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Propane shortage becomes an emergency
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Posted on 01/27/2014 2:55:40 AM PST by Red in Blue PA

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To: palmer
I have to do more research on fittings and how to get my propane out of the rented tank.

You can purchase a tank from another supplier...they will transfer the gas to the new tank....in many cases....they will give an equivalent tank to your old supplier and you get to own the original one....this saves them the cost of removing and replacing the old tank with a new one.

41 posted on 01/27/2014 6:26:00 AM PST by spokeshave (OMG.......Schadenfreude overload is not covered under Obamacare :-()
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To: Red in Blue PA; Crazieman

>>Agree. Back during the period after Hurricane Sandy, some gas stations were charging $6.00 per gallon. Some called that gouging.

Same after Katrina. We were traveling to the FL panhandle immediately post-Katrina. We were glad to pay for gas at that price level. It isn’t gouging unless there is a monopoly.


42 posted on 01/27/2014 6:26:16 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: VerySadAmerican; norwaypinesavage; Hank Hill

>>You’re Hank Hill, aren’t you.

No, Hank Hill is Hank Hill!


43 posted on 01/27/2014 6:36:16 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: raisincane

Who ya got?

I get mine from Shelby.

I’ve no idea the price yet.


44 posted on 01/27/2014 6:48:11 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: freedomfiter2

What ‘shortage’?

I thought FRACKING had VASTLY increased ‘supply’!!!


45 posted on 01/27/2014 6:48:55 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: palmer

Where do you think that TSC gets IT’s gas from?


46 posted on 01/27/2014 6:50:37 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Ben Ficklin

Economics drives Everything; eventually.

We use gasoline in most all vehicles, then diesel (which is almost identical to fuel oil) then CNG/propane then electric.

I’d like to see a chart of the cost per BTU of each type of fuel:

Wood,
NG,
propane,
coal,
electricity...


47 posted on 01/27/2014 6:55:20 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Pre-buy contracts signed in October-November are one simple answer to the price run up.

They also bite your fannie if the price goes DOWN!

48 posted on 01/27/2014 6:56:51 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: FreedomPoster
It isn’t gouging unless there is a monopoly.

Then it's called Price Fixing: which is, I believe, illegal in many places.

49 posted on 01/27/2014 6:58:51 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

We do it every winter for our little rental cabin. We keep it at 55 during the winter months.


50 posted on 01/27/2014 7:00:13 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: Elsie

Fracking increased the supply of natural gas not propane.


51 posted on 01/27/2014 7:03:53 AM PST by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: Elsie
Economics drives Everything.

Correct. The economics of the synthetic/petrochemical industry drives the price and supply of propane.

52 posted on 01/27/2014 7:06:24 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: commish
Interesting - all these articles the last few months about how we are now producing more Natural Gas than ever in this country, and yet there is a propane shortage. HMMMM.

Natural gas and propane are not the same thing. They cannot be used in the same appliances without changing jets and possibly even delivery lines (natural gas cannot be used with copper pipe, but propane can). It's not that simple to switch between them. So an abundance of one does not mitigate a lack of the other.

53 posted on 01/27/2014 7:08:07 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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To: freedomfiter2

But other folks here said that they both track in the same direction.


54 posted on 01/27/2014 7:12:16 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: IYAS9YAS
...natural gas cannot be used with copper pipe...


A study by SoCal gas but no firm conclusions

www.copper.org/applications/fuelgas/pdf/south_cal_gas_final_report.pdf


and a safety brochure by another gas utlitiy

www.ameren.com/AboutUs/ADC_NaturalGasSafety.pdf

it appears that corrosion in copper caused by nat gas use may or may
not be a serious problem BUT the consensus appears to be that flared
connections are WAY more susceptible to corrosion & failure than
compression fittings

55 posted on 01/27/2014 7:15:45 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

A good rule of thumb for fuel pricing is that everything causes the price to rise and this is a good thing. At least that’s what I’ve learned on FR.


56 posted on 01/27/2014 7:22:55 AM PST by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: IYAS9YAS

And my age addled brain should have known that considering I had to convert my grill to run off of the natural gas at the house. DOH!


57 posted on 01/27/2014 7:27:49 AM PST by commish (The takers rule. Time to implement the triple G plan - GOD, GUNS, & GOLD)
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To: Ben Ficklin
you can use your kitchen range to partially heat your house

I've had propane radiant heaters in the past, don't want to do that again. I'll use my wood stove instead.

58 posted on 01/27/2014 7:38:41 AM PST by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: Elsie

The difference is when I go to TSC and buy gas, I actually get it for the quoted price instead of being quoted one price and charged a higher price. The second difference is TSC is almost always cheaper since they buy wholesale and negotiate and I cannot having signed up for tank rental. Other companies are prohibited from filling my tank.


59 posted on 01/27/2014 7:42:03 AM PST by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Last week a 20lb LP tank exchange was $19.99, this weekend $21.99.


60 posted on 01/27/2014 7:46:14 AM PST by READINABLUESTATE ("If guns cause crime, there must be something wrong with mine." -Ted Nugent)
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