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Ruth Marcus: Monica Lewinsky "Was Not Precisely An Innocent Victim" (video)
RealClearPolitics ^ | January 27, 2014 | RealClearPolitics

Posted on 01/27/2014 2:10:22 PM PST by i88schwartz

RUTH MARCUS, WASHINGTON POST: I think it comes to something very interesting that ties together the Huckabee comments and the Rand Paul comments, which is there's only two ways -- there seem to me a tendency to talk about women in two ways when it comes to sex and sexual activity. Either they're terrible victims preyed on by older men as in Monica Lewinsky. President Clinton did a bad, bad thing, Monica Lewinsky was not precisely an innocent victim completely, I recall thong flashing there. They're either innocent victims or they are sexually promiscuous, slutty, low-life women. There's no sort of women get to use sex and sexual activity and with that use contraception responsibly just like men do.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: billclinton; monicalewinsky; ruthmarcus

1 posted on 01/27/2014 2:10:22 PM PST by i88schwartz
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To: i88schwartz

Wow. Feminists and liberals have been carping forever about sexual predator people in the supervisory chain.

Now, they say she deserved it.


2 posted on 01/27/2014 2:13:06 PM PST by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by its weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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To: i88schwartz

no precisely about it.


3 posted on 01/27/2014 2:13:30 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: rlmorel

Unreal..if a GOP congressman said the same thing..they’d be call for his resignation, and his head..


4 posted on 01/27/2014 2:14:55 PM PST by ken5050 (This space available cheap...)
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To: i88schwartz

I see the Clinton revisionist history meme is in full swing for 2016.


5 posted on 01/27/2014 2:16:09 PM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: i88schwartz

Society needs a term for “fully cooperating victim.” Oh, wait, we have one: Dumbass.

It applies to Monica Lewinsky. It applies to 18-year-old boys screwing their high school teachers or their mothers’ friends. It applies to men who screw random women and get stuck with child support payments.

Dumbass.


6 posted on 01/27/2014 2:18:06 PM PST by Tax-chick (You just keep on trying 'til you run out of cake.)
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To: i88schwartz

Billy boy was a grown married man with a young daughter. He was the President of the US. Monica was a stupid young woman. He is the one who should have had the sense to not have anything to do with her. She was a victim of her own stupidity but he was responsible for what happened.

To make matters worse they tried to get her to lie about the whole thing. Anyway making excuses for Billys behavior is a sicko.


7 posted on 01/27/2014 2:23:18 PM PST by beandog (All Aboard the Choo Choo Train to Crazy Town)
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To: i88schwartz

A 40+ year old boss having sexual relations with a pre-21 year old intern (employee) is NEVER EVER acceptable accept of course when it’s a Democrat President involved.


8 posted on 01/27/2014 2:23:22 PM PST by traderrob6
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To: i88schwartz

Sexual predating is cool with feminists if Done-While-Democrat, along with illegal wars, murder, drug use, etc, etc, adn.


9 posted on 01/27/2014 2:24:20 PM PST by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: i88schwartz


10 posted on 01/27/2014 2:24:23 PM PST by Iron Munro ("Sooner or later everyone sits down to a banquet of consequences." - Robert Louis Stevenson)
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To: i88schwartz
Monica Lewinsky Was Not Precisely An Innocent Victim

Yeah . . . So?

11 posted on 01/27/2014 2:24:46 PM PST by YHAOS
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To: headstamp 2

I see the Clinton revisionist history meme is in full swing for 2016.

__________________________________________

If this is the gimmick they wanna use...

More power to ‘em.

No matter how anyone spins Bill or Hillary’s histories; it all comes out as sleazy white trash.


12 posted on 01/27/2014 2:26:26 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Tax-chick

Truth be told, a former classmate had an affair with my senior year lit teacher and then proceeded to stalk him, then he ended up sexually promiscuous for a while until he got therapy.

No matter how it happened teachers should be keeping their hands OFF OF THE STUDENTS!


13 posted on 01/27/2014 2:26:39 PM PST by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: Tax-chick
The person I despise the most in the whole Monica mess is her dad. He basically gave Bill a pass to mess around with his daughter, saying that he didn't blame him. If Dr. Lewinsky had stood in front of the WH the day after the story broke, and accused Clinton of preying on his 20 year old daughter..Bubba would have been forced to resign in a day.

That would have made Gore the President, and he'd likely have been elected in 2000, and that means that Gore would have been in the Oval Office on 9/11...

Oh wait a sec...

14 posted on 01/27/2014 2:31:57 PM PST by ken5050 (This space available cheap...)
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To: i88schwartz
I think it comes to something very interesting that ties together the Huckabee comments -- Either they're terrible victims preyed on by older men as in Monica Lewinsky. President Clinton did a bad, bad thing, Monica Lewinsky was not precisely an innocent victim completely, I recall thong flashing there. They're either innocent victims or they are sexually promiscuous, slutty, low-life women.

I heard Huckabee and that's not even remotely what he said. He said Democrats paint women as either too stupid or victims of their libido to take care of their contraception without the government getting involved.

15 posted on 01/27/2014 2:32:22 PM PST by Lizavetta
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To: beandog

This is just me, but I think Monica is lucky that Tripp exposed the whole thing, or Monica would be just another anonymous victim of the DC crime-world.

Adultery is bad, inexcusable, but to mess around with a powerful man is just asking to be killed. There are people who sincerely believe that the Kennedy family killed Marilyn and there are Kennedy mistresses who have ended up dead conveniently to the benefit of the Kennedy family.

He shouldn’t have messed with her, but if he was pressuring her, she should have quit the job and gotten herself out.


16 posted on 01/27/2014 2:33:04 PM PST by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: i88schwartz

Rand Paul makes one statement and the entire War Room goes ballistic making excuses.

Pray America is Waking


17 posted on 01/27/2014 2:38:20 PM PST by bray (http://www.braylog.com/id47.html)
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To: CorporateStepsister

She was young, stupid and starry eyed. She actually believed that Billy boy loved her and was going to leave Hillary for her.

He was the President and a grown man. He should have had nothing to do with her.


18 posted on 01/27/2014 2:40:01 PM PST by beandog (All Aboard the Choo Choo Train to Crazy Town)
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To: i88schwartz

Yeah, like, y’knaw, those 20 year-olds are REAL devious and cunning. Bill Clinton was helpless against Monica’s wiles.


19 posted on 01/27/2014 2:40:29 PM PST by MuttTheHoople (Nothing is more savage and brutal than justifiably angry Americans. Don’t believe me? Ask the Germa)
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To: Lizavetta
Her comment doesn't really make much sense either. It sounds like she's working off different scripts that don't really fit together well.

1) Republicans are at war with women.

2) Monica was asking for it.

3) Use condoms.

She's saying that Republicans call women sluts, but she strongly implies that about Monica Lewinsky herself.

20 posted on 01/27/2014 2:41:22 PM PST by x
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To: i88schwartz
Ruth Marcus...soon to be announced as the spokescreature of Hillary ‘16.
21 posted on 01/27/2014 2:41:40 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Osama Obama Care: A Religion That Will Have You On Your Knees!)
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To: x

It’s typical memory loss by left wing idiots. I bet Ruth Marcus will completely ignore all the things said about Lewinsky by Dems (especially Carville) with “trailer trash” or “drag a hunder dollar bill through a trailer park” and all the articles about Clinton and the “bimbo” eruptions.

Talk about a War On Women!


22 posted on 01/27/2014 2:44:39 PM PST by Fledermaus (If we here in TN can't get rid of the worthless Lamar, it's over.)
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To: i88schwartz
I would love for Monica to write a book to coincide with Hillary's pres run.

Monica is a joke and Bill went on with his life. IMO, that makes her a victim. That and her youth. He had the poor girl thinking he was in love with her!

23 posted on 01/27/2014 2:51:54 PM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: lonestar

“I never told any one to lie, not a single time.”

Haha, google disappeared the sound clip. Figures.


24 posted on 01/27/2014 3:19:25 PM PST by JohnnyP
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To: All

Like all “victims” of workplace sexual abuse, she asked for it..


25 posted on 01/27/2014 3:21:42 PM PST by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: i88schwartz
I'll repeat what I said on another thread about Monica "flashing her thong."

Liberals and the media conveniently forget Bill Clinton's role in that. According to the Starr Report, Clinton commented on how pretty Monica's dress or skirt was. When she said "thanks," Clinton said "I'd like to see what's under it."

That's when she flashed him.

Monica still bears some responsibility, but let's not forget who initiated the whole thong-flashing incident.

26 posted on 01/27/2014 3:23:59 PM PST by Scoutmaster (I'd rather be at Philmont)
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To: Scoutmaster

I’m looking at the Starr Report. One summary says that in the course of flirtation between Clinton and Lewinsky, the lifted her jacket in the back to show him the straps of her thong that showed above her pants.


27 posted on 01/27/2014 3:28:17 PM PST by Scoutmaster (I'd rather be at Philmont)
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To: Scoutmaster

I’m looking at the Starr Report. One summary says that in the course of flirtation between Clinton and Lewinsky, the lifted her jacket in the back to show him the straps of her thong that showed above her pants.


28 posted on 01/27/2014 3:28:17 PM PST by Scoutmaster (I'd rather be at Philmont)
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29 posted on 01/27/2014 3:31:54 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: x
You forgot point number 4:

"Don't, under ANY circumstance, leave a jizz stain [AhHem} your DNA, on the girl's dress!"

Excuse me for the vulgarity, old sailors just can't help themselves, dontcha know, its in our genes...

30 posted on 01/27/2014 4:38:45 PM PST by ConradofMontferrat ( According to mudslimz, my handle is a HATE CRIME. And I HOPE they don't like it.)
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To: i88schwartz

Release all that information stored in the Ford Administration Building pertaining to Bimbogate to clear the air. What difference does it make?


31 posted on 01/27/2014 5:08:41 PM PST by Scram1
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To: CorporateStepsister
teachers should be keeping their hands OFF OF THE STUDENTS

I agree. And bosses off the help, too.

32 posted on 01/27/2014 6:05:11 PM PST by Tax-chick (You just keep on trying 'til you run out of cake.)
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To: i88schwartz
Monica Lewinsky was not precisely an innocent victim completely

Irrelevant.

The highest person on the chain is the person who is 100% responsible.

I don't care if she showed up buck naked or did the dance of the six veils and a handkerchief.

You don't sleep with your subordinates.

33 posted on 01/27/2014 6:11:16 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: i88schwartz

I agree thatMonica wasn’t exactly innocent; but Kathleen Wiley and Juanita Broderick were victims. One was sexually harassed and Juanita was brutally raped.


34 posted on 01/27/2014 6:37:36 PM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: i88schwartz

>>They’re either innocent victims or they are sexually promiscuous, slutty, low-life women.<<

Isn’t there a class between the ‘high and low” types? I sure hope so.


35 posted on 01/27/2014 8:31:41 PM PST by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: i88schwartz

I remember at the time Ross Perot saying that if the thong snapping thing would have happened in his office he would have assumed the young woman had emotional issues and would have called her parents to come and take her home.

That stuck with me becaue that is exactly what I would expect a grown man especially a man of the stature of the President of the United States to do with a young woman like that.


36 posted on 01/27/2014 9:02:10 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Tax-chick

Hear hear; how many marriages are broken up because bosses are messing with their secretaries?


37 posted on 01/27/2014 9:42:58 PM PST by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: CorporateStepsister

I don’t know ... but most women aren’t as goal-oriented as Hillary Clinton: they’d have dumped Bill long before he met Monica Lewinsky.


38 posted on 01/28/2014 2:35:18 AM PST by Tax-chick (You just keep on trying 'til you run out of cake.)
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To: i88schwartz

39 posted on 01/28/2014 3:07:46 AM PST by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: Tax-chick

Most womne would have gone it alone instead of using their husband as their stalking horse.


40 posted on 01/28/2014 12:28:47 PM PST by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: CorporateStepsister

Many women have some kind of ability or competence. There’s no indication that Hillary Clinton does.


41 posted on 01/28/2014 12:32:20 PM PST by Tax-chick (You just keep on trying 'til you run out of cake.)
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To: Tax-chick

Exactly; do you think that it should be an impeachable offense if the First Lady is caught meddling in public affairs?


42 posted on 01/28/2014 12:36:31 PM PST by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: CorporateStepsister

Interesting question. I’m more inclined to say, “Yes, it should be,” than “No,” but that’s assuming that “impeachable offense” means anything.


43 posted on 01/28/2014 12:41:09 PM PST by Tax-chick (You just keep on trying 'til you run out of cake.)
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To: Tax-chick

Thing is, that First Ladies have no business having an agenda that requires the President’s signature. Women in America have the ability to do their own thing without permission of a man and frankly Michelle’s lunch program antics have done nothing but damage. Why can’t First Ladies concentrate on fashion (like Jackie O. did) or being a good hostess or simply making life better for the President? Cripes, there are a lot of things a First Lady can do without meddling in politics.


44 posted on 01/28/2014 1:14:27 PM PST by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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