Skip to comments.Germany to play bigger military role
Posted on 01/27/2014 1:03:43 AM PST by Olog-hai
Germanys military is to be deployed more frequently on foreign operations, defense minister Ursula von der Leyen said on Sunday. [ ]
Opposition parties accused von der Leyen of changing tack and her comments mark a stark shift to the policy pursued by former Foreign Minister Gudio Westerwelle, who sought to keep German troops out of war zones.
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The French better plant more trees in Paris. Germans like to march in the shade...
Once all the Germans were warlike and mean,
But that couldn’t happen again.
We taught them a lesson in nineteen eighteen,
And they’ve hardly bothered us since then.
— Tom Lehrer
I am a little queasy about the Wehrmacht being on the march again.
Germans are craftsmen, not soldiers in their soul. The only militant tribe were Prussians run by Junker aristocracy who has suppressed the rest under their flags.
AFAIK Stalin has killed the entire Prussian population after WWII, buldozed the place and shared the lot between Poland and Russia.
Germans aren’t called Eurowennies for nothing ever since.
Hitler despised them.
Germany is winning WW3. That would be the war of global economic domination.
Well, Hitler was a narcissist populist politician, not a great military strategistin the first place. His biggest mistake was that he started to believe his own propaganda. He should have listened to Prussian generals instead.
Who probably would have talked him out of expanding the war after their conquered Poland.
I think France alone was enough to restore their pride damaged in Versailles.
Poland and Soviet Union made little sense militarily but attacking both was absolutely instrumental in terms of Hitler’s ‘Final solution’ and ‘Leibenstraum’ goals.
Hitler thought that after seeing how quickly Germany defeated Poland (with the help of the Soviet Union), that Britain and France would quickly sue for peace.
If fighting is sure to result in victory, then you must fight, even though the ruler forbid it; if fighting will not result in victory, then you must not fight even at the rulers bidding. Art Of War X:23The generals could not have feared the Führer to the point of not heeding that sound military advice, could they have?
“Don’t mention the war.”
Even some of the generals told Hitler not to retake the Rhineland.
Everytime Hitler got away with it (Rhineland, Sudetenland, Austria, Czechoslovakia), the generals knew that opposing Hitler was pointless when it came time to execute “Fall Weiss”.
I’ll bet they wouldn’t be suiting up if we hadn’t stolen all the gold the entrusted to us.
We have eclipsed Russia as the world’s number one, non-muslim enemy.
Always good news.
In what respect?
Germany historically has done military things well, unfortunately that hasn’t been true of their politics.
You can’t divorce military exploits from politics. Like Churchill said, the history of man is war.
Clausewitz said something similar. If always true, the world shouldn't fear Germany currently.
Looks like you don’t understand what’s going on there.
Really, the Nazis back?
We didn’t fight Nazis in WWI, remember.
The European Union is expansionist. Germany’s politicians are quite on board with the expansionism, even if the people are not.
Germany also had the Kaiser and royalty epitomized the combatants on both sides. They re-fought set piece actions of the Civil War and the Franco-Prussian wars. Non-mechanized wars of attrition characterized by the noteworthy lack of maneuver.
The European Union is expansionist.
The EU has disjointed leadership, huge differences in producing states vs welfare states. A military organization that has no esprit where the only history belongs to the units of the disparate states. It cannot project power, its capabilities lie in the range of peacekeeping. It is bordered on the east by a power that has an old but credible force that has some experience. As you have noted, the German people have no taste for war. To where would the EU expand? Africa? I'd welcome that over our involvement there as a counterpoint to the Chi-Coms.
What royalty did the USA represent in WWI?
The very creation of the EU was an exercise in expansionism. They went from 11 states in 1992 to 28 today; a big part of that was the unnecessary war in the Balkans. As for Africa, take a look at what the EU is doing there (e.g. Central African Republic, Mali).
I also did not say that “the German people have no taste for war”I said that the elites are currently going against the will of the people. That can change, though, and the elites have plans to effect such a change. For the record, the Bundeswehr has been second behind the USA in terms of overseas military deployments for a while.
We’ve pushed most of the monetary systems in the world into a state of chaos. If they don’t print in response to our relentless printing, their goods become too expensive against other exporters.
If they print, they go into an inflationary cycle that destroys their middle class.
It’s like taking over their country without firing a shot.
Who took over where? and what does this have to do with the subject?
Didn’t Stalin deport the Prussians as opposed to killing them?
Germany said there were about 110 thousand civilians left after WWII, a majority died because of decease and malnutrition in a period of 1945-1947, remaining 20-25 thousand deported to Germany in 1948.
Russians said there were 129 thousand Germans left, 102 thousand deported in period of 1947-October 1948. Remaining groups were rounded up and deported until 1951 (about 200 people). About a thousand Germans under 14 yo who had no relatives in either Konigsberg or mainland Germany were kept and sent to orphanages or adopted in Russia.