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White House panics as millennials wise up, bail on Obama
The Washington Times ^ | January 26, 2014 | Joseph Curl

Posted on 01/27/2014 2:46:49 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

President Obama is making a sudden push to win back millennial voters, who have grown disillusioned over his failed “Hope and Change” campaign that left them without jobs, living in their parents’ basement.

Even though he has run his last race, the president needs the 18-to-34 age group to make his signature Obamacare policy work. Without them, the whole system falls apart — not tomorrow, today, right now, before the radical reform of U.S. health care can even get off the ground.

Just how bad is it? Just 24 percent of the new enrollees to Obamacare are between 18 and 34. The entire plan was predicated on a sign-up rate of nearly 40 percent, the idea being that healthy young people will pay more — much more — than they once did to offset the unhealthy elderly signing up for Obamacare.

In some states, the sign-up rate for millennials is abysmal: Arizona and West Virginia saw just 17 percent of the age group enroll. The White House, of course, predicts that number will grow as the deadline to sign up nears at the end of March (if you’ve got a millennial kid, you know they only do things at the last minute).

But the situation is far worse than just flagging enrollment of Obamacare, and the president knows it...

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: millenials; obama; obamacare; polls
How about in Oregon? [chortle]
1 posted on 01/27/2014 2:46:49 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Socialism doesn’t work - no matter how one tries to package it...I hope it’s not too late to turn the US around and bring it back and begin the process of weeding out and trashing state and local level socialists before they do any more greater harm...(i.e. New York)/// Then again...they voted for it - let them eat the sewer that they so wanted!


2 posted on 01/27/2014 3:02:54 AM PST by BCW (Salva reipublicae)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Can’t understand this, after all the obamaconomy has been so healthy for job seekers aged 18-24, those hefty premiums and deductibles are mere chump change to a generation flushed with economic confidence

sarc

I thought ages 18-26 are staying on Mommy and Daddy’s insurance plan- those Mommy and Daddys who still have insurance plans


3 posted on 01/27/2014 3:06:04 AM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In the real world, Obama isn’t running for office this year. The real question is how this demographic will vote (or if they vote) in November 2014.

They may hate that they can’t get jobs, or that they’re being threatened with zot-knows-what over health insurance ... but those Republicans are so mean and intolerant! We can’t vote for meanies!


4 posted on 01/27/2014 3:10:18 AM PST by Tax-chick (I'm not interested in the sporting event.)
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To: Tax-chick

You’ve hit the nail on the head; we shouldn’t read too much in their rejection of ZeroCare. Their lemming-like support gave us Obama to begin with.


5 posted on 01/27/2014 3:23:01 AM PST by stormhill
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Just 24 percent of the new enrollees to Obamacare are between 18 and 34.”

I wonder what percent of the stated 24% are ‘true believers’ signing up out of a sense of duty for the socialist common good, and what percent are looking for a ‘free’ ride in another entitlement program.


6 posted on 01/27/2014 3:23:37 AM PST by Carthego delenda est
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

18 to 26 should be 0% because they are on parents policy, No.


7 posted on 01/27/2014 3:26:07 AM PST by CPT Clay (Follow me on Twitter @Clay N TX)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
White House panics as millennials wise up, bail on Obama

Which, of course, is why the Semitic Chuckie Schumer is attacking "White Anglo Saxon Men" (his words not mine). The Dems need to replace the voters they have screwed over with a new permanent entitlement class. Schumer also knows that Latinos refer to Whites as "Anglos".

8 posted on 01/27/2014 3:27:45 AM PST by Hacksaw (I haven't taken the 30 silvers.)
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To: All
Good life lesson for millenials----"politicians are the lowest form of human life and will say anything to get their votes---even lie to their faces."

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As far back as 2008, at the presidential debate in Nashville, Democrat candidate Obama advanced his signature plan that was ultimately enacted (by an historic straight Democrat party-line vote) into the "Affordable Care Act :

OBAMA: "No. 1, let me just repeat, if you’ve got a health care plan that you like, you can keep it. All I’m going to do is help you to lower the premiums on it. You’ll still have your choice of doctor.”

The Big Lie repeated over and over ---- with the promise that every American family would be saving $2500.00 on healthcare costs.

LOCK-STEPPING PARTY LOYALTY NOT SEEN SINCE 1940's ERA EUROPE Obama And The Dumbos marched in lockstep. The persistent Dumbocrat drumbeat ---- in obeisance to Obama ---- kept ringing reassuringly in our ears: "If you like your plan, you can keep your plan."

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SIGNING "THE BIG EFFIN' DEAL"

"Those Democrats leering over my shoulder owe me bigtime. This
healthcare bill insures we have a permanent Democratic majority."

" All except those Tea Party types, swallowed hook, line and sinker my promises that they could:
(1) keep their existing health plans,
(2) keep their own doctors that they like,
(3) keep their 25-year-olds on the family health plan,
(4) never be denied coverage for a pre-existing condition,
(5) sign up instantly on my tech-savvy government Web site,
(6) buy insurance only after becoming seriously ill."
(7) save $2,500 in annual premiums in the bargain....
(8) All without any new taxes."

"Them sonovagun Tea Partiers will rue the day they criticized my wonderful bill."

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"THE BIG EFFIN' DEAL" is now a Big Effin' Debacle---lock-stepping Dems are frantic. A 2014 election issue it is not.Lock-stepping Dems seem to have gotten the heebie jeebies over Obamacare.

Nanzi Pelosi Says Dems win in 2014 Focusing on The 3 R’s: Recruiting, Raising Cash, Raising Issues.....but Nancy plumb "forgot" to mention "Obamacare"--- the signature legislation of their president. Lock-stepping Dems said O/Care is a winning Democrat issue..... they were so s-u-r-e Americans would l-o-v-e Obama's wonderful healthcare plan.

ROTFL.

9 posted on 01/27/2014 3:32:28 AM PST by Liz
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To: Tax-chick

I think the millennials will for the most part sit out 2014.

In 2016 it will probably take someone new and charismatic to get them out(i.e. not Hilary).


10 posted on 01/27/2014 3:39:30 AM PST by NEPA (Give me liberty, not debt)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Hope” and “change” are such ambiguous terms. Now they know what a deal with the devil is.


11 posted on 01/27/2014 3:57:46 AM PST by mikey_hates_everything
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You messed with their cash which buys their stash and hi tech toys so they are gone kenyan. Remember what Abe said... your 15 minutes of pulling the wool over most people’s eyes is over... KENYAN!


12 posted on 01/27/2014 3:58:32 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: Tax-chick

That’s why Obama is letting it be known that he’s cool with legalizing pot. His tiny weed-addled mind seems to believe that everybody just wants to stumble through life with no challenges and no future except what the government wants to give them, so he feels marihuana legalization is going to be the piece de resistance for this group. And he hopes he’ll get the libertarian vote, too.


13 posted on 01/27/2014 4:08:05 AM PST by livius
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To: livius
Oh yeah, let's legalize drugs but attack our kids for a lemonade stand. Makes sense, right???
14 posted on 01/27/2014 4:12:51 AM PST by GizzyGirl
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To: Carthego delenda est; 2ndDivisionVet

“Just 24 percent of the new enrollees to Obamacare are between 18 and 34.”

I wonder what percent of the stated 24% are ‘true believers’ signing up out of a sense of duty for the socialist common good, and what percent are looking for a ‘free’ ride in another entitlement program.


Signing up and enrolling is one thing, paying the monthly premium is another.

Just think what will occur when a person in that demographic decides they can’t afford the premium and then decides I’m not paying it. And then I want you to imagine the look of shock on their faces when that payment plus late fee are deducted right out of their accounts. Actions like that tend to PISS-OFF people who are pinching their pennies.


15 posted on 01/27/2014 4:13:45 AM PST by The Working Man
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Gee, the kegger ads didn’t work? :-)


16 posted on 01/27/2014 4:17:48 AM PST by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ve suspected that the poll numbers for Obama and the Dims are a lot worst than what is being reported.

The reason that I believe that is because the Democrats have stepped up their attacks against conservatives in recent weeks, like the D’Souza indictment and Cuomo telling “extremist right wingers” to get out of NY.

While it is true that Obama isn’t running for reelection, he wants a Democrat controlled Congress for his last two years office. I don’t think he is going to get that.


17 posted on 01/27/2014 4:20:35 AM PST by Ticonderoga34
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To: Carthego delenda est

The true believers signups are prolly moochers who will not/cannot pay the premium


18 posted on 01/27/2014 4:25:04 AM PST by Steven Tyler
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To: silverleaf

Drop the age 27 deal down to 21, and maybe the whole group would jump quickly in to get new high-premium insurance. There had to be a bunch of idiots designing this whole mess....who didn’t grasp how saying a 26-year old is a ‘kid’ would screw up their whole system.


19 posted on 01/27/2014 4:27:21 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

20 posted on 01/27/2014 4:35:50 AM PST by Focault's Pendulum (I live in NJ....' Nuff said!)
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To: livius

When Harry Reid is supporting marijuana legalization, you know the Democrat establishment thinks it’s going to win them votes.


21 posted on 01/27/2014 4:38:05 AM PST by Tax-chick (I'm not interested in the sporting event.)
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To: NEPA

A Hillary run is a gamble for the Democrats. Will the increase in women’s votes counteract the loss of some blacks who won’t bother to vote, and the lack of enthusiasm among the young for someone who looks like their grandmother?

And what percentage of the vote can they simply fictionalize?


22 posted on 01/27/2014 4:42:53 AM PST by Tax-chick (I'm not interested in the sporting event.)
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To: GizzyGirl

That’s because initiative and even tiny capitalism violate the principles of Obama’s New World. Down with lemonade stands!


23 posted on 01/27/2014 4:47:16 AM PST by livius
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

All of you are stupid if you believe ANY of this drivel. The Democrats ARE going to find a way to make YOU pay for it.


24 posted on 01/27/2014 4:51:05 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Tax-chick

The age range is wide.

my guess is that the 18-28 or so will not vote in substantial numbers. Those 28 - 34 will not be adequate to make a difference.


25 posted on 01/27/2014 4:51:57 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: silverleaf

Do you think maybe they’ve connected unemployment or low-paying jobs with Obama’s preferance for invader labor? Sure wish those “on our side” in the Republican Party would connect those dots for them.


26 posted on 01/27/2014 4:54:26 AM PST by grania
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To: bert

That sounds reasonable. I think what will really matter is how the elderly vote. How much is the down economy affecting them, and are they feeling the pain regarding delivery of medical care?


27 posted on 01/27/2014 4:55:37 AM PST by Tax-chick (You just keep on trying 'til you run out of cake.)
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To: Focault's Pendulum

snort- that’s a keeper


28 posted on 01/27/2014 5:06:53 AM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s not possible for anyone to “bail” from Obama because he can’t run for a third term. He already got the idiot vote as many times as was possible.


29 posted on 01/27/2014 5:07:35 AM PST by grundle
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I believe we are seeing a fundamental and permanent change in “The American Dream.” I think the basic concept of what it means to be a professional knowledge worker and have a career is changing right before our eyes.

Government regulation compounded by Obamacare is driving business to change how they are paying for their labor force. Going forward, labor is likely going to have to pay for their own - let’s call it lifecare; healthh, dental, vision, etc. - and they will move in swarms to where the work is. By swarm I mean you will align informally with groups/teams of people that have similar and complimentary skills and move to where work is. In turn, companies will have dramatically fewer permanent employees. For example, if a company needs to implement an new financial system, an “IT Swarm” would bid on the job as an informal group of 1099 workers. When the job is done, you move on. That is just one example and likely just one permutation of the phenomena. I think this change will also challenge what the traditional definition of a “business” is.

Social media along with increasing amounts and sophistication of automation will enable this new paradigm.

At the end of the day, I just don’t see the permanent jobs as we’ve known them in the past coming back.


30 posted on 01/27/2014 5:18:34 AM PST by IamConservative (The soul of my lifes journey is Liberty!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

31 posted on 01/27/2014 5:22:07 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The last three generations have been taught that they should get everything they want. When it got to where it wasn’t happening they started being told to blame the boomers. Then the obamacare idiots come along and think the younger generations are going to pay for old peoples’ medical care? Ha! So, now they’re being told “The older people will be killed off so we just need your high premiums for a little while.” And they’re still not falling for it.

Also, how many of those who signed up ended up on Medicaid or haven’t paid their premiums?


32 posted on 01/27/2014 5:35:09 AM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: silverleaf

I thought ages 18-26 are staying on Mommy and Daddy’s insurance plan- those Mommy and Daddys who still have insurance plans
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From what I’ve read, the premiums for those kids is very high.


33 posted on 01/27/2014 5:57:16 AM PST by reformedliberal
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To: stormhill
You’ve hit the nail on the head; we shouldn’t read too much in their rejection of ZeroCare. Their lemming-like support gave us Obama to begin with.

They're certainly not going to turn around and vote Republican, as a group. But simply not voting, or going with a protest vote/minor party candidate will be enough to take away the margin of victory, and then some, Obama enjoyed in 2008 and 2012. The off-year election itself was already a disadvantage for the Democrats without "hopey changey" coattails, now, they're going to really struggle to get turnout.

34 posted on 01/27/2014 6:00:45 AM PST by kevkrom (I'm not an unreasonable man... well, actually, I am. But hear me out anyway.)
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To: silverleaf
ages 18-26 are staying on Mommy and Daddy’s insurance plan

Yes, and "elderly" means mostly those approaching retirement age, after which they will probably go on MediCare.

35 posted on 01/27/2014 6:22:27 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

“Even though he has run his last race,”.........

When he declares himself “King”, he won’t need another “race”. He has it in his plans, of that I have no doubt.


36 posted on 01/27/2014 6:28:28 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama’s way too lazy to panic.


37 posted on 01/27/2014 6:32:55 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: Progov
When he declares himself “King”, he won’t need another “race”.

What does that have to do with defining age groups?

38 posted on 01/27/2014 6:37:38 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: Tax-chick
Excellent point, Tax-chick. Hillary is the hero of middle-aged broads and Alan Alda type men. I doubt most young blacks, young white men or even young white women can relate to this woman who makes Madelaine Albright look like a fashion plate.
39 posted on 01/27/2014 6:37:46 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: miss marmelstein
... makes Madeleine Albright look like a fashion plate.

Oh, snap! That'll leave a mark.

Hillary makes Madeleine Albright look like a competent Secretary of State, too.

40 posted on 01/27/2014 6:49:11 AM PST by Tax-chick (You just keep on trying 'til you run out of cake.)
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To: reformedliberal; silverleaf

Re premiums on 18 -26 year-olds staying on plan:

The premium CAN be very high. For example, in Massachusetts, I was told there are three plan prices for a given type of plan (Bronze, Silver, etc): Single, Couple, or “Family.”

The family plans are significantly more expensive than the couple plan—like 35 or 40%. However, the family cost is the same whether there is one kid or ten kids on it. So, if the choice is about keeping the last kid on the plan, or dropping back to couples coverage, it’s an expensive no-go. I found that with three young adults, everyone was better off if they bought their own insurance than if I kept them on a family plan.

Now, with the increased costs piled on the young through the ACA, that might not be true for 3 kids, but it is probably still true for 2, and certainly for one.


41 posted on 01/27/2014 7:31:14 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Someone 18 years old don’t associate Bush to anything so Zero’s abilty to blame him is zero.


42 posted on 01/27/2014 10:00:05 AM PST by CodeToad (When ignorance rules a person's decision they are resorting to superstition.)
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