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Chamber of Commerce: Conservatives the 'Problem' in Amnesty Battle
Breitbart ^ | 26 Jan 2014 | Tony Lee

Posted on 01/26/2014 8:31:20 PM PST by Mount Athos

The U.S. Chamber of Commerce said once again that conservatives were the "problem" when it came to passing immigration reform legislation with amnesty provisions.

“The left has never been the problem on this,” Randel Johnson, the chamber’s senior vice president, said on Friday during an immigration summit in Washington. “The right is the problem.”

As Breitbart News reported, that is why the Chamber is reportedly going to spend $50 million against the Tea Party, largely because the Tea Party opposes amnesty and comprehensive immigration reform. According to Bloomberg News, the Chamber of Commerce wants to "rewrite" the immigration laws because current laws limit "access to workers."

The Congressional Budget Office has determined that the Senate's immigration bill that the Chamber and its big-business allies covet would lower the wages of American workers, and Chamber of Commerce CEO Tom Donohue implied earlier this month that his group would try to make the Tea Party "feel some heat" in trying to push for some form of amnesty for the country's illegal immigrants. In addition, the group reportedly will again try to use evangelical groups to pressure conservatives on immigration issues. But as Breitbart News' Matthew Boyle has doggedly reported, many of the evangelical groups have been financed by those on the institutional left like George Soros.

President Barack Obama and House Republicans will try to push for immigration reform legislation after Obama's State of the Union Speech next week. Representatives from the Chamber of Commerce met with former New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, Michigan Republican Gov. Rick Snyder, and former Bush administration Commerce Secretary Carlos Gutierrez, who founded a super PAC that backs candidates who support amnesty, at an immigration summit last Friday ahead of Obama's address.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; chamberofcongress; conservatives; cronycapitalism

1 posted on 01/26/2014 8:31:20 PM PST by Mount Athos
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To: Mount Athos

The Chamber of Communism speaketh once more.


2 posted on 01/26/2014 8:34:39 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Mount Athos
One little fly in their ointment... the TEA party ain't a party.
3 posted on 01/26/2014 8:34:47 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The only way women can "have it all" is if men aren't allowed to have anything.)
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To: Mount Athos; Tennessee Nana; Liz; TADSLOS; EXCH54FE; GeronL; Travis McGee; jimbo123; ...
RE:”The U.S. Chamber of Commerce said once again that conservatives were the “problem” when it came to passing immigration reform legislation with amnesty provisions.
“The left has never been the problem on this,” Randel Johnson, the chamber’s senior vice president, said on Friday during an immigration summit in Washington. “The right is the problem.”
As Breitbart News reported, that is why the Chamber is reportedly going to spend $50 million against the Tea Party, largely because the Tea Party opposes amnesty and comprehensive immigration reform. According to Bloomberg News, the Chamber of Commerce wants to “rewrite” the immigration laws because current laws limit “access to workers.”

Are these the ‘job creators’ we were lectured about endlessly in 2012?

4 posted on 01/26/2014 8:36:24 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: Mount Athos

These are some of the Traitors pulling the strings of the GOP-E leadership.

The GOP apparently no longer represents the citizens they were sent to Washington to represent.

They now represent Corporations and whoever gives them the most money.


5 posted on 01/26/2014 8:41:36 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Mount Athos

Chamber of commerce I hope to ever be your problem.


6 posted on 01/26/2014 8:41:48 PM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: sickoflibs
because the Tea Party opposes amnesty and comprehensive immigration reform.

False dichotomy. It is entirely possible to have comprehensive immigration reform AND not have amnesty. Without passing a single law. Just enforce the ones on the books now.

It is like all the rest of the lies:

Conservatives oppose immigration (nope, only illegal border crossers)

Conservatives want families to be broken up (nope, better the whole family go together back to the home country).

7 posted on 01/26/2014 8:42:03 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Fight Tapinophobia in all its forms! Do not submit to arduus privilege.)
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To: sickoflibs

CHAMBER of AMNESTY-—GTH


8 posted on 01/26/2014 8:42:22 PM PST by magna carta
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To: Mount Athos

?Breitbart?

I imagine, without reading, they are expressing the opposition position.

It’s the republican battle, as the GOP is liberal and sides, in ALL arguments, with the dems, the libs.


9 posted on 01/26/2014 8:43:05 PM PST by stanne
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To: Mount Athos

Chamber of commerce I hope to ever be your problem.


10 posted on 01/26/2014 8:43:42 PM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: Mount Athos

Maybe we need to stop worrying so much about the taxes and regulations the COC crowd gets socked with....


11 posted on 01/26/2014 8:44:03 PM PST by Trod Upon (Every penny given to film and TV media companies goes right into enemy coffers. Starve them out!)
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To: Mount Athos
Limits access to workers

WTF???

Last I checked unemployment was (officially) around 8 percent in this country.

12 posted on 01/26/2014 8:46:50 PM PST by Dagnabitt (Amnesty is Treason. Its agents are Traitors.)
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To: Mount Athos

No, the problem is people who break the laws of the United States of America and then kick us in the teeth every chance they get. Give me this, give me that—they demand it.

The Chamber of Commerce isn’t any better—give me, give me. Guess what...there isn’t much more left to give or to take from this country. Business won’t matter two freakin’ cents if the tax paying citizens have are taxed to death to cover the illegals granted citizenship and the jobs that will go to the new citizens.

I forget who on FR said it but they posted about picking over the carcass of this country and that was darn accurate. Get our house in order here, respect the law abiding, tax paying CITIZENS here, then they can start to think about immigration.

We can’t afford to be bleeding hearts...we can’t AFFORD IT.


13 posted on 01/26/2014 8:47:03 PM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheelbarrow)
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To: Mount Athos

I notice they have dropped the “comprehensive immigration reform” lie and are now flat out calling it amnesty. Brazen little anti-American bung holes.


14 posted on 01/26/2014 8:47:54 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Mount Athos

Jeff Sessions wrote a great piece for USA Today (surprised the heck out of me they ran it). Via Drudge

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2014/01/26/sessions-immigration-reform-obama-gop-column/4917095/


15 posted on 01/26/2014 8:48:22 PM PST by KGeorge (Till we're together again, Gypsy girl. May 28, 1998- June 3, 2013)
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To: Mount Athos

Conservatives have flushed the cockroaches out into the light. They ain’t happy.


16 posted on 01/26/2014 8:51:18 PM PST by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: KGeorge

you should post that


17 posted on 01/26/2014 8:51:47 PM PST by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: Mount Athos

It’s time for the turds down at the Chamber of Commerce to come clean with the American people and tell us why amnesty is so important to them. It wouldn’t have anything to do with money, WOULD IT?


18 posted on 01/26/2014 8:54:56 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (ObamaCare. The "global warming" of healthcare plans.)
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To: Mount Athos

The Collective of Communists is killing the GOP. You cannot win elections peeing off the base of your party


19 posted on 01/26/2014 8:57:43 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (Amnesty And Not Ending ObamaCare Will Kill GOP In 2014)
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To: KGeorge

I just emailed that Sen. Sessions article plus a personal note to my representatives.

I hope the Chamber and its benefactors Gates, Soros, all incur the voters rage.

Its about squeezing the last bit of profit and depressing wages forever.


20 posted on 01/26/2014 9:17:14 PM PST by Zenjitsuman (New Boss Nancy Pelosi)
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To: KGeorge

They sometimes have a token conservative like Wayne LaPierre posting an article.


21 posted on 01/26/2014 9:42:31 PM PST by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: Mount Athos

“Randel Johnson, the chamber’s senior vice president, said on Friday during an immigration summit in Washington. “The right is the problem.”

You’re a problem, Randy. You. Personally.


22 posted on 01/26/2014 9:56:00 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Thought Puzzle: Describe Islam without using the phrase "mental disorder" more than four times.)
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To: Mount Athos

USA Today can’t be posted here. It’s part of Gannett.


23 posted on 01/26/2014 10:09:32 PM PST by upchuck (Stop this abuse now! Get behind Convention of States: http://bit.ly/1ak1Iz9)
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To: Trod Upon

Maybe that “living wage “ idea needs another look...


24 posted on 01/26/2014 10:44:29 PM PST by Kozak ("Send them back your fierce defiance! Stamp upon the cursed alliance! To arms, to arms in Dixie!)
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To: Mount Athos

25 posted on 01/27/2014 12:00:45 AM PST by Zakeet (If socialists understood economics, they wouldn't be socialists - Friedrich Hayek)
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To: Mount Athos

The first rule of the Tea Party is that there is no Tea Party.


26 posted on 01/27/2014 12:56:42 AM PST by oblomov
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To: Mount Athos

Chamber of Commerce: Conservatives the ‘Problem’ in Amnesty Battle

Actually that would be Americans..


27 posted on 01/27/2014 1:22:20 AM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sign up for the American Revolution 2014 and the Crusades 2014?)
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To: Mount Athos

Everyone should boycott every business that belongs to that organization!


28 posted on 01/27/2014 1:52:35 AM PST by dalereed
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To: Irenic

The Chamber of Commerce isn’t any better—give me, give me. Guess what...there isn’t much more left to give or to take from this country. Business won’t matter two freakin’ cents if the tax paying citizens have are taxed to death to cover the illegals granted citizenship and the jobs that will go to the new citizens.

I forget who on FR said it but they posted about picking over the carcass of this country and that was darn accurate. Get our house in order here, respect the law abiding, tax paying CITIZENS here, then they can start to think about immigration.

We can’t afford to be bleeding hearts...we can’t AFFORD IT.


I agree with you.

Much of our current problems I believe can be traced right back to the Ivy league schools and the creation and introduction of the MBA degree. Masters in Business Administration is what it stands for, (I think). The main ideas pushed in the MBA degree were streamlining for efficiency and the SHORT TERM bottom line.

And that sort of thinking works when there is a lot of fat in the the system. Fat is easier to cut and to show an immediate profit. Well guess what... It worked; now though to make short term profits even bigger you need to cut muscle. Muscle in this case is the hardest and most productive of your workers.

If someone gets sick or takes a vacation a business has to add on overtime or hire part-time or temporary workers to cover that loss in productivity.

What these MBA trained ‘managers’ have now latched onto as their solution to the lack of fat in their corporations and businesses is the idea of hiring ‘low cost’ ie. Low Paying workers. and the way to get them is to bring them in from out of the country in droves.

What they still don’t realize is that SOMEONE has to buy their products they are selling! And if the common American can’t buy the products made here in America then no matter how much they cut and how many low cost workers they bring in, their businesses are going to go bankrupt and that is that.

Of course the top executives won’t and don’t care; they’ve already ‘got theirs’ and yours and mine too. But the destruction and poisoned ground they have left on America will linger on for many generations to come.

And all because of a flawed line of reasoning from a left leaning ‘elite’ Ivy School system. Who said an idea couldn’t change the whole world given enough time and money behind it?


29 posted on 01/27/2014 2:49:23 AM PST by The Working Man
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To: Olog-hai
"Immigration Reform"....

"Establishment Republicans" get cheap labor and Democrats get cheap votes!

Sheeple screwed...., again? (Rhetorical question, of course...)

30 posted on 01/27/2014 3:01:06 AM PST by ExSES (the "bottom-line")
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To: freedumb2003

But your solution would require the Executive Branch to stop issuing EOs and enforce the law. Nice fantasy, but too many potential voters are at stake for either party to do what the Constitution actually requires.


31 posted on 01/27/2014 4:02:47 AM PST by Pecos (The Chicago Way: Kill the Constitution, one step at a time.)
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To: Mount Athos

Is the Chamber Of Commerce talking about the 92 million Americans who are NOT working,someone give the Chamber Of Commerce the phone numbers of the unemployment agencies across the country so they can gain ACCESS to them


32 posted on 01/27/2014 4:04:46 AM PST by ballplayer
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To: Zakeet

33 posted on 01/27/2014 5:18:16 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Mount Athos
The U.S. Chamber of Commerce said once again that conservatives were the "problem" when it came to passing immigration reform legislation with amnesty provisions importing millions of low payed workers despite high unemployment among Americans.
34 posted on 01/27/2014 5:48:21 AM PST by Petrosius
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To: Trod Upon
Maybe we need to stop worrying so much about the taxes and regulation the COC crowd get socked with

When it was about keeping taxes for higher earners from rising, they went all "tea party" and got the conservatives to support them. Once they got that, they forgot all about us. Now, those jobs they could afford to create aren't being created, until they can get cheap compliant invader labor.

I wonder if the Chamber of Commerce even cares all that much about regulations. They do stop competition against those established businesses from arising.

Besides that, you've got Chamber of Commerce cheerleaders co-opting the dissent and claiming the "tea party" was formed primarily to keep taxes low. Conservative outrage came into play with people who were and still are disgusted with the invasion of the US. It's time that we correct these infiltractors every time they strive to co-opt our constitutional conservative goals.

35 posted on 01/27/2014 5:58:41 AM PST by grania
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To: Mount Athos

In a perfect Chamber of Commerce world, every eating place would be a fast food franchise. Walmart the only store in town. No small businesses. Everything staffed with illegal third worlders. That would be the perfect Chamber of Commerce America, their vision.


36 posted on 01/27/2014 6:01:40 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Mount Athos; Zenjitsuman; ObamahatesPACoal

Mount Athos- I did try. USA Today articles are banned. Per my comment, can’t say I disagree with that, really.

Zenjitsuman- Good thinkin’, Dobe! (Dobie Gillis reference) I think I’ll do that, too. (I’m lucky enough to have Cruz & to some extent, Cornyn, & Lamar Smith)
I don’t think anyone’s mind has changed since the last time they tried to pull this. Well, except that we have a “few” more illegals.
That, too. I’m more inclined toward Cloward Piven, but then I’ve been on an Anti Commies tear since at least 2009. You may be more right than me.

ObamahatesPACoal- I wrote them off a while back. Sometimes I read the comments, though.


37 posted on 01/27/2014 8:37:39 AM PST by KGeorge (Till we're together again, Gypsy girl. May 28, 1998- June 3, 2013)
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