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Suspect Who Turns His Back & Raises Hands into Air Is Killed by PCSO Deputy
SanTanValley.com ^ | Friday, January 24, 2014 | CBS 5 staff

Posted on 01/27/2014 4:24:18 PM PST by kiryandil

Video of a police standoff contradicts the initial Pinal County Sheriff's Office description of the chain of events that led to the shooting death of a suspected car thief. The man had led police and sheriff's deputies on a chase through Casa Grande and Eloy for nearly an hour, before deputies immobilized the car he was driving.

A witness shot the video on a cell phone. It shows the final moments of the standoff, when deputies were ordering Manuel Longoria to surrender. The deputies had their weapons drawn and fired five bean bag rounds at the suspect, in addition to Taser rounds.

Longoria appeared to be moving his arms around, and did not appear to be cooperating with the deputies. Seconds later, the video shows Longoria turn his back on the deputies and raise both hands into the air, high over his head. One second later, a lone deputy fired two shots, killing Longoria.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: babeu; banglist; carthief; crime; donutwatch; homicide; longoria; pinalcounty; policemisconduct; policestate
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Bystander video from Youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeFoKXHijk4

Initial local media police whitewash from January 14:

Mesa man dead after Eloy officer-involved shooting, car chase (AZCentral.com)

1 posted on 01/27/2014 4:24:18 PM PST by kiryandil
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To: null and void; bobby.223

Policestate ping


2 posted on 01/27/2014 4:25:58 PM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: kiryandil

Sounds a lot like “Suicide by Cop”.

But there are a lot of other factors in the incident I believe.


3 posted on 01/27/2014 4:28:02 PM PST by The Working Man
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To: The Working Man

The guy sounds like a Bag Dog.


4 posted on 01/27/2014 4:29:46 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: kiryandil

Cops fire two shots into him AFTER he raises his hands over his head in a surrender posture. Incredible.


5 posted on 01/27/2014 4:31:16 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: The Working Man

Turning away from a badgemonkey and raising hands in the air
is UNIVERSAL SIGN OF SURRENDER. There is NO DOUBT that the
trigger happy thug committed a felony. The only question being whether he should be charged with murder 2 or voluntary manslaughter. And if he was foolish enough to utter into a microphone that he was gonna kill, mess up or otherwise inflict summary judgement on the victim for having the nerve to flee the charge should be murder 1.

Instead the chickensh*t DA rubber stamps yet another instance of legal murder by the chosen ones. If that
was my child murdered on the street, justice....my idea
of justice...WOULD BE SERVED. Since the system won’t
provide justice anymore it has fallen to the citizenry
to mete it out.


6 posted on 01/27/2014 4:33:45 PM PST by nvscanman
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To: The Working Man

Was not suicide by cop. Cops would have been justified in shooting when he headed into car. When he put his hands up getting ready to place them on the car the shooting was not justified at all.


7 posted on 01/27/2014 4:34:00 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: PapaBear3625

Yeah....raising your hands in the air is sort of the universal gesture of “I surrender”.


8 posted on 01/27/2014 4:34:37 PM PST by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: Alaska Wolf

Righteous shoot ping.


9 posted on 01/27/2014 4:34:45 PM PST by null and void (We need to shake this snowglobe up.)
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To: Paladin2

Bag —> BAD


10 posted on 01/27/2014 4:34:50 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: The Working Man
Actually, his sister reported the car stolen, even though she knew her brother took it.

She apparently didn't know that getting the police involved might be a death sentence in today's America.

Sounds a lot like “Suicide by Cop”.

Well, just before he was shot in the back twice, he did decide to start co-operating, raised his hands, turned his back on the police and started to "assume the position" on his car.

Of course, by that time he had already disrespected their AUTHORITAY, and the howling pack of jackboot lawdogs were in full cry.

His bad luck...

11 posted on 01/27/2014 4:35:58 PM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: nvscanman

A DA can indict a ham sandwich, but never a cop.


12 posted on 01/27/2014 4:36:04 PM PST by null and void (We need to shake this snowglobe up.)
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To: kiryandil

That looks like a bad shoot. The guy clearly had raised his hands hands high above his head, and he was up against the side of the car.

I don’t know all the facts, or the whole story; and that will come out in the investigation. But from what little can be gleaned from this video, this was a bad shoot by the police.


13 posted on 01/27/2014 4:36:29 PM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: jwalsh07
When he put his hands up getting ready to place them on the car the shooting was not justified at all.

Internal affairs will clear him.

14 posted on 01/27/2014 4:36:58 PM PST by null and void (We need to shake this snowglobe up.)
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To: kiryandil

15 posted on 01/27/2014 4:39:37 PM PST by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: null and void

Old wolfie might get so charged up over this one when he sees it that he just might go twice tonight....


16 posted on 01/27/2014 4:41:20 PM PST by bobby.223 (Retired up in the snowy mountains of the American Redoubt and it's a GREAT life!)
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To: Eaker

Ping for later.


17 posted on 01/27/2014 4:41:43 PM PST by Eaker (Sweat dries, blood clots and bones heal so suck it up buttercup.)
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To: kiryandil

One more time for the slow kids: Cops. Are. Not. Your. Friends. Some of you out there seem to think that the cop buddy you have will make sure you get passed over when it comes time to do the door to door searches and gun confiscations. What these people don’t realize is that the cop’s paycheck and pension mean a whole lot more to him than any of our rights.


18 posted on 01/27/2014 4:43:09 PM PST by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: Orangedog

Amen, FRiend


19 posted on 01/27/2014 4:44:39 PM PST by tomkat (still think it's 'too early' comrades ?)
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To: PapaBear3625
Cops fire two shots into him AFTER he raises his hands over his head in a surrender posture. Incredible.

Paniced cop in a tense situation. He shouldn't be a cop, obviously.

That said, the car thief isn't blameless. There was a moment before the theft when a clear choice was made. During and after a chase, few have clear heads.

20 posted on 01/27/2014 4:45:12 PM PST by freerepublicchat
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

“...raising your hands in the air is sort of the universal gesture of “I surrender”.

That is the sign!


21 posted on 01/27/2014 4:47:06 PM PST by jocon307
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To: PapaBear3625
Cops fire two shots into him AFTER he raises his hands over his head in a surrender posture. Incredible.

Nah, we got einsteins here who think that means it's fine to kill him by shooting him in the back.

22 posted on 01/27/2014 4:51:35 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: kiryandil
Sheriff of Pinal County:

Isn't the boyfriend cute? He's illegal.

23 posted on 01/27/2014 4:53:59 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: JoeProBono

Shot in the back by police while surrendering.


24 posted on 01/27/2014 4:54:32 PM PST by Delta 21 (If you like your freedom, you can keep your freedom. Period.)
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To: kiryandil

Now this one is a legitimate example of police corruption.
And the value of cameras.

Orwell imagined that surveillance would only serve the state. He was wrong, it cuts both ways.


25 posted on 01/27/2014 4:54:58 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: JoeProBono

Those cops should have blown his head off for gawd sake, he stole a car. Geezes...that is a death sentence in many 3rd world countries. (sarcasm)


26 posted on 01/27/2014 4:55:12 PM PST by oust the louse (The Democratic Party might as well be called the Death Party. Abortion & ObamaCare/death panels.)
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To: JoeProBono

Can you tell if any of the Roid Ragin Donut Brown Barrage Balloons are humping each other in their excitement?


27 posted on 01/27/2014 4:55:39 PM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: freerepublicchat

Yeah. He chose to borrow his sisters car when she said no and she thought she would teach him a little lesson.

Turns out she accidentally taught him to push up daisies.


28 posted on 01/27/2014 4:58:36 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: freerepublicchat
That said, the car thief isn't blameless. There was a moment before the theft when a clear choice was made.

Not sure I'd call someone who stole his sister's car a "car thief".

Maybe a creep brother, perhaps.

I think the Sheriff's department had to make it look like he was some Big Time Crimnul...

29 posted on 01/27/2014 4:59:11 PM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: kiryandil

More graduates from the Fullerton Police Academy.


30 posted on 01/27/2014 5:03:12 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral)
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To: ought-six

He was executed simply and only because the cop wanted to shoot him. He caused the officer some hectic time and the officer desired to shoot him because of that.


31 posted on 01/27/2014 5:03:34 PM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: freerepublicchat
During and after a chase, few have clear heads.

Right. So, if I'm a citizen in a kerfuffle, and I cap some ner do well, and go to trial and say: "It was HIGH ADRENALINE, FEW HAVE CLEAR HEADS AND I WAS AFRAID FOR MY LIFE!"

I WILL go to jail for lots and lots of years.

Only pigs can get away with that one.

32 posted on 01/27/2014 5:03:43 PM PST by ConradofMontferrat ( According to mudslimz, my handle is a HATE CRIME. And I HOPE they don't like it.)
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To: null and void

It looks as if this was a bad shoot. The officer was not immediately cited for heroism or awarded his instant Vacation With Pay.


33 posted on 01/27/2014 5:04:51 PM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: freerepublicchat

Panicked.


34 posted on 01/27/2014 5:06:11 PM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: arthurus

True, true, but he’s still eligible to 80% retirement for job induced stress...


35 posted on 01/27/2014 5:07:11 PM PST by null and void (We need to shake this snowglobe up.)
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To: PapaBear3625

I’m a former prosecutor.
That was murder.
No doubt about it.
And what’s equally troubling is that evidently all the other LEOs went along with the story that he was reaching for a weapon (which didn’t exist).
Then the person who videoed the jack booted thugs released the video.
No wonder cops hate it when we video them.


36 posted on 01/27/2014 5:07:33 PM PST by Clump ( the tree of liberty is withering like a stricken fig tree)
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To: kiryandil

Kind of hard to be reaching for a gun with your hands clearly visible and over your head while turning your back to the cops.

A suspect gets shot twice in the back and the first thing the cops do is put him face down on the pavement so they can put handcuffs on him.

That’s not going to help the government when the civil lawsuit is filed.


37 posted on 01/27/2014 5:09:10 PM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: Clump

As a former prosecutor, would it be fair to say you are not all that surprised at the actions of the cops at the scene and their lying when questioned about the incident?


38 posted on 01/27/2014 5:13:56 PM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: null and void
odd too since they are both pork... 8^)
39 posted on 01/27/2014 5:21:21 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Chode

That’s not very Kosher of you to notice...


40 posted on 01/27/2014 5:23:08 PM PST by null and void (We need to shake this snowglobe up.)
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To: kiryandil

5 beanbag rounds. Those things hurt like hell...how he was still on his feet is beyond me...


41 posted on 01/27/2014 5:25:23 PM PST by bike800
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To: null and void
my bad
42 posted on 01/27/2014 5:25:59 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: freerepublicchat
Paniced cop in a tense situation.

Given the pace of the shots, I would say that there was no panic. A 'double tap' might have been panic related. There was plenty of time not to take the second shot. particularly if his weapon was double action only. This speaks to the mindset of the cop to shot the victim regardless.

43 posted on 01/27/2014 5:26:00 PM PST by tbpiper
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To: Chode

You’re good...


44 posted on 01/27/2014 5:28:20 PM PST by null and void (We need to shake this snowglobe up.)
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To: null and void
heh heh heh...
45 posted on 01/27/2014 5:31:04 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: null and void
The take-away for folks at home is there is no reason to ever surrender, if you are going to get shot anyway.

/johnny

46 posted on 01/27/2014 5:31:24 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: tbpiper

Another video of attempted cold blooded murder by a cop. Who claimed the victim was moving toward him with a knife.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKqTzYDUYhE


47 posted on 01/27/2014 5:34:39 PM PST by BushCountry (Obama: The dentist told me I need a crown. I was like I KNOW, RIGHT?)
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To: kiryandil

Anybody who would question anything the police do is just a cop-hater.


48 posted on 01/27/2014 5:34:52 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The only way women can "have it all" is if men aren't allowed to have anything.)
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To: Orangedog

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