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OHIO OFFICIALS DO SOMETHING WITH CHRISTIAN CROSSES AFTER ATHEISTSí LAWSUIT THREAT
theblaze.com ^ | january 27, 2014 | billy hallowell

Posted on 01/27/2014 12:14:25 PM PST by lowbridge

Officials in Stratton, Ohio, were forced to remove crosses that stood for decades on the village’s municipal building after receiving threatening letters from an atheist activist group.

While some local leaders are frustrated by the decision to take the Christian symbols down, the crosses could end up more visible than ever once they are placed in their new locations.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: christian; ohio
Full title: OHIO OFFICIALS DO SOMETHING WITH CHRISTIAN CROSSES AFTER ATHEISTS’ LAWSUIT THREAT THAT COULD MAKE THEM MORE VISIBLE THAN EVER
1 posted on 01/27/2014 12:14:25 PM PST by lowbridge
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To: lowbridge

Well, that’s one solution. Another would be to not cave in.


2 posted on 01/27/2014 12:19:07 PM PST by ruesrose (The Anchor Holds)
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To: lowbridge

Oooo, the sternly-worded letter tactic. Those guys work for the UN?


3 posted on 01/27/2014 12:21:05 PM PST by alancarp
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To: lowbridge
Put new ones up in a different location. If the response to these attacks were to put 10 up somewhere else, every-time that one came down, the atheists would go bankrupt.

Just got a letter? Send it back and ask for clarification. Repeat until they are forced to file a case. Make them prepare for the court case. The day before, drop the case and erect 10 different items that will make them want to explode.

4 posted on 01/27/2014 12:23:41 PM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: ruesrose

Why isn’t threatening a lawsuit extortion?


5 posted on 01/27/2014 12:24:51 PM PST by edcoil ( "All men's miseries derive from not being able to sit in a quiet room alone." - Blaise Pascal)
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To: lowbridge
Christians have as much right to declare their religious beliefs as those bastards have to declare their damnation.

This is NOT what the First Amendment and Jefferson's wall of separation meant AT ALL.

Its PAST TIME to take these bastards to account in the Courts, legislatures, and in demonstrations.

This is TYRANNY of the minority.

Any IDIOT who spends ANY time WHATSOEVER reading about American culture can't HELP but conclude that America's Founders based their beliefs on Judaeo-Christian morality, ethics and principles and were not shy about including those beliefs in every facet of public and private life.

6 posted on 01/27/2014 12:26:14 PM PST by ZULU (Magua is sitting in the Oval Office. Ted Cruz/Phil Robertson in 2016.)
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To: lowbridge
Time for people to stand up, instead of caving.

Lawsuits cost money...for BOTH sides.

Instead of just caving, force the godless to pony up.

7 posted on 01/27/2014 12:26:19 PM PST by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: lowbridge; 444Flyer; Diana in Wisconsin; svcw; Esther Ruth; GiovannaNicoletta; Diogenesis; ...

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Daniel+8:23&version=KJV

Daniel 8:23

King James Version (KJV)

23 And in the latter time of their kingdom,
***when the transgressors are come to the full,***
a king of fierce countenance,
***and understanding dark sentences,***
shall stand up.

The events in process.....leading the world there....


8 posted on 01/27/2014 12:30:52 PM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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9 posted on 01/27/2014 12:31:47 PM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: edcoil
Why isn’t threatening a lawsuit extortion?

To you and me it is, but lawyers think litigation is just swell. How many times have you seen a poster say, "Well, they'll never be found guilty!" Maybe not, but they'll be impoverished along the way having to prove their case, guilty or not. George Zimmerman is an example...he was acquitted, but he's pretty deep in the hole.

10 posted on 01/27/2014 12:32:11 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: lowbridge

Why don’t this Athiests pick on Allah for a while


11 posted on 01/27/2014 12:35:41 PM PST by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period.)
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To: lowbridge
Mayor John Abdalla [...]complied.

Interesting!

12 posted on 01/27/2014 12:38:09 PM PST by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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To: lowbridge

“....after receiving threatening letters from an atheist activist group.”

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Threats?

What are they going to do — call on God to strike down those Ohio Officials?


13 posted on 01/27/2014 12:38:30 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: Mr. K

Because Christians won’t lop their heads off.


14 posted on 01/27/2014 12:39:30 PM PST by JudyinCanada
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To: onyx

“IT BURNS! IT BURNS!!!” *SMIRK* :)


15 posted on 01/27/2014 12:44:35 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: Mr. K
Because the Muslims embraced Islamic socialism a long time ago.
16 posted on 01/27/2014 12:46:23 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Cyber Liberty

At the very least, the names of the few “angry atheists” should be published.

Then, the neighbors of those few “angry atheists” would be empowered to report any other insane behavior, which the neighbors may observe, to “the authorities”.


17 posted on 01/27/2014 12:47:55 PM PST by pfony1 (Add just 6 GOP Senators and we "bury" Harry)
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To: lowbridge

“FFRF, a 501(c)3 Educational Organization.”

‘Educational Organization’ MY AUNT FANNY. These GRIFTERS have been extorting money out of small towns for TWO GENERATIONS now!

They need to be put out of business!


18 posted on 01/27/2014 12:48:40 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: lowbridge

I bet these same Ohio Officials spent a lot of time in their own lockers in high school...


19 posted on 01/27/2014 12:49:07 PM PST by PATRIOT1876
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To: SampleMan

I like it!


20 posted on 01/27/2014 12:49:44 PM PST by dhs12345
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Atheists are idiots.


21 posted on 01/27/2014 12:51:08 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Mr. K
Why don’t this Athiests pick on Allah for a while

Because they aren't really anti-religious they are just anti-Christian.

22 posted on 01/27/2014 12:53:07 PM PST by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: onyx

I LOVE that image.


23 posted on 01/27/2014 12:54:14 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: onyx

Similar type shadow in Seattle. A light shining through a gap on to the lower road of the Ship Canal Bridge cast a neat shadow of the Cross at night. City had to shift the lite in such a way so as to not cast that shadow. There’s going to be a lot of wailing when their time comes.


24 posted on 01/27/2014 1:01:40 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral)
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To: lowbridge

We have become a nation of ruling minorities!


25 posted on 01/27/2014 1:10:36 PM PST by TexasCajun
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To: ruesrose

Follow Nancy Reagan’s doctrine... “JUST SAY NO”!


26 posted on 01/27/2014 1:11:01 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Smiling.
God bless and keep you, beautiful pal.


27 posted on 01/27/2014 1:16:30 PM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: metmom

Yep.
It’s wonderful!


28 posted on 01/27/2014 1:17:04 PM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: SkyDancer
Similar type shadow in Seattle. A light shining through a gap on to the lower road of the Ship Canal Bridge cast a neat shadow of the Cross at night. City had to shift the lite in such a way so as to not cast that shadow.

OUTRAGEOUS! Thanks so much for telling me!

You're right:
"There’s going to be a lot of wailing when their time comes."

God bless and keep you.

29 posted on 01/27/2014 1:20:16 PM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: lowbridge

Put a plaque up where the cross WAS, indicating that a cross was once here.


30 posted on 01/27/2014 1:22:48 PM PST by SgtHooper (If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.)
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To: pfony1

I like that!!!!!!


31 posted on 01/27/2014 1:24:24 PM PST by SgtHooper (If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.)
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To: Former Fetus

There are quite a lot of Arab Christians with names that sound Muslim or Persian.


32 posted on 01/27/2014 1:28:17 PM PST by ottbmare (the OTTB mare, now a proud Marine Mom)
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To: lowbridge

O.K. let’s turn the tables on them. Let’s form a group called “The Freedom From Atheism Foundation” and approach a town that for a century or so has had no Christian symbols in their municipal building and file a lawsuit against them for discrimination against Christianity and Nature’s God. And meanwhile compose a thesis that proves that Atheism itself is a religion and so the absence of references to the reality of God is endorsing Atheism.


33 posted on 01/27/2014 1:41:26 PM PST by Repent and Believe (Promote good. Tolerate the harmless. Let evil be crushed.)
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To: lowbridge; All
The Constitution and its history is evidently not being taught in Ohio schools. Otherwise, Ohio officials would probably be able to argue the following about 10th Amendment protected state power to address religious issues, displaying Christian crosses for example.

First, regardless what FDR's activist justices wanted Constitution-ignorant citizens to think about Thomas Jefferson's "wall of separation," the real Jefferson had clarified the following about the 1st and 10th Amendments with respect to "government" power to address religious issues. Jefferson had indicated that the states had made the 10th Amendment to clarify in part that the states had reserved government power to address religious issues uniquely to themselves, regardless that the states had also made the 1st Amendment in part to clarify that Congress is prohibited from having such powers altogether.

“3. Resolved that it is true as a general principle and is also expressly declared by one of the amendments to the constitution that ‘the powers not delegated to the US. by the constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively or to the people’: and that no power over the freedom of religion, freedom of speech, or freedom of the press being delegated to the US. by the constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, all lawful powers respecting the same did of right remain, & were reserved, to the states or the people: that thus was manifested their determination to retain to themselves the right of judging how far the licentiousness of speech and of the press may be abridged without lessening their useful freedom, and how far those abuses which cannot be separated from their use should be tolerated rather than the use be destroyed (emphasis added); …” —Thomas Jefferson, Kentucky Resolutions, 1798.

The reason that Christians have been inexcusably letting their freedom of religious expression slip through their fingers is this imo. As a consequence of not studying the Constitution and its history for themselves, FDR's anti-religious expression justices got away with twisting how 14th Amendment lawmakers had intended for that amendment to be understood in order to rob the states of their power to address religious issues. More specifically, regardless that the 14th Amendment clearly indicates that only priviliges and immunities protected by the Constitution are to apply to the states, FDR's justices wrongly went beyond just privileges and immunities and applied the 1st Amendment's prohibition on Congress's power to address religious issues to the states. This is evidenced by the following excerpt from Cantwell v. Connecticut.

"The First Amendment declares that Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. The Fourteenth Amendment has rendered the legislatures of the states as incompetent as Congress to enact such laws (emphasis added). The constitutional inhibition of legislation on the subject of religion has a double aspect." --Mr. Justice Roberts, Cantwell v. State of Connecticut, 1940.

Glaring evidence of the Supreme Court's impropriety with respect to twisting the 14th Amendment is the following. john Bingham, the main author of Section 1 of 14A, had officially clarified, on several occasions, that 14A did not take away any state rights.

“The adoption of the proposed amendment will take from the States no rights (emphasis added) that belong to the States.” —John Bingham, Appendix to the Congressional Globe. (See bottom half of first column)

No right (emphasis added) reserved by the Constitution to the States should be impaired…” —John Bingham, Appendix to the Congressional Globe. (See top half of 1st column)

“Do gentlemen say that by so legislating we would strike down the rights of the State? God forbid. I believe our dual system of government essential to our national existance.” —John Bingham, Appendix to the Congressional Globe. (See bottom half of third column)

So since Jefferson had clearly indicated that the states had the unique, 10A-protected power to address religious issues long before 14A was ratified, Bingham's words confirm that the states still had such power after 14A was ratified.

On the other hand, what good are our constitutonal protections when parents don't make sure that their children are taught the Constitution and its history as constitutional lawmakers had intended for it to be understood?

Are we having fun yet?

34 posted on 01/27/2014 1:52:02 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: lowbridge

Where did this notion of government land come from? We the people are the government. Not some dribbling moron that we pay off to go get drunk in Versailles on the Potomac. Not a faceless, nameless bureaucrat who plays god with other peoples’ lives.


35 posted on 01/27/2014 2:22:45 PM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: onyx

*SMOOCH*


36 posted on 01/27/2014 7:08:36 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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