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Must-Read Memo on GOP Health Proposal
The Weekly Standard ^ | 1-27-2014 | william kristol

Posted on 01/27/2014 10:27:09 AM PST by Solson

2017 Project executive director (and frequent TWS contributor) Jeff Anderson has an important memo outlining the new health care reform proposal from three senior Republican senators that would repeal Obamacare and replace it with legislation that "beats Obamacare in every particular" and would also "address many of the most serious shortcomings of the pre-Obamacare status quo." You can read Anderson's memo in full, below. There's been a lot of talk in magazines and from think tanks about a "conservative reform agenda"—and some laments as to the slowness of GOP elected officials to champion such an agenda. This proposal could mark an important moment in the dam of timidity and resistance breaking, and could prove to be an important inflection point in the GOP's effort to become by 2016 a national governing party.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: healthinsurance; obamacare; weeklystandard
What an absolute travesty. Rather than do what is appropriate - to NOT have Washington DC involved AT ALL in health insurance, the "snatching defeat from the jaws of victory" GOP decides to go along with the premise that health insurance needs to be brokered by Washington. This is an idiotic proposal that uses "tax credits" - meaning WE THE PEOPLE have already paid and now WASHINGTON, once again, gets to pick the winners and losers. It is no wonder at all why the GOP is losing. It is crap "alternatives" like this that offer no alternative. Where is the same GOP raising holy hell over the illegal activites of a President making unilateral actions on a bill that the Supreme Court has said - is nothing more than a tax???
1 posted on 01/27/2014 10:27:09 AM PST by Solson
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To: Solson
DEFINITELY A MUST READ ...and a MUST SHARE with people who say there is no republican alternative.
2 posted on 01/27/2014 10:38:14 AM PST by Baynative (Got bulbs? Check my profile page.)
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... of course, tax credits mean little to most Obama voters
3 posted on 01/27/2014 10:40:30 AM PST by Baynative (Got bulbs? Check my profile page.)
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To: Baynative

And a Republican “alternative” that looks like a typical Republican response - just a little better than the Dems but STILL, a complete slow walk into hell...and away from the Constitution.


4 posted on 01/27/2014 10:41:08 AM PST by Solson (The Voters stole the election! And the establishment wants it back.)
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To: Solson

I haven’t read it, so I will be able to critique the proposal once I do. The problem is that the federal government is already massively intertwined with medical service and insurance. Medicare and Medicaid are a primary driver of the problems we have. Those problems need to be identified and fixed. We can’t act like the government should not act at all because there is no stomach among any group, including the vast majority of our own conservative base who want Medicare to be gone. The government is already knee deep before Obamacare. That isn’t going to change even if Obamacare is eliminated tomorrow. There is a place...and a necessity to fix this situation. More government is most definitely not the solution, but that doesn’t mean doing nothing.


5 posted on 01/27/2014 10:42:06 AM PST by ilgipper (Obama is proving that very bad ideas can be wrapped up in pretty words)
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To: Solson
A proposal to get tax money back in the hands of individuals is a far better plan than Obamacare.

Plus, this would introduce millions to shopping for their own insurance (previously covered by employers) which will lower costs thru competition. This idea has been in the works for a long time and it's a good one.

6 posted on 01/27/2014 10:52:30 AM PST by what's up
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To: Solson

It was sort of inevitable that after January 1 when some Americans got insured by it that the GOP would stop talking about repeal.

That is because a repeal would be seen as ‘taking away Americans health care’ which is what got so many mad at Obamacare.

How well they will fare with the battle of the national health care plans remains to be seen.

Obama will just reject the GOP ideas.


7 posted on 01/27/2014 10:54:20 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: Baynative
Well, there IS this one but it's still a gub'mint run and top down project!

What the heck does Orrin Hatch need his two-cents involved in this, unless he wants this to be his legacy legislation!

8 posted on 01/27/2014 10:54:21 AM PST by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: Solson
RE :”This is an idiotic proposal that uses “tax credits” - meaning WE THE PEOPLE have already paid and now WASHINGTON, once again, gets to pick the winners and losers”

I don't like the phrase tax credits.

9 posted on 01/27/2014 10:56:14 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: sickoflibs

I think that if they really “cared”, for starters we should all be able to deduct every penny spent on medical/dental, vision instead of complying with the convoluted formulas and spending/income caps that is in the tax code.


10 posted on 01/27/2014 11:04:41 AM PST by kevslisababy
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To: kevslisababy
Amen.

Once again, the feds tell us what we owe them in taxes, what they are going to spend (though they mostly hide individual items so as not to inflame our senses and demand they not squander our money on their funding, say "artists" who dangle crucifixes in jars of urine) and now our GOP weenies want to tell us just how much of our own tax money they can "afford" to allow us to claim, based upon our ages, etc!

All of this just infuriates me, how dare they enter in to my health care needs and expenses!!!

11 posted on 01/27/2014 11:14:21 AM PST by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: Solson
Sigh.....government creates the problem, fixes it and us lemmings are to be grateful for the fix. How about limiting Fedzilla to its Constitutional restraints?
12 posted on 01/27/2014 11:17:58 AM PST by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: ilgipper
I have read it carefully, and it will work. There is now a law regarding healthcare, Obamacare, so it has to be dealt with by a law. Government is in healthcare and one can't just say stop it and it happen. If Obamacare was overturned now, with no replacement, all the people insured by it would likely have no healthcare as those policies likely would be dropped by insurance companies because the law would be gone - they are a mess and people don't know if they have it or not and insurance companies are struggling to find what is happening. The only healthcare that would remain without a problem right now would be people on an employer's healthcare. Employers’ healthcare plans are also going to be a mess when they have to change theirs before the end of this year in order to comply with Obamacare rules.

What this replacement does is allow people to privately get insurance and have a tax credit to help if they buy it - that is an incentive to get it - not be forced to get it.

It allows people who have had insurance for a time to change to another policy even if they have a preexisting condition. If a person loses his/her job and loses employer insurance, they can get a private policy even though they have a preexisting condition and that is a good thing.

It has a mandate but that mandate is not like the “you have to buy it or get whacked” mandate. This mandate has states automatically enroll their citizens in a healthcare plan. Then, IF THE CITIZEN DOESN'T WANT IT, they opt out. They are not forced to keep it.

It also gets rid of taking billions from Medicare and Medicaid. Medicare/Medicaid are not in this bill. If the bill replaces Obamacare, then Medicare/Medicaid are not included to be raided.

If reform of Medicare/Medicaid needs to be done without leaving the elderly with no care, that can be done outside of this bill.

Something has to happen to get rid of Obamacare and this bill does it and replaces it with something that will work. Those of you who want Obamacare repealed and nothing more done are not thinking. There will be chaos nationwide in healthcare if it is just repealed.

13 posted on 01/27/2014 11:18:44 AM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Solson

For what it’s worth, this proposal falls short in one crucial area. The Federal Government has absolutely NO BUSINESS at all in being involved in our healthcare.

I do not want, need or desire a “Republican Alternative” to OBAMACIDE.

What part of this is so hard to understand?


14 posted on 01/27/2014 11:21:00 AM PST by Howie66 (Molon Labe, Traitors!)
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To: Solson
Don lite.

Plain stupid !

15 posted on 01/27/2014 11:22:09 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: Solson

What you are NOT seeing is that the top legislators in the US have decided to follow the commands of their corporate sponsors and usher in the New World Order. It is just over the horizon and corporate America is demanding that the legislators bring it forth.

Have you ever seen the chart that shows how many International corporations own all the other smaller national corporations?


16 posted on 01/27/2014 11:32:55 AM PST by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: kevslisababy
RE :”I think that if they really “cared”, for starters we should all be able to deduct every penny spent on medical/dental, vision instead of complying with the convoluted formulas and spending/income caps that is in the tax code.”

Tax credits apply to those who pay no taxes, tax deductions cut taxes of only those who pay taxes.

Neither party cares about the individual, but they must make believe that they do. He who fakes caring the best and most gets the votes.

17 posted on 01/27/2014 11:44:14 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: Solson

Why would people who pay no taxes now, want tax credits??


18 posted on 01/27/2014 11:46:14 AM PST by MNnice
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“Why would people who pay no taxes now, want tax credits??”

The law would give a tax credit to those who pay taxes and buy insurance. The people who don’t have to pay any taxes usually don’t have much money and are usually on Medicaid so the tax credit would not apply to them.


19 posted on 01/27/2014 12:06:22 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: MNnice

Because the “tax credits” are refundable. Yeah, makes no sense to me, either, and I practiced as a CPA in taxation for about a dozen years. The term is just a means of sugar-coating the real event, which is welfare.


20 posted on 01/27/2014 12:08:53 PM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: Solson

“We can do socialism better than Obama.”

signed,
The Republicans


21 posted on 01/27/2014 12:11:14 PM PST by EternalVigilance (With God all things are possible.)
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To: EternalVigilance

The best summation of this yet. thanks!


22 posted on 01/27/2014 12:20:12 PM PST by Solson (The Voters stole the election! And the establishment wants it back.)
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To: Solson
to NOT have Washington DC involved AT ALL in health insurance

You are wrong. Period.

One of the actually-enumerated powers of the Congress is to regulate interstate commerce. That we still allow the fifty states to prohibit the purchase of insurance across state lines is ridiculous.

This is something the Republicans should address.

23 posted on 01/27/2014 4:59:17 PM PST by BfloGuy ( Even the opponents of Socialism are dominated by socialist ideas.)
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To: Baynative

The Media’s “Republicans Have No Obamacare Replacement” Myth

http://ricochet.com/main-feed/The-Media-s-Republicans-Have-No-Obamacare-Replacement-Myth

here are twenty-seven pages of health care bills Republicans introduced in this Congress:

http://rsc.jordan.house.gov/UploadedFiles/RSC_Policy_Brief-Members_Health_Care_Initiatives.pdf

These are some of the best ones:

http://www.freedomworks.org/blog/carockow/our-favorite-bills-to-replace-obamacare

Many good, debate-worthy bills have been introduced, and more bills are expected to be introduced. Each of these bills would move us toward a more patient-centered system by expanding individual freedom:

Rep. Paul Broun’s Patient OPTION Act (H.R. 4224)

Rep. Todd Rokita’s State Health Flexibility Act (H.R. 4160)

Sen. Rand Paul’s Congressional Health Care for Seniors Act (S. 2196)

Sen. Jim DeMint’s Retirement Freedom Act (S. 1317)

Rep. Bill Huizenga’s Health Freedom for Seniors Act (H.R. 3819)


24 posted on 01/28/2014 5:21:22 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad and lived with his parents .)
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