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Automatic License Plate Readers Targeting Lawful Gun Owners (Maryland)
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Posted on 01/27/2014 6:29:45 PM PST by Timber Rattler

Are automatic license plate readers in Maryland alerting police when registered gun owners drive past them?

Recently we posted a story about John Filippidas, the concealed carry permit holder from Florida who was stopped on I-95 by a Maryland Transportation Authority cop. The cop detained Filippidas and his family for nearly two hours while searching the family’s vehicle for the gun Filippidas legally owns. The gun was in a safe back in Florida. No ticket was issued.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; donutwatch; freakstate; gungrabbers; johnfilippidis; leo
The ultimate in citizen profiling...
1 posted on 01/27/2014 6:29:45 PM PST by Timber Rattler
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To: Timber Rattler

In a perfect world, states like Maryland, California, New York and Connecticut would be ejected from the United States with extreme prejudice.

Cut them loose and let them fend for themselves.


2 posted on 01/27/2014 6:33:23 PM PST by Howie66 (Molon Labe, Traitors!)
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To: Timber Rattler

I wouldn’t put it past the jackboot ruling class to do this, but it is pretty unlikely. Even here in CA where we have fireams registration, there is no direct link to vehicle license plates.


3 posted on 01/27/2014 6:34:12 PM PST by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: Timber Rattler

Adios Constitution. Where the hell is Holder? Why isn’t he suing Maryland over this? What a hypocrite. If they used these things to catch illegal aliens, Holder would be all over it like white on rice!


4 posted on 01/27/2014 6:36:07 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (ObamaCare. The "global warming" of healthcare plans.)
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To: umgud
"Even here in CA where we have fireams registration, there is no direct link to vehicle license plates."

Computers eliminate the separation of databases.

Shows like NCIS and Person of Interest are not very far out on the timeline.

The PoPo State is essentially here.

You are a subject now rather than a citizen with public servants.

5 posted on 01/27/2014 6:37:37 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Timber Rattler

Maryland does not honor any other State’s concealed weapon permit. However, several States honor Maryland’s CWP. What is up with that? Come on Maryland gun owners, get off your arseholes and march on the capital.


6 posted on 01/27/2014 6:41:09 PM PST by ImNotLying (The Right To Bear Arms: Making good people helpless won't make bad people harmless!)
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To: ImNotLying
"Come on Maryland gun owners."

move out.

7 posted on 01/27/2014 6:43:41 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: ImNotLying

It’s scapegoating going on again. Usually in places that see problems with a lot of criminal shootings, those guns aren’t being used by honest owners to do that. So targeting the honest is counterproductive!


8 posted on 01/27/2014 6:47:49 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar for you if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
You forget that Holder was and still is a radical who committed crimes while at Columbia. The Leopard just cannot change its spots. He is not a hypocrite, he is a criminal who is the chief law enforcement officer of the USA. He is a prime example of the incompetent rolodex available to the democraps!
9 posted on 01/27/2014 6:47:57 PM PST by BatGuano (You don't think I'd go into combat with loose change in my pocket, do ya?)
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To: Timber Rattler

This is of concern to the Florida legislature. The government of Maryland stepped over the line in an effort to target citizens of Florida. It is, in effect, interstate piracy. As offensive as using a speed trap to target people with out of state license plates.

The proper response, about the only response, that Florida could carry out *that would matter*, would be to declare that state weapons licenses were no longer needed. And while that would not help current license holders, the list kept by Maryland would become outdated and much less useful.

Likewise, they should immediately cut off Maryland from any police data cooperation, directly or through third parties.


10 posted on 01/27/2014 6:49:58 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (WoT News: Rantburg.com)
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To: Timber Rattler

So, if this is accurate, CCW permit holders can no long travel through Maryland. Given that major North South routes on the East coast traverse Maryland, this would be a real problem and call for an Economic boycott, at least.


11 posted on 01/27/2014 6:50:49 PM PST by Truth29
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To: umgud

“Even here in CA where we have fireams registration, there is no direct link to vehicle license plates.”

LOL. Here is how it works: License plate -> insured drivers (you have to be insured, right?) -> state insurance agency -> state database -> datebases of CCW holders -> PD database -> cop’s car.

Seriously, computers make this TRIVIAL. And yes, it is SOP for the police state...


12 posted on 01/27/2014 6:52:06 PM PST by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: Timber Rattler

What about full faith and credit of the United States.


13 posted on 01/27/2014 6:54:01 PM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: piytar

Pretty sad isn’t it.
This guy gets hammered.
And how many gang bangers bringing drugs from FL up north with illegal guns skate on by.


14 posted on 01/27/2014 6:56:27 PM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: Truth29

Well, since Maryland, New Jersey, New York, Connecticut, and Massachuetts don’t honor my Florida permit, I guess I’ll be stopping at the Virginia line on my way up North. But to be honest, that’s as far North as I want to go anyway. I don’t have a passport for the liberal North.


15 posted on 01/27/2014 6:59:26 PM PST by ImNotLying (The Right To Bear Arms: Making good people helpless won't make bad people harmless!)
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To: piytar

I’d imagine that this connection would break down for a rental car.


16 posted on 01/27/2014 7:02:20 PM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est. New US economy: Fascism on top, Socialism on the bottom.)
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To: Timber Rattler

If police were following their constitutional limits, it wouldn’t matter if they knew when every CCW holder drove by, because they still wouldn’t have probable cause to stop them. Instead, we have let police get away with stopping and searching anyone, and making up some cause to cover themselves in the paperwork. So, of course they will abuse whatever information they can get their hands on in order to target their illegal searches. It gets them arrests, and when they get more arrests, we give them more money.


17 posted on 01/27/2014 7:07:33 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: BatGuano
I was unaware of this before you brought it up. Thanks

What percentage of Americans know of this part of Rickys Legacy?


18 posted on 01/27/2014 7:09:24 PM PST by MeshugeMikey ("When you meet the unbelievers, strike at their necks..." -- Qur'an 47:4)
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To: Boogieman

My brother was a sheriff and he told me there was a dozen things he could use to pull someone over


19 posted on 01/27/2014 7:21:15 PM PST by South Dakota (shut up and build a bakken pipe line)
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To: South Dakota

“weaving in your lane” covers any/everything.


20 posted on 01/27/2014 7:41:23 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad and lived with his parents .)
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To: South Dakota

Yeah, I’m sure most cops can rattle off ten things that any of us are doing at any time, which they can use as an excuse to detain us. We’ve got too many laws, and we’ve given the police a little too long a leash.


21 posted on 01/27/2014 8:01:24 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: umgud

I wouldn’t put it past the jackboot ruling class to do this, but it is pretty unlikely. Even here in CA where we have fireams registration, there is no direct link to vehicle license plates.”

I live in CA too and I would not bet on that fact. If it does prove to be true, the states that do it can kiss good bye anyone having CCW. People will simply “carry.”


22 posted on 01/27/2014 8:10:00 PM PST by vette6387
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To: ImNotLying

Add Minnestoopid to that list as well.
Minnestoopid is “shall issue”, but has no reciprocity.


23 posted on 01/27/2014 8:29:30 PM PST by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: umgud
Even here in CA where we have fireams registration, there is no direct link to vehicle license plates.

Maybe the cops just googled it.

Regards,

24 posted on 01/27/2014 8:42:47 PM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Timber Rattler

Maryland patrol police are tricky.
The cars are dark colored and roof lights flat to be sneaky and not be seen till they pull you over,

I use waze to flag them to other users.


25 posted on 01/27/2014 9:01:29 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: Timber Rattler

I would think this lawsuit worthy...

Sadly, the Brown Shirts and their bosses can’t be held accountable and the bill will simply be passed on to the taxpayer...


26 posted on 01/27/2014 9:09:45 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Timber Rattler
In Oct, going to the Million Vet March, we stopped the bike, I emptied both magazines into a baggie, and we locked the 1911, the shells, and the mags into three separate compartments of the Spyder just in case we were stopped in Maryland.

We got into Virginia we stopped, loaded the mags, pulled the 1911 out of the bike, and loaded the piece and put it back in the waist holster. I have a Pa carry permit, but dont want to give the Md local yokels any reason to get excited. Its BS, but I dont want to lose the piece to an excited rookie with a heavy badge.

27 posted on 01/27/2014 9:10:17 PM PST by North Coast Conservative (God created man, Sam Colt made them equal)
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To: umgud
“Even here in CA where we have fireams registration, there is no direct link to vehicle license plates.”

The link is through the DMV with the D/L number. With a license plate reader it wouldn't be much a stretch that when the License plate query comes back the D/L number comes back as well. If there is a CCW it would be linked to the D/L. In CA that would be somewhat rare due to the difficulty of getting a CCW.

In this case the LEO went fishing and query brought up the driver had a CCW and that started the fishing expedition.

In CA if a LEO finds a pistol that the owner legally owns he can read the S/N and description to his dispatch who goes offline then when the DMV database responds they can confirm the S/N and description. I have heard them do just that while monitoring traffic over a scanner.

28 posted on 01/27/2014 9:30:43 PM PST by Polynikes (What would Walt Kowalski do. In the meantime "GET OFF MY LAWN")
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To: Timber Rattler

Sounds like a good opportunity to invent a license plate cover that will prevent reading with a machine.


29 posted on 01/27/2014 9:31:34 PM PST by Organic Panic
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Counterproductive??? Not if you’re after easy revenue and bust stats. Plus, the cops run near zero chance of getting injured in those encounters...


30 posted on 01/27/2014 11:01:34 PM PST by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: Timber Rattler

In Tampa if a cop reads your plate it comes up if you have a CCW. If you do you will be stopped. If you are not carrying at the time your car will be almost disassembled as the police search for your weapon. If you are carrying your gun will be confiscated and perhaps you can get it back. Your car will also be searched. There is not warrant involved. Lawful possession of a firearm constitutes Probable Cause. Tampa is one Southern city that more resembles Chicago than anything Southern.


31 posted on 01/28/2014 12:10:01 AM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
So targeting the honest is counterproductive

It is also regarded as safer than targeting the criminals and easier and it allows the police to say they are Doing Something.

32 posted on 01/28/2014 12:13:09 AM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: All

The thread on this incident from January 14 . . .

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3111807/posts


33 posted on 01/28/2014 2:41:38 AM PST by deks
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To: Axenolith

Yes, it is obvious, We The People have put up with servants who seek their own narrow benefit and glory, which ends up being no benefit and no glory because we can’t cheat God. If we cheat God we cheat ourselves.

Well, my answer is what I believe is God’s answer, which is to believe the gospel like we mean it, then to share the miracle which results with everyone else in whatever way God makes possible.


34 posted on 01/28/2014 4:05:47 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar for you if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Paladin2

35 posted on 01/28/2014 5:42:12 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
It’s scapegoating going on again. Usually in places that see problems with a lot of criminal shootings, those guns aren’t being used by honest owners to do that. So targeting the honest is counterproductive!

...if your goal is to stop crime.

36 posted on 01/28/2014 8:03:58 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: MeshugeMikey
"The right of 'black self determination'"???

Blacks get extra self-determination over and above what everybody else gets?

37 posted on 01/28/2014 8:08:04 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Still Thinking

Evidently some addle brained “progressive” communist pukes “think” so

How self determination can be authentically labeled by color is far FAR beyond me.

It reads like Amos N Andy-Bonix..to me! It puts me in mind of George Kingfish Stevens throwing a bunch of words together in an effort to SOUND important and effectual.


38 posted on 01/28/2014 10:07:14 AM PST by MeshugeMikey ("When you meet the unbelievers, strike at their necks..." -- Qur'an 47:4)
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To: umgud

Even here in CA where we have fireams registration, there is no direct link to vehicle license plates.


I wouldn’t be too sure of that. Mrs. Peet found her driver’s license photo in her electronic health-care record. In some states, the DMV shares info with data with other govt. agencies.


39 posted on 01/28/2014 10:26:10 AM PST by Peet (Oderint dum metuant)
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To: Timber Rattler; Abundy; Albion Wilde; AlwaysFree; AnnaSASsyFR; bayliving; BFM; Bigg Red; ...

I hate this state.

Maryland “Freak State” PING!


40 posted on 01/28/2014 1:05:04 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (...)
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To: ImNotLying

Tried that last year. Thousands showed up to protest “assault rifle” ban. The line to testify was 2,000 long when I got there. Testimony to the house was cut off. Later testimony to the senate ran till 3am. Only 12 people were in favor. We were completely ignored.


41 posted on 01/28/2014 1:54:44 PM PST by cyclotic (Hey BSA-I'm gone. Walk Worthy-traillifeusa.com)
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To: Organic Panic

already been done.its called mud.


42 posted on 01/28/2014 9:47:19 PM PST by RitchieAprile
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To: Still Thinking

Yes, we as a society have gotten off of the track of righteousness, which is furnished to us sinners in God.

Without an allegiance to God, we are left with the ugly enemy of God’s grace, which is pride. And pride can get pretty damned (word intended) shortsighted. Ah, look at the wonderful cop-in-a-box! Except he isn’t in a box except of his own construction, out of the devil’s hate.

It’s only through renewed personal allegiance to God (which in the modern, Christian covenant is individual, and not an institutional thing) that America can be blessed again.

Gladly, I see all kinds of signs that the Lord hasn’t given up yet. Our troubles are chastenings, warning us of the hell towards which we’ve been sailing. A wholehearted call upon the Lord can still save the day, and evangelists are needed to exhort people to do this. Evangelists are not just a yesteryear phenomenon. They are as modern as today.


43 posted on 01/29/2014 5:36:18 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar for you if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Howie66

It’s only two or three or four goof counties in every one of those states. There’s no rational reason to let the fools have all of Md., all of NY, or all of Pa.


44 posted on 01/29/2014 6:49:11 PM PST by varmintman
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To: RitchieAprile

When mud is outlawed only outlaws will have mud. Ban tractor pulls. For the children.


45 posted on 01/31/2014 12:28:08 AM PST by Organic Panic
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