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Gun Talk Radio 1/26/14
Gun Talk Radio ^ | 1/26/14 | Tom Gresham

Posted on 01/26/2014 4:46:42 PM PST by mylife

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Microstamping Controversy - This Week on Gun Talk Radio

Mandeville, LA - Will the requirement for microstamping mean the end of semi-automatic pistols in California? That's what the CEO of the largest gun company in the country predicts in an interview airing this Sunday on Tom Gresham's Gun Talk radio show. Mike Fifer, CEO of Ruger Firearms, joins Alan Gottlieb, of the Second Amendment Foundation, to discuss California's requirement that semi-autos on its list of approved-for-sale guns must feature an untried "ballistic fingerprinting" technology that is, in fact, blocking the sale of those guns.

"This is a serious issue," said show host Tom Gresham. "Microstamping appears to be impossible to put into use, so the effect is that gun companies cannot put their pistols on the roster of guns approved for sale in the state."

Fifer put it more bluntly, saying, "My prediction is within a year or two, they're all gone. Everything's off the list. There have been no new guns submitted and passed since the implementation of microstamping back in May of 2013. Not one."

Ruger is unable to get any new guns approved by California, and even worse, if a gun which is on the list is altered or improved in any way, it must be re-submitted for approval, and at that point it must have microstamping technology included, which has proved to be impossible, according to those companies.

The Second Amendment Foundation and the Calguns Foundation filed suit several years ago to challenge the entire roster of what California calls "not unsafe" guns, and recently added microstamping to its suit. According to SAF founder Alan Gottlieb, they have made significant progress, and the latest news that Ruger will be unable to have their pistols approved reinforces the suit's claim that the roster, itself, is a violation of the Second Amendment rights of California citizens. That lawsuit is Ivan Pena, et. al v. Steven Lindley. (http://bit.ly/1dYP9hw). Lead attorney is Alan Gura, who argued the Heller and McDonald cases before the U.S. Supreme Court.

Also appearing on Gun Talk this Sunday is Max Michel, many-time speed shooting and national champion of USPSA and Steel Championship titles, and Sig Sauer team captain, to talk training and what's coming up for him in the new year, (http://maxmichel.com/).

Michigan Open Carry's Phillip Hofmeister, (http://www.miopencarry.org/), also visits this Sunday to discuss a $600,000 federal lawsuit filed by a citizen who was stopped by the police and held at gun point because he was carrying a firearm openly, which is not prohibited in Michigan. That encounter was captured on the police officer's dash cam. Read more here: http://bit.ly/19j7A0x.

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1 posted on 01/26/2014 4:46:42 PM PST by mylife
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To: MaxMax; 50cal Smokepole; Randy Larsen; lolhelp; waterhill; Clint N. Suhks; Envisioning; ...

Early oopsy post


2 posted on 01/26/2014 4:49:29 PM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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FReepmail to get On/Off the Gun Talk Pinglist


3 posted on 01/26/2014 4:50:32 PM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: mylife

4 posted on 01/26/2014 4:52:01 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog

Pow!!


5 posted on 01/26/2014 4:52:52 PM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: mylife

This CA microstamp law WILL mean no new SA handguns in CA. This is the biggest victory the grabbers could ever have dreamed of. Other blue states will surely follow suit.

I’m betting they next will require microstamping for all SA long guns. Stealth AWB.

Without relief from the courts, Californians will be down to single shot pellet guns soon.


6 posted on 01/26/2014 4:54:10 PM PST by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: mylife

I’m in!


7 posted on 01/26/2014 4:55:13 PM PST by RandallFlagg (IRS = Internal Revenge Service)
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To: umgud

S&W as well as Ruger have told CA to piss off.

They should do like Ronnie Barrett and go all the way.
No fire arms for LEOs or Feds


8 posted on 01/26/2014 4:57:09 PM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: RandallFlagg

Howdy.


9 posted on 01/26/2014 4:59:11 PM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: mylife; All

10 posted on 01/26/2014 5:00:52 PM PST by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: carriage_hill

Yo!


11 posted on 01/26/2014 5:02:01 PM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: mylife
I got the Browning X-bolt sighted in this week.


12 posted on 01/26/2014 5:02:22 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: umgud

“VaporWare” LOL!


13 posted on 01/26/2014 5:02:52 PM PST by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: smokingfrog

Sweet

100 yards?

Nice grouping.


14 posted on 01/26/2014 5:04:55 PM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: smokingfrog

Darn nice group. How far out?


15 posted on 01/26/2014 5:05:02 PM PST by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: smokingfrog

I want an MVP in 308 so bad.


16 posted on 01/26/2014 5:06:22 PM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: smokingfrog

Nice.


17 posted on 01/26/2014 5:06:41 PM PST by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: smokingfrog

Whats them three holes at the bottom? ;)


18 posted on 01/26/2014 5:08:51 PM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: mylife

That was the starting point. It was shooting to the left to begin with.


19 posted on 01/26/2014 5:10:38 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: mylife

Max Michel Action Shooting website:

http://maxmichel.com/


20 posted on 01/26/2014 5:11:18 PM PST by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: smokingfrog

The 3 at the bottom appear to be a different cal.


21 posted on 01/26/2014 5:11:34 PM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: smokingfrog

Very nice. Were you using the Nikon? How’d you like it?


22 posted on 01/26/2014 5:11:49 PM PST by davetex (Location: The Alamo)
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To: smokingfrog

Nice work.


23 posted on 01/26/2014 5:12:22 PM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: carriage_hill

That was 50 yd. My 100 yd target is about the same. I shot the 50 yd. off sandbags and the 100 yd. off the bipod. It was kind of windy, so I’m going to have to fine tune it with some better quality ammo and on a calm day.


24 posted on 01/26/2014 5:14:30 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: mylife

What are you waiting for? The Duck Commander version?


25 posted on 01/26/2014 5:15:32 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: carriage_hill

I want this guys job!

http://www.youtube.com/user/FPSRussia

Ivan... Ivan Attitude


26 posted on 01/26/2014 5:15:32 PM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: smokingfrog

Waiting for the price of .308 to come down.

The ol FAL hasn’t seen daylight in a dogs age.


27 posted on 01/26/2014 5:18:01 PM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: davetex
The Nikon works great!


28 posted on 01/26/2014 5:19:26 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: mylife

In like Flynn!


29 posted on 01/26/2014 5:21:13 PM PST by Clint N. Suhks (Even Forrest Gump got into Alabama...)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Hi There.


30 posted on 01/26/2014 5:22:47 PM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: mylife

He has my SCAR!


31 posted on 01/26/2014 5:23:53 PM PST by Clint N. Suhks (Even Forrest Gump got into Alabama...)
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To: smokingfrog

Those Nikon scopes are a great deal.


32 posted on 01/26/2014 5:24:36 PM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

He has my job!!!


33 posted on 01/26/2014 5:25:05 PM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: Clint N. Suhks
Ivan does Charlene
34 posted on 01/26/2014 5:27:00 PM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: smokingfrog

Sweet set up. That’s very nice.


35 posted on 01/26/2014 5:31:36 PM PST by davetex (Location: The Alamo)
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To: mylife
Ivan does Charlene

You'll shoot your eye out..I'd be afraid I'd blow my head off. They must spend a fortune on Mannequins.

36 posted on 01/26/2014 5:35:56 PM PST by sockmonkey (Of Course I didn't read the article. After all, this is FreeRepublic..)
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To: mylife

Holy Crap! Charlene packs a punch! I don’t see how the recoil doesn’t knock it out of the air.


37 posted on 01/26/2014 5:36:04 PM PST by Clint N. Suhks (Even Forrest Gump got into Alabama...)
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To: mylife

Shoot-N-See makes the holes look bigger.


38 posted on 01/26/2014 5:36:57 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: mylife

Evenin’ My.

I was out with the 4H group today. I’ve never had so many new shooters in one day before. Must have been 8 kids who shot a rifle for the very first time.

Lot’s of enjoyment all the way around.


39 posted on 01/26/2014 5:37:54 PM PST by Professional Engineer (I am not cynical. /s)
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This Micro stamping stuff is insane

Ca has just gone off the cliff.


40 posted on 01/26/2014 5:38:04 PM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: Professional Engineer

Hat tip for teaching the children.


41 posted on 01/26/2014 5:39:08 PM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Personally I would have trepidation to use Charlene.

She could bite back.
I never was good at flying RC planes.


42 posted on 01/26/2014 5:41:10 PM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: smokingfrog

I had considered that.


43 posted on 01/26/2014 5:42:03 PM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: sockmonkey

I hear ya brother.

This guy is having a hoot and has brass ones.


44 posted on 01/26/2014 5:43:19 PM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: mylife
Whats them three holes at the bottom? ;)

I tend to, "Walk," my shots on the target sometimes:
Shooting Revolvers Today(Video at link)
(Third, fourth and fifth shot on the left target)

On reactive targets, it saves space.
45 posted on 01/26/2014 5:43:49 PM PST by RandallFlagg (IRS = Internal Revenge Service)
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To: RandallFlagg

Frog explained it.

They just appeared to be a smaller cal to me.


46 posted on 01/26/2014 5:45:32 PM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: mylife

Did Tom talk about S&W is going to stop selling semi-autos in Kalifornia?


47 posted on 01/26/2014 5:47:00 PM PST by Clint N. Suhks (Even Forrest Gump got into Alabama...)
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To: RandallFlagg
You need a hair cut. ☺
48 posted on 01/26/2014 5:47:08 PM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: mylife

I thought he was the YT Russkie blow-’em-up YT shooter they found dead inside a business? Obviously not. Must have been another YT Russkie shooter.

It was:

http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/story/20538156/fpsrussia#axzz2rYjmxpoY


49 posted on 01/26/2014 5:47:37 PM PST by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Yup.
Ruger too.

But they are still selling to LEOS in Ca which I think is AFU.


50 posted on 01/26/2014 5:48:20 PM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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