbik MP Enikő Hegedűs vociferously condemned both Israel and Jews at the rally as her husband, Lóránt Hegedűs Jr., stood nearby.[72] An ordained minister in the Hungarian Reformed Church, Lóránt Hegedűs himself had served in the National Assembly as an MP of the far right Hungarian Justice and Life Party from 1998 to 2002.[73] He invited Holocaust denier David Irving to his Budapest church in 2007 as a "special guest",[73] and has also been accused of anti-Semitism on several occasions for statements he has made about Jews at Jobbik events. At a 2011 rally, he claimed that Jews orchestrated World War II and controlled the international media,[74] and a year prior had alleged that the Hungarian government was secretly cooperating with Mossad to facilitate an Israeli takeover of Hungary with the assistance of Hungarian Jews and mainstream churches.[75]
11 posted on 01/26/2014 5:03:36 PM PST by SunkenCiv (;http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: Nachum

I think the major difference that Geller overlooks is that the UK government can’t refuse entry to an EU citizen.


12 posted on 01/26/2014 5:05:00 PM PST by Natufian (t)
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The paragraph breaks were in there, but the server took them out.


13 posted on 01/26/2014 5:05:08 PM PST by SunkenCiv (;http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: Natufian

sure they can’t


14 posted on 01/26/2014 5:09:18 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Nachum

I don’t see anything to suggest Jobbik “admires” Islam.


15 posted on 01/26/2014 5:10:08 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Natufian

Geert Wilders is an EU citizen and was banned by the UK, had to fight that in court.


16 posted on 01/26/2014 6:26:12 PM PST by SunkenCiv (;http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: Nachum

Genesis 12:3

I will bless those who bless you,
and whoever curses you I will curse;
and all peoples on earth
will be blessed through you

Britain in the past sent missionaries to all corners of the globe. Now, by its actions, it is cursed. Ichabod.


17 posted on 01/26/2014 7:22:19 PM PST by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: Nachum

Jobbik are traitors to Hungary just like the Arrow Cross. Instead of being Nazi collaborators and puppets, Jobbik gets funding from Iran. Germans occupied Hungary for centuries. Hungarian nationalism was founded to liberate Hungary. Yet the cowardly Magyars lacked the will or sense to shoot the traitors in Arrow Cross for pissing on the graves 1848 and calling themselves “nationalists”. Today is no different. Hungary fought Islamic invasion for centuries and was occupied, raped and pillaged by the Ottoman Caliphate. Yet, the traitors in Jobbik get funding from Iran and don’t cower in fear of being shot as traitors.


18 posted on 01/26/2014 9:58:21 PM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: familyop

The British govt has not charged any Israeli with crimes, nor has it boycotted Israel. Anti-Israeli pressure groups in the UK have advocated the above. Groups and indivduals, not the British govt, which remains a close ally of Israel.

We work closely with that nation politically, militarally, and in intelligence work. To say the ‘British govt’ has done what you claimed is utterly wrong.

As to cartoons, whilst there are certainly major leftwing newspapers who are openly very critical of Israel, to suggest actual neo-Nazi cartoons are printed in major UK newspapers is also hyperbole. UK press rules would not allow such open bigotry.


19 posted on 01/27/2014 3:45:38 AM PST by the scotsman (i)
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To: SunkenCiv

And won if I remember correctly.


20 posted on 01/27/2014 3:45:47 AM PST by Natufian (t)
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To: Natufian

Don’t you go bringing sensible facts into this.......


21 posted on 01/27/2014 3:47:00 AM PST by the scotsman (i)
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To: 2right
They are typical European “far-right” national socialists.

This is a healthy Hungarian right wing party:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fidesz

22 posted on 01/27/2014 12:56:10 PM PST by Grzegorz 246
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23 posted on 01/29/2014 3:07:22 PM PST by SJackson (the Democrats take back control, we don’t make (this) kind of naked power grab, J Biden)
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To: SJackson

Why the hell can’t these people kick that damn government out? I can’t believe most Brits are anti-Semitic and like those Muslim bastards.


24 posted on 01/29/2014 5:37:06 PM PST by ZULU (Magua is sitting in the Oval Office. Ted Cruz/Phil Robertson in 2016.)
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