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Militants Down Egyptian Helicopter, Killing 5 Soldiers
New York Times ^ | January 26, 2014 | DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK

Posted on 01/26/2014 9:19:25 PM PST by Seizethecarp

Islamist militants shot down an Egyptian military helicopter in the Sinai Peninsula with a surface-to-air missile over the weekend, raising new alarms about the terrorist insurgency that developed there in response to the military takeover last summer.

The attack — described by witnesses, documented in a video released by the militants, and confirmed by three people briefed on the Egyptian government’s investigation — validated longstanding fears that such weapons would spill into Egypt and beyond after the Libyan civil war tore open Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi’s fearsome arsenals.

Known as manpads, for man-portable air defense systems, the missiles can bring down commercial airliners if they are flying at low altitude, as during takeoff and landing.

Ansar Beit al-Maqdis, a militant group based in Sinai that has claimed responsibility for an escalating series of attacks on police and soldiers, said in a statement posted on jihadist websites that it had succeeded in “downing a military helicopter with a surface-to-air missile and killing its entire crew in the area around the city of Sheikh Zuweid” in North Sinai, near the border with Gaza. The group, which quotes Al Qaeda leaders in its online video statements, said it had targeted the aircraft “in an area clear of residents to preserve the lives of Muslims.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Egypt; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; benghazi; bhomiddleeast; egypt; islam; manpad; muslims; obamasfault; sinai; surfacetoair; terrorists; wot

1 posted on 01/26/2014 9:19:25 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp

The NY Times article mentions Libya as a source for the manpad but omits reference to the mystery Benghazi CIA activities.

Youtube claiming to show the shoot-down:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52FSbORUEp8&feature=youtu.be

“Ansar Beit Al-Maqdis released a video on Sunday night that appeared to show one of its fighters firing the missile, and the burning aircraft falling from the sky.”


2 posted on 01/26/2014 9:22:40 PM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Seizethecarp

Some of those Stinger missiles that 0bama gave his brothers in the Muslim Brotherhood?


3 posted on 01/26/2014 9:22:49 PM PST by LegendHasIt
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To: Seizethecarp

...must be test driving the latest shipment of the Libyan imports...


4 posted on 01/26/2014 9:23:06 PM PST by castlebrew (Gun Control means hitting where you're aiming!))
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To: Seizethecarp

From the article:

“All the pilots there operate under the assumption that they can be targeted,” Mr. Yaari said. “We have known for a long time that those guys in the Sinai have a lot of manpads from Libya.”

“Late on Saturday, however, Sameh Seif el-Yazal, an outside expert who has often acted as a mouthpiece for the Egyptian military, said in a television interview that the helicopter had been shot down by a missile, which he described as a Russian-made Strela 2 — a form of manpad that was very common in Libya after Colonel Qaddafi fell. On Sunday, two people briefed on the Egyptian investigation confirmed that account.

“A senior American official said preliminary evidence indicated that the helicopter had been shot down by a shoulder-fired missile, probably of the type that Russians call a Strela 2 and NATO calls an SA-7.”


5 posted on 01/26/2014 9:25:00 PM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Seizethecarp

GMTA


6 posted on 01/26/2014 9:25:38 PM PST by LegendHasIt
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To: Seizethecarp

Manpads..... Sounds like some sanitary product for men who really want to be tough, rugged....... Manpads.


7 posted on 01/26/2014 9:32:36 PM PST by lbryce (Obama:The Worst is Yet To Come)
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To: Seizethecarp
Obammy's own lil war. How nice.


8 posted on 01/26/2014 9:32:55 PM PST by Delta 21 (If you like your freedom, you can keep your freedom. Period.)
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To: Seizethecarp

MANPADS from Benghazi, perchance?


9 posted on 01/26/2014 9:37:27 PM PST by null and void (We need to shake this snowglobe up.)
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To: LegendHasIt
Stinger missiles

If that vid is real, it is an SA-7.

10 posted on 01/26/2014 9:37:59 PM PST by xone
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To: Delta 21
Deathflag photo Deathflag_zps3059f9b9.jpg
11 posted on 01/26/2014 9:38:47 PM PST by null and void (We need to shake this snowglobe up.)
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To: xone

I’ll defer to your expertise. Can’t watch videos where I am at the moment.


12 posted on 01/26/2014 9:42:08 PM PST by LegendHasIt
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To: Seizethecarp

Pro and anti-Morsi/MB Egyptian Muslims are really going at it in the comments on this video!


13 posted on 01/26/2014 9:42:41 PM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Seizethecarp

Coming soon to an airport near you! Thanks Obama and Hillary!


14 posted on 01/26/2014 9:43:56 PM PST by Dogbert41 (Up yours NSA !)
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To: null and void

Looks like it...

http://www.wnd.com/2013/06/benghazi-descends-into-chaos-under-u-s-backed-regime/

WND:

Peter Bouckaert, the emergency director at Human Rights Watch, confirmed to WND in an interview an Associated Press report Monday that Russian-made SA-7 portable, shoulder-fired surface-to-air missile systems, known as MANPADS, that likely came from Gadhafi’s arms depots in Libya are now in the possession of Islamic terrorists in Mali who have links to al-Qaida.

“I visited a lot of the weapons storage facilities in Libya after the fall of Gadhafi, and I found that a lot of the MANPADS were missing,” Bouckaert explained. “We also had the shipping documents from Russia. For many years, Russia was one of the main weapons suppliers to Gadhafi. We raised the alarm about the missing weapons back then.”

Bouckaert also confirmed there were Russian SA-7 MANPADS in the three cartons of weapons and ammunition confiscated in April 2012, when Lebanon intercepted the cargo vessel Luftfallah II, registered in Sierra Leone. The ship had departed from Libya bound for the Free Syrian Army, a coalition of rebel fighters seeking to oust Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.


15 posted on 01/26/2014 9:47:12 PM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Seizethecarp

What difference does it make???

It would certainly be a feather in State’s cap for Egypt to indict the Hildabeast...


16 posted on 01/26/2014 9:57:00 PM PST by null and void (We need to shake this snowglobe up.)
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To: null and void

There’s probably a number of people on this site that think the trouble in Benghazi ended the night of the attack on our embassy and ambassador. I think it’s an easy thing to do. Truth is, it’s a hot-bed of trouble now and will be for a long time to come.

So for Libya and Egypt, thanks Mr. President. Thanks for introducing new weapons into the region, ones that will undoubtedly be used to kill hundreds if not thousands of our citizens and allies over the next decade.

Obama, the Islamic answer to how the U. S. would be ruled by an Islamic Cleric.


17 posted on 01/26/2014 10:13:18 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Obama, the Islamic answer to how the U. S. would be ruled by an Islamic Cleric.)
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To: Seizethecarp

Manpads supplied to the islamists by Obama? Likely. But what difference does it make?! /Clinton


18 posted on 01/26/2014 10:15:51 PM PST by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: Seizethecarp

What is the difference between an Islamist and a member of the Muslim Brotherhood?


19 posted on 01/26/2014 10:20:48 PM PST by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: Cowboy Bob

All MB are Islamists, but not all Islamists are MB...


20 posted on 01/26/2014 10:39:23 PM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Seizethecarp

hussein obama, jarret, powers, soros. Their plan is working.


21 posted on 01/26/2014 11:22:17 PM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: xone

Isn’t the Strela a knock-off of the old redeye?


22 posted on 01/27/2014 12:27:13 AM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: Eagles6

Can’t help but wonder if any of these will show up at the Winter Olympics.


23 posted on 01/27/2014 12:31:42 AM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: Seizethecarp

I tend to agree with the commenter who said it looked like a miss coincident with the on-board counter measures malfunctioning. I didn’t see any actual point of impact. Comments?


24 posted on 01/27/2014 1:09:16 AM PST by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: ArmstedFragg
A great deal of the older Russian handhelds are so old the warhead are inert. This doesn't mean they won't fire, track and put a very nice whole in your aircraft. We do the same thing with the Stinger as it has a good tell date on it. That way years later we will not have them used on us.
25 posted on 01/27/2014 5:43:05 AM PST by lostboy61 (Lock and Load and stand your ground!)
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To: fella

Yes, back when the Sovs actually had to steal our tech.


26 posted on 01/27/2014 7:54:12 AM PST by xone
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To: ArmstedFragg
on-board counter measures malfunctioning

No kidding, if it can't deke an SA-7.

I didn't see any actual point of impact

The motor had burned out so the plume disappears. Flying too high and as you said ECM inoperable. Said 5 officers dead, crew chief now an officer?

27 posted on 01/27/2014 10:38:49 AM PST by xone
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