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Let Women Carry Concealed Firearms on Campus
Townhall.com ^ | January 27, 2014 | Katie Kieffer

Posted on 01/27/2014 7:49:54 AM PST by Kaslin

Women should be allowed to carry concealed firearms on college campuses. Instead, President Obama favors Gun Free Zones, which endanger women’s health.

One in five female college students are sexually assaulted or raped according to a new report issued last week by the White House Council on Women and Girls. Declaring that sexual assault “affects every one of us,” Obama picked up his pen and signed a piece of paper (a “memorandum”) calling for the creation of a campus rape response task force.

Sure, this token effort could help Obama’s party appeal to female voters during a midterm election year. Or, Obama’s memorandum could give 2016 Democrat nominee Hillary Clinton (shhhhh, nobody knows!) something to strut about as she tours the country promoting her “No Ceilings” project to bring abuses against women “out of the shadows.”

But what real good will a memorandum or initiative do if it doesn’t include arming women? Young women are sexually assaulted on college campuses in part because college campuses are “Gun Free Zones.”

An unscrupulous college student who is looking for a one night stand can easily take advantage of a drunk or high college student at a party. He knows that her sober friends or DD (designated driver) won’t be armed or able to protect her if he can get her alone for ten minutes.

Alternatively, a non-student sex offender could prowl college campuses looking for easy, unarmed targets. This is exactly what happened to Amanda Collins, a concealed carry permit holder, who was raped at gunpoint in a Gun Free Zone. Collins is a living testimony to the fact that Obama’s gun control policy renders women defenseless and more susceptible to sexual assault and rape. She told Fox News, “I was legislated into being a victim.”

During her senior year of college at the University of Nevada Reno in October of 2007, Collins was walking back to her vehicle in a parking garage after a night class. She told Fox News that she was: “less than 100 feet away from the campus police office” and parked on same level of the parking lot where the police parked their cruisers. Even so, the police were not close enough to help Collins that night; she needed her own gun.

Collins’ attacker specifically went to a place where he knew young women would be unarmed, much like the shooter Adam Landza did in the Newtown tragedy. So, while Collins was permitted to carry and trained in self-defense with a firearm, she was unable to carry her firearm where she needed it the most, her college campus.

According to the White House’s recent report, the men who commit sexual assault often take more than one victim. The report referenced a study showing that among the male college students who admitted to attempted rape, 63 percent confessed to an average of six rapes. While only 7 percent of college males admitted to attempted rape, the majority were serial offenders. This subset of serially violent men is clearly bereft of morals or respect for the law. Thus, they will only be stopped by a threat stronger than a law scrolled on a piece of paper. Serial sex offenders need the threat of lethal force.

Whether the perpetrators of sexual assault are college students or not, they appear to be mentally unstable men who have a thirst for committing repeat violence. For example, the man who attacked Collins raped her at gunpoint and then continued to hurt more women: he kidnapped and raped a second woman and then raped and murdered a third woman.

When Fox’s Megyn Kelly asked Collins: “Why do you believe that if you had a firearm on you at that time that you may have prevented the rape?” Collins responded: “To be honest, with the way I was grabbed [from behind and then her attacker placed a gun to her temple], I don’t think I would have been able to prevent my attack from starting but … had I had been carrying that night … I know at some point during my attack I would have been able to stop my attack in progress.”

Collins testified against CO Bill (HB 1226) that would have banned concealed carry weapons—even by permit holders—on public college campuses including stadiums or arenas used by public campuses. During the her testimony, CO State Sen. Evie Hudak (D) told Collins: “…statistics are not on your side, even if you had had a gun…for every one woman who used a handgun to kill someone in self-defense, eighty-three were murdered by them.”

Collins responded: “Respectfully, Senator, you weren’t there. I know without a doubt in my mind, at some point I would have been able to stop my attack by using my firearm. He already had a weapon of his own. He didn’t need mine.”

It’s time for liberals like Obama who feign to help women fight against sexual abuse to start defending women’s God-given, Second Amendment right to bear arms and carry concealed. Abolish Gun Free Zones and support conceal carry permits on campus and we’ll have fewer sexual assaults.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: banglist; concealedcarry; guns; universitycampuses; women
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1 posted on 01/27/2014 7:49:54 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
I recall a thread a while back about a "bra" gun..

But today, I suspect most women on campus don't wear a bra..

2 posted on 01/27/2014 7:52:17 AM PST by ken5050 (This space available cheap...)
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To: Kaslin

Women, but not men. That’s kinda stupid.


3 posted on 01/27/2014 7:54:23 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: Kaslin

One in five female college students are sexually assaulted...


I heard it was six in four...


4 posted on 01/27/2014 7:54:58 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: Kaslin
Every law abiding person should be allowed to carry.

Besides, most of what passes for 'sexual assault & rape' on campuses these days in hardly qualifies one for a death sentence.

5 posted on 01/27/2014 7:57:00 AM PST by skeeter
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To: Kaslin
"One in five female college students are sexually assaulted or raped according to a new report issued last week by the White House Council on Women and Girls."

I don't believe this for a second unless we are defining "sexual assault" so broad as to be ridiculous.

6 posted on 01/27/2014 7:57:12 AM PST by circlecity
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To: Kaslin

Everyone should be prepared to defend themselves.


7 posted on 01/27/2014 7:58:43 AM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: ken5050

I think you’re talking about the bra holster…..and my wife, who passed Conceal Carry this past weekend…..ordered one from a gun show vendor yesterday!!


8 posted on 01/27/2014 8:00:10 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: skeeter

“No” works pretty well, but when “NO” doesn’t work “S&W” does.
And for Christ’s sakes don’t put yourself at risk to begin with.

It’s tough on the kids and it’s tough on the furniture.


9 posted on 01/27/2014 8:03:11 AM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: circlecity

I was in Boston two or three years ago and heard college age chicks giggling on the local public transit system. It was the day after the Super Bowl in which the Patriots lost. She admitted not knowing who won or lost because “I was so drunk I passed out by halftime” and “woke up in some guy’s bed...” Nice talk out in the open. I guess she is, or could have been, a victim.


10 posted on 01/27/2014 8:03:36 AM PST by ConservativeStatement ("World Peace 1.20.09.")
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To: Kaslin
One in five female college students are sexually assaulted or raped according to a new report issued last week by the White House Council on Women and Girls.

What nonsense.

To get numbers like this, they ask questions like, "Have you ever felt threatened in a sexual manner by a male on campus?" "Have you ever been subjected to inappropriate sexual comments or innuendo?" and they count all yesses as equivalent to rape.

11 posted on 01/27/2014 8:04:50 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: mylife

If a gun can be used to discourage an overly amorous college freshman then it should made be available to ward off aggressive panhandlers or deranged angry homeless guys.


12 posted on 01/27/2014 8:08:09 AM PST by skeeter
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To: cuban leaf
Women, but not men. That’s kinda stupid.

It's a rhetorical technique.

First, you shock liberals with the idea that little college age women can actually handle a gun.

Second, you force them to try to justify why liberals would let little college girls get raped instead of letting them carry a gun.

Then, once little college girls can carry guns, you point out that it's ridiculous, illogical and unconstitutional that men shouldn't have the same right.

13 posted on 01/27/2014 8:09:27 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Kaslin
Bra Holster...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8r6CY5UZyw

Most women are better shots. Imagine a weirdo on campus trying to cause evil, with women wearing these bras and the Momma-Griz instinct IMHO the weirdo wouldn't have a chance...

14 posted on 01/27/2014 8:09:51 AM PST by taildragger (The E-GOP won't know what hit them, The Party of Reagan is almost here, hang tight folks....)
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To: skeeter

No works better.
When No does not work S&W does.

You had better reach for “No” first.


15 posted on 01/27/2014 8:10:17 AM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: Kaslin
And then there is New York.

Taken at a WalMart in Buffalo, NY.

Via: gunfreezone.net

16 posted on 01/27/2014 8:13:11 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: dead

Liberals problem is that they think anyone with a gun has no self control.

They think people are incapable of saying NO.
The gun is just backup.


17 posted on 01/27/2014 8:13:52 AM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Yes..that’s it..thanks..you should post a thread how it works, and works out..


18 posted on 01/27/2014 8:16:05 AM PST by ken5050 (This space available cheap...)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

19 posted on 01/27/2014 8:16:08 AM PST by HangnJudge
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20 posted on 01/27/2014 8:17:07 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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Split second decisions should be based on a life time of study.


21 posted on 01/27/2014 8:19:44 AM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: Kaslin

Hell no.


22 posted on 01/27/2014 8:25:47 AM PST by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: Kaslin

All part of the REAL war on women by Democrats.

Of course, given that 73% of rapists (like most criminals) are Democrats or would vote Democrat if given the chance, perhaps the Democrats are just playing to their base.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/12/31/Study-Most-Convicts-Vote-Democrat


23 posted on 01/27/2014 8:35:33 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: Kaslin
Many women shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a gun during certain days of the month.
24 posted on 01/27/2014 8:36:33 AM PST by oldbrowser (Obamacare is Obama's Great Leap Forward)
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To: ken5050

Should my bride model if for the forum????


25 posted on 01/27/2014 8:43:15 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: cuban leaf
Women, but not men. That’s kinda stupid.

That was my first though as well.

But upon consideration, I'm all for it.

Once we've established that women have the absolute right to have the means to defend themselves, it's only a baby step to enfranchise men!

26 posted on 01/27/2014 8:45:05 AM PST by null and void (We need to shake this snowglobe up.)
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To: dead

Ooooo! I missed a couple steps. Thanks!


27 posted on 01/27/2014 8:46:26 AM PST by null and void (We need to shake this snowglobe up.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Ah. The Flashbang holster.
My Wife has one, but prefers to carry in her Old Faithful hip OWB holster.
The Flashbang was just too much of a pain for her to use.
She carries the Springfield XDs in .45 ACP.


28 posted on 01/27/2014 8:58:09 AM PST by RandallFlagg (IRS = Internal Revenge Service)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Well she could wear a tee shirt..and the bra over that..

purely for scientific research purposes...

29 posted on 01/27/2014 8:59:07 AM PST by ken5050 (This space available cheap...)
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To: cuban leaf

“Women, but not men. That’s kinda stupid”

I’m a woman and exceptions like these make me crazy. In my concealed weapons class we were told that men basically have to be near death before they can defend themselves but women have a wide margin since they are weaker than their attacker.

Any person, male or female, should have the right to defend themselves without worrying how close to death they actually are.


30 posted on 01/27/2014 9:02:25 AM PST by No Socialist
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To: RandallFlagg

Yes, the flashbang. I’m thinking this holster is more of an image thing…..you know, something hot about a good looking woman who packs……

Hence the name flash-bang…..


31 posted on 01/27/2014 9:02:42 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: No Socialist
Also, once a man reaches a “certain age” it becomes very easy to claim that just about anyone has the ability to inflict “death or grievous bodily harm” as they say in Virginia.
32 posted on 01/27/2014 9:33:22 AM PST by Pecos (The Chicago Way: Kill the Constitution, one step at a time.)
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To: Kaslin
During the her testimony, CO State Sen. Evie Hudak (D) told Collins: “…statistics are not on your side, even if you had had a gun…for every one woman who used a handgun to kill someone in self-defense, eighty-three were murdered by them.”

I'd like to see the source of those numbers, complete with said statistical analysis as to how it was so robust as to justify two significant figures.

33 posted on 01/27/2014 9:33:39 AM PST by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Shwarzenkaiser: fasionable fascism one charade at a time.)
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To: Kaslin

I have ‘arrived’ at the age where my self flotation devices make for good ‘hiding’ spots for carrying a velcro type wrap around belt and holster.

At present I am able to carry under my ‘left useless mass’ with no one being the wiser, the butt basically stays under the pocket and with pad and pen in pocket, very nicely concealed AND unbutton one button and you are at the piece almost immediately..

And with the SR 38sp hammerless, absolutely NO snags while drawing.

Of course if I were to wear a ‘Bro’ it wouldn’t fit as snug.


34 posted on 01/27/2014 9:44:13 AM PST by xrmusn (6/98 --Because you have your head up your arse doesn't mean you have to have a crappy outlook.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Not to dispute the point about Orlando, but from what I can discern, the result was as much to do with publicity that more women would be armed and prepared than it was the fact of arming them.

Still… it amounts to the same thing.

The murder rate in DC is 59/100,000. Across the river in Virginia it is 1.6/100,000.

35 posted on 01/27/2014 10:10:37 AM PST by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Shwarzenkaiser: fasionable fascism one charade at a time.)
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To: Carry_Okie

I believe that was exactly the point. When the rapists couldn’t tell an easy victim from an armed one, the rate dropped.


36 posted on 01/27/2014 10:16:12 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Kaslin

Oh great! Then once a month, all guys run scared!!


37 posted on 01/27/2014 10:52:56 AM PST by SgtHooper (If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.)
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To: Kaslin

this is bullsh1t.

self defense rights are not about gender-privileges.

we can also point that men get into more altercations than women, therefore, men ought to be armed to be able to defend themselves from attack.

either everyone carries or nobody does.

i don’t want to be disarmed with a bunch of scared, inexperienced over-reacting women pulling out guns with very light trigger safeties.


38 posted on 01/27/2014 11:35:08 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: oldbrowser

for some that’s most or all of the month.


39 posted on 01/27/2014 11:36:55 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: No Socialist

there are plenty of guys who qualify. older. disabled. dealing with an injury. legally blind without glasses. small. if they are outnumbered. if they are ambushed/attacked by surprise.

all of these are disparity of force issues. that allow a victim to use potentially greater force than what their attacker may have/may have used.


40 posted on 01/27/2014 11:39:30 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: mylife

Split second decisions should be based on a life time of study.


B.S.


41 posted on 01/27/2014 11:58:27 AM PST by S.O.S121.500 (Had Enough Yet ?............................ Enforce the Bill of Rights............ It's the LAW !!!)
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To: Kaslin
Let Women Carry Concealed Firearms on Campus

Let?

Let??

LET???


Oh King!

Live forever!!

42 posted on 01/27/2014 1:42:03 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: cuban leaf
That’s kinda stupid.

Says someone OBVISIOUSLY has a very high "T" level!

43 posted on 01/27/2014 1:43:10 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: cuban leaf
One in five female college students are sexually assaulted...

And 3 of those were drunk over the weekend!

44 posted on 01/27/2014 1:43:53 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: skeeter
Every law abiding person should be allowed to carry.

Allowed?

Allowed??

ALLOWED???


Oh King!

Live forever!!

45 posted on 01/27/2014 1:44:58 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Watch out fer them deep cleavage gals!


46 posted on 01/27/2014 1:45:39 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: taildragger
Is that a GUN in your bra; or are you just glad to see me?



Nah... doesn't quite have the same pizazz to it.

47 posted on 01/27/2014 1:47:30 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: No Socialist
I’m a woman and exceptions like these make me crazy. In my concealed weapons class we were told that men basically have to be near death before they can defend themselves but women have a wide margin since they are weaker than their attacker.

Was this a LEGAL description?

48 posted on 01/27/2014 1:49:48 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

BAck in the day; if I got ‘flashed’; I figgered she WANTED banged!


49 posted on 01/27/2014 1:50:37 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Kaslin

Loaded up with these-

http://thelibertydigest.com/2014/01/24/the-new-ammunition-that-has-gun-owners-drooling/


50 posted on 01/27/2014 1:51:51 PM PST by matthew fuller (Our enemy list- http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/fact-sheets/2004/anti-gun-lobbying-organizations..)
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