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Warning issued on killer heroin: Deadly batch of heroin kills at least 17 in area [barf alert]
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ^ | January 26, 2014 | Janice Crompton

Posted on 01/27/2014 12:21:53 AM PST by grundle

Experts are warning about a potent and deadly batch of heroin that is suspected in the deaths of at least 17 people in Allegheny and surrounding counties during the past week.

One local medical examiner is calling the outbreak of overdoses a "major public health crisis."

Medical examiners suspect heroin, in stamp bags marked in red ink with the word "Theraflu," is causing deadly overdoses because it contains the powerful narcotic fentanyl.

Allegheny County officials issued a warning about the deadly combination on Friday, when nine people died of suspected overdoses, but since then, county medical examiner Karl Williams said five more fatalities have come through his door, showing signs of an overdose.

Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/local/region/2014/01/26/Allegheny-County-medical-examiner-calls-rash-of-apparent-overdose-deaths-a-major-public-health-crisis/stories/201401260193#ixzz2raL4gvzE

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I completey disagree with the claim that this is a "major public health crisis." It's not contagious. It's not catchy. It's not genetic. It is 100% completely, totally avoidable. There is no "major public health crisis."
1 posted on 01/27/2014 12:21:53 AM PST by grundle
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To: grundle

Actually, the deaths being avoidable are a reason why it is called a public health crisis. Opposition to addiction and illegal drugs should not lead us to indifference to the welfare of or scorn for those who are addicted and to needless deaths among them.


2 posted on 01/27/2014 12:30:43 AM PST by Rockingham
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To: Rockingham; All

This is a public health crisis like the tylenol poisoning scare years ago. A man I knew stopped using heroin, finished law school, and then to celebrate he got high. It killed him because he used his old large addicted dose, which his recovered body could not handle.


3 posted on 01/27/2014 12:48:36 AM PST by gleeaikin
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To: gleeaikin
The Tylenol thing was a murder crisis. And they never did figure out who did it.
4 posted on 01/27/2014 12:52:20 AM PST by grundle
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To: Rockingham
Opposition to addiction and illegal drugs should not lead us to indifference to the welfare of or scorn for those who are addicted

Well of course there needs to be societal scorn for those that voluntarily take heroin (and that's all of them).

Without societal scorn they are just choosing an 'alternative lifestyle'.

I don't want to pay to have these idiots weaned off their habit, but I will because I'm a taxpayer and it's cheaper to treat the ones that are still salvageable, versus having them self-destruct and take some of us with them through crimes or reckless endangerment of others.

5 posted on 01/27/2014 1:03:27 AM PST by zipper ("The Second Amendment IS my carry permit!" -- Ted Nugent)
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To: Rockingham

I do not rejoice in any of their needless deaths. On the other hand, I do not believe for one second, that anyone in America does not know drugs are no good. Everyone knows this, so if they still stick themselves with bad drugs, I do not know how sorry I should be. I guess I feel as sorry for them, as I do for anyone else who commits suicide. It does not have to happen, but it is suicide, whether it is a fast suicide, or a slow one, it does not have to happen. Don’t do drugs.


6 posted on 01/27/2014 1:04:07 AM PST by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
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To: grundle

Unless people are being forcibly injected, there is no “public health crisis”.


7 posted on 01/27/2014 1:05:38 AM PST by meadsjn
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To: grundle
I will guess that several mid-level drug dealers just got the death penalty - but not from a court.

Tonight, low level dealers in Pittsburgh are ratting out everybody they know so they don't end up doing a life sentence.

At the top end, the “boss” is not sitting around waiting for bad news to knock on his front door.

His direct subordinates are either dead or running for their lives.

8 posted on 01/27/2014 1:06:33 AM PST by zeestephen
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To: grundle

This just in: Smack will kill you. Film at 11.


9 posted on 01/27/2014 1:25:46 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: grundle
The Tylenol thing was a murder crisis. And they never did figure out who did it.

No they never did. There was, however, another case they did solve, where some nut case poisoned his neighbors, because he wanted them to move. He has been on death row for a long time.

10 posted on 01/27/2014 1:30:31 AM PST by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
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To: grundle

It should happen to every druggie!!!


11 posted on 01/27/2014 1:30:42 AM PST by dalereed
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To: grundle
It is 100% completely, totally avoidable.

It's a CHOICE. Since RATs insist on choice...

12 posted on 01/27/2014 1:32:12 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: grundle

I agree with you.. actually it’s helping to clean out the scum so the smart thing would be to remain silent.


13 posted on 01/27/2014 2:17:13 AM PST by maddog55
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To: grundle

heroin that is suspected in the deaths of at least 17 people in Allegheny

This is a problem HOW????


14 posted on 01/27/2014 2:35:16 AM PST by bikerman (Obama! if his lips are moving he's lying.)
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To: All

Addiction is not a choice. I’ve seen a lot of good people taken by the grips of it.

They weren’t morally weak in character or any of that other BS

Many people just don’t understand how addiction works.

People don’t live that way because they like it.

I used to think the same way until I started dating an intake coordinator at a Methadone clinic about 30 years ago.

She explained a lot to me and it really was an eye opener.

Opiate addiction is very treatable with Methadone and with Suboxone, but the cost and the strict clinic rules are not always a viable option for many.

For those that it is, many go on to lead normal, productive lives.


15 posted on 01/27/2014 2:41:12 AM PST by Rodney Dangerfield ("America is the greatest country on Earth and we intend to change that" - Barack Obama)
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To: grundle

Off the subject, but does anyone know what happened to the flu medication with the trade name Theraflu? I have not seen it in the drug stores for a couple years.


16 posted on 01/27/2014 3:04:28 AM PST by OldPossum ("It's" is the contraction of "it" and "is"; think about ITS implications.)
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To: OldPossum

Taken off the shelves because it was laced with too much bad heroin? /s


17 posted on 01/27/2014 3:07:56 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: grundle

And the gubbmints answer to drug addiction is legalize drugs like pot as they bemoan the loss of life with illegal drugs as a health emergency. How much you want to bet these heroin junkies carry a pot prescription card ?


18 posted on 01/27/2014 3:09:02 AM PST by redcatcherb412
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To: Mark17

A firefighter friend of mine got a part-time job driving a taxi. Our local taxi company has a government contract to take welfare recipients on Medicade to their methadone appointments. Free ride and free high for them, all paid for by us.


19 posted on 01/27/2014 3:49:07 AM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Mark17

“Don’t do drugs” is not what you mean, because over 100 adult Americans are doing all sorts of psychoactive drugs, most with prescriptions.

What you mean is:

Be an obedient Soviet citizen, and don’t do drugs that have not been approved by the federal government.


20 posted on 01/27/2014 4:03:11 AM PST by BCrago66
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To: OldPossum

I was just in Walmart the other day looking for Theraflu for my wife and the pharmacist said it was no longer manufactured so I buy Alka-Seltzer Plus which appeared to be the closest thing to Theraflu. Two days later, I see a commercial for Alka-Seltzer Plus asking “Can’t find Theraflu? Try Alka-Seltzer Plus”. Hmmmm.


21 posted on 01/27/2014 4:11:40 AM PST by mikey_hates_everything
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To: Rodney Dangerfield
“Addiction is not a choice. I’ve seen a lot of good people taken by the grips of it.

They weren’t morally weak in character or any of that other BS”

Unless the addiction happens as the result of someone being forcibly tied down and injected with heroin, it most certainly is the logical result of a choice. I'll concede that there are some that become addicted as a result of their trying to alleviate physical pain.
The vast majority become addicted because they sought to get high.

22 posted on 01/27/2014 4:15:54 AM PST by bitterohiogunclinger (Proudly casting a heavy carbon footprint as I clean my guns ---)
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To: grundle
There is no "major public health crisis."

Unless you consider that for the democrat party, "every vote counts"...

23 posted on 01/27/2014 4:16:37 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: grundle
...the brown acid that is circulating around us, is not, specifically, too good.
24 posted on 01/27/2014 4:32:34 AM PST by Rodamala
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To: grundle

Just when the prisons were complaining they could no longer buy the juice for lethal injections, the free market comes along to fill the void :-)


25 posted on 01/27/2014 4:40:29 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Caipirabob

But the death of the voter usually isn’t a significant obstacle in the eyes of the Democrat Party.


26 posted on 01/27/2014 4:55:00 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia (Democrats: The perfect party for the helpless and stupid, and those who would rule over them.)
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To: grundle

No one is forced to use the stuff. If they don’t use it they aren’t affected. I’m trying, but I can’t feel any sympathy for users.


27 posted on 01/27/2014 5:37:53 AM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: grundle

I’ve read the article and the comments (through 27) and just can’t come up with any reason why a drug oeverdose death is a bad thing.

These people (most probably every single one of them) Chose to take the first injection of this drug. They chose to take the first pill of whatever drug lead them into this and they chose to smoke the pot that lead them into the drug culture in the first place.

These people chose to destroy their lives and die. How is it a bad thing when they finally do? I’m sure they were given the chance to get clean. It’s not like we’ve not been banging the “don’t do drugs” drum for the last 30 years.

This was just a small cleansing of the gene pool


28 posted on 01/27/2014 6:03:05 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: grundle

This is one reason places like Singapore execute drug traffickers.


29 posted on 01/27/2014 6:05:45 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Rodney Dangerfield

It was their CHOICE to take that first hit of heroin.


30 posted on 01/27/2014 6:06:15 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: BCrago66

Don’t put words in my mouth. You know very well what I meant. I am a cold warrior, so don’t talk to me about the Soviet Union.


31 posted on 01/27/2014 6:06:54 AM PST by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
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To: goodwithagun
Free ride and free high for them, all paid for by us.

What a country.

32 posted on 01/27/2014 6:07:36 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: goodwithagun
Free ride and free high for them, all paid for by us.

I had thyroid surgery 3 years ago. They prescribed some pain killer. I took one but did not like the side affects, so I stopped and just put up with the pain for a week. I worked in the medical dept in the joint, so I saw my share of OD deaths. These nerds liked their methadone too.

33 posted on 01/27/2014 6:31:33 AM PST by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
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To: dfwgator
What a country.

Yes sir Yakov. What did he say, in America, you can always find a party. In Soviet Union, party always finds you. I wonder if he ever went back to Russia?

34 posted on 01/27/2014 6:38:23 AM PST by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
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To: Rodney Dangerfield

Addiction is not a choice. I’ve seen a lot of good people taken by the grips of it.


I understand your points and it is true. BUT, it is also true that the addiction is a result of many small prior decisions.


35 posted on 01/27/2014 7:10:37 AM PST by PeterPrinciple
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To: mikey_hates_everything

Hmmm is right. I wonder whether Alka-Seltzer and Theraflu are made by the same pharmaceutical company?


36 posted on 01/27/2014 10:33:30 AM PST by OldPossum ("It's" is the contraction of "it" and "is"; think about ITS implications.)
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To: Mark17; zipper; gleeaikin

Even as we oppose and condemn addiction, addicts themselves are often salvageable, and even when they prove to be not salvageable, they still merit concern and protection for humane and moral reasons.


37 posted on 01/27/2014 1:48:27 PM PST by Rockingham
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To: Rodney Dangerfield; grundle

My view towards these people is slightly different than yours. I see them as having moved on to a better life. One where they aren’t addicted to anything. Therefore I don’t feel sorrow for them having killed themselves through a foolish mistake.


38 posted on 01/27/2014 4:37:31 PM PST by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: Mark17

nope. He’s still got a theater in Branson MO doing two shows a night and three on the weekends


39 posted on 01/28/2014 5:29:45 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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