Skip to comments.Minimum Wage Bills Pushed in at Least 30 States
Posted on 01/27/2014 1:26:34 AM PST by Olog-hai
Minimum-wage increase proposals are getting the maximum push from Democrats in statehouses in more than half of U.S. states, highlighting the politically potent income inequality issue this year.
Lawmakers in at least 30 states are sponsoring or are expected to introduce wage hike measures, according to a national review by The Associated Press. They hope to notch state-level victories as President Barack Obama and congressional Democrats remain stymied in attempts to raise the federal minimum wage above $7.25 an hour. The president is expected to mention the minimum wage in his State of the Union address Tuesday.
Even in Republican-dominated capitals where the bills are long shots, the measures still give Democrats a chance to hammer home the popular theme of fair wages in what is an election year in most places.
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Dems picked a good issue that GOP needs to watch carefully. Future trends show that technology will allow for further automation of the workplace. Up to 40 percent of current jobs can be automated. It will happen even if wages are low because corporations can do it. Robots can work 24/7, are very precise, and you do not have to provide it with healthcare, etc etc etc. That means more Americans will be unemployed while the labor savings will be pocketed by the corporation and bonuses will increase for CEO and exec staff. Income gap will grow with automation because the wealth and profit will be shared with fewer people, the employed and the ones on top. Income inequality will become an issue as time goes on and automation proceeds. Dems recognize this and are getting ahead of it, while the GOP assumes it will go away.
What is your solution? Will raising the minimum wage a couple of bucks solve “income inequality”?
And we ain’t one of ‘em. We have jobs here and if you’re stuck at the minimum wage, maybe there’s a reason for that.
Don’t mislabel job loss as “income inequality”. The latter means the socialist goal of grabbing from “the rich” and handing the wealth previously held thereby to “the poor”.
The GOP is complicit with the Dems. They’ve worked hard to sideline conservatives and are all about the one-party state.
Robot hamburger factory makes 360 Gourmet Burgers every hour...
A more important priority is assuring that US jobs go to US citizens. Send home all invaders and all other non-citizens who are doing jobs US citizens could do. EVerify all jobs.
Supporting the minimum wage as it is now is a disaster in the making. It'll allow the dems to campaign on how much most US citizens are suffering while the rich get richer and more powerful. Better to campaign on how the dems want foreigners to take jobs from hard-working US citizens.
Picture the scenario. Automation replaces 40 percent of current jobs, including good tech jobs. The jobs leftover have more applicants then openings. Income drops. How do you think the ones who just lost their good paying job to a robot, and now facing prospect of a job with low pay is going to react to a socialist politician? Read how Hitler and Mao came to power. Economic conditions play a key role in their rise. Dems are going to use living wage as an issue, what will the GOP offer the worker?
The Descamisado or Shirtless Ones.
Both of them picked the Federal Reserve to print up money and give to them to spend. As long as that continues, there will be no economic recovery and there will be gross widening of the "income" gap as the Fed and the politicians prefer handing money to the already wealthy in the lame hope that they will invest and create jobs. Instead there is more speculation and more inequality.
This is how the unions will pick up on more money coming in from union wages being raised accordingly. Higher wages means more income from dues. The money will support Democrat races.
Less and less jobs. More and more people forced onto the dole. And since minimum wage jobs are a big part of giving people their first employment opportunities, many folks will never even get started working. But that’s ok. Obammy will give them all “ free” birth control with their welfare cheques, good stamps , and free obamaphones. An entire generation of Sandra flukes. The “ transformation of AmerikaSSR”.
The increase for one employee will cost another 3 months of health care insurance.
Years ago I read that in the 1950’s the average CEO made 25 times the average pay of the average line worker. Course this was when we actually made things, not like now when moving paper around seems to be the main source of income.
I am interested in finding out if the ratio I remember was accurate and what the ratio is at this time. 300 times, 1000 times, what is your guess and where would such numbers be kept, if they are at all? I really don’t care what the magic number is because there will always be income inequality. Jesus said the poor will always be with you. That tells me the whole debate is phony.
There’s no such thing s income inequality and low paying jobs are a training ground if you want to learn.
There is income capability. You get paid based on your capabilities to perform and your want and need to get ahead in life.
We’re all born equal, what you choose to do with that is up to you.
I repeat - what is your solution?
the politically potent income inequality issue this year
If the Democrats think they are getting hammered on Obamacare just wait until they start yapping about this day and night.
If jobs are produced income will be had. Talking about income inequilty will not put food on anyones table.......
Future trends show that technology will allow for further automation of the workplace.
As has happened numerous times in history.
We no longer have bugy whip factories and probably few buggy factories.. Not much need for TV antenna factories anymore..
Fee’s solution is the same as it was for the makers of the wagon wheel, buck skin coats, buggy whips and so forth. We didn’t get to the moon with buggy whips. We got there by pressing technology, but nobody cares about all the spinoffs that came from it now are they?
New technology requires not so much for someone to operate it, but more so for someone to design, build and maintain it. People like Fee have this problem of zero sum thinking without a whit of sense about how he/she/it manages to turn on their computers or what went into making it react in such a manner. Nothing but a bunch of petulant fools who are forever looking for the problem instead of focusing on a solution.
Robots can work 24/7, are very precise, and you do not have to provide it with healthcare, etc etc etc. That means more Americans will be unemployed while the labor savings will be pocketed by the corporation and bonuses will increase for CEO and exec staff.........................
The problem with this scenario is that if no one is employed then no one is going to be buying what the robots produce and the CEO will get nothing...
Small businesses will be hardest hit. Eventually prices of goods & services will have to be raised.
Dang too bad Boehner & co don’t have the Conservative foundation to counter this dumb proposal.
When economists discuss monetary value, which is the purchasing power of that unit, they allways refer to the top value of the coin of the realm in our (US) case it’s the dollar which is composed of 100 cents not the most basic unit which is the penny. .
A case in point is in the 1940s a candy bar cost 5 cents when the hourly minimum wage was $.50 per hour. What does it cost today ? Likewise what were the costs of basic goods and services during that period of time as compared with todays basic wage feel good tinkering ?
Who gets hurt the worst when these adjustments are decreed by government? Its those living on fixed incomes whos income value is based on previous minimum wage levels such as social security but not adjusted to the previous current rates of inflation. That also includes living on government subsidies we call “welfare” but those subsidies eventually get increased. But never those receiving “Social Security” .
When these feel good socialists frauds who have taken over the democratic in name only party banner propose these increases. That is never considered as they pound their breasts claiming theyre for the little guy. All theyre doing is un-necessarily raising the price on goods and services broadening the demand that those affected seek help from them..
My reply to Fee is that a rise in the minimum wage might give short-tern benefit to the Dems as a wedge issue, but that it does NOTHING to solve the “income inequality” “problem,” nor the decline in middle class jobs.
Is the Administration trying to shift subsidies onto the private sector?
The constant push for higher minimum wages, as high as $15, would shift the burden of subsidizing low income and low information people to the private sector.
Government will be praised as heroes while (un) intended consequences would make life worse for those poor subjects who will follow like lemmings down the proverbial cliff.
What they will encounter is to lose eligibility for welfare, food stamps, Medicaid and other State and federal programs, leaving them worse off than before. Because of their newly found wealth, they would be classified as the new middle class courtesies of their compassionate Administration. All the while the federal coffers would increase because of cost savings.
The evil Corporations would be blamed for causing this problem for not paying for extra subsistence.
I don’t believe that that calculation has not already been made by the Agencies?
This is only my personal opinion and I could be wrong.
My take on this whole issue is that the powers that be are going to continue to export American/European jobs to the Third World, and that in 30-40 years we will have a world proletariat, and we will still have the 1% running things, and we will all be brainwashed into thanking the 1% for our apartments and our $15/hr jobs and our free health care and free birth control and our increasingly bizarre entertainment.
I think we both sense that the government under Obama has become basically fascist, i.e., “you, big business, will become an agent of government, or we will destroy you.” To me, that is one of the most frightening aspects of the Obama admin - they are bullying everyone into being a player with them, or being destroyed.
Is income inequality a problem to be solved?"In reality it is merely a political opportunity for propagandists.
In America, poor people live in more spacious housing than the average European - say nothing of the average Japanese - and, the typical poor American is overweight. An American secretary is better of materially - because of health care that actually works, dramatically better transportation, just as good food - than Queen Victoria was in her day.
There is no obvious reason why people who prepare diligently, then work effectively, should make the same income as someone who follows Obamas prescription and avoids well-paying employment.Keep in mind that the lowest quintile of the income distribution is loaded with young people just starting out. All the so-called minimum wage does is force employers to eliminate entry-level jobs - that is, make the actual wage for those jobs zero. If the pay for entry-level jobs were enough to support a family of four - as some such employees have insisted - those employees would presumably be content to stay in such jobs, making it that much harder for the next cohort of younger people to find entry-level work.
I agree with your other points and especially the last. It has been a growing cancer on our society with the unholy alliance with big business and big government being one in the same. Like you say, the sorry thing is the lemmings will continue to believe everything that is spoon fed to them as thought.
So we don’t need a national one...
Let the states deal with it. The federal government should step aside. The states are the ones with the pulse of their own economy. State’s Rights is out the door with the Obama Administration.
Free Health Care ?