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Folk music icon Pete Seeger dies at 94
Pittsburgh Tribune-Review ^ | January 27, 2014 | unattributed obituary

Posted on 01/28/2014 1:01:23 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

Edited on 01/28/2014 5:49:40 AM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

By the 1990s, no longer a party member but still styling himself a communist with a small C, Seeger was heaped with national honors.

Official Washington sang along - the audience must sing, was the rule at a Seeger concert - when it lionized him at the Kennedy Center in 1994. President Clinton hailed him as "an inconvenient artist who dared to sing things as he saw them."


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1 posted on 01/28/2014 1:01:23 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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Pete Seeger, entertaining First Lady Eleanor Roosevelt and others at a labor canteen in 1944. (Library of Congress)
2 posted on 01/28/2014 1:03:40 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"Hope that there are many, many very few small leaders with as little power as possible."
3 posted on 01/28/2014 1:09:18 AM PST by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

“....In the ‘80s and ‘90s Mr. Seeger toured regularly with Arlo Guthrie, Woody’s son, and continued to lead singalongs and perform benefit concerts. Recognition and awards arrived. He was elected to the Songwriters Hall of Fame in 1972, and in 1993 he was given a lifetime achievement Grammy Award. In 1994, President Bill Clinton handed him the National Medal of Arts, America’s highest arts honor, given by the National Endowment for the Arts. In 1999, he traveled to Cuba to receive the Order of Félix Varela, Cuba’s highest cultural award, for his “humanistic and artistic work in defense of the environment and against racism.”......

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/29/arts/music/pete-seeger-songwriter-and-champion-of-folk-music-dies-at-94.html?_r=0


4 posted on 01/28/2014 1:17:54 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Godspeed you old commie

Consistent....fool

Mike Bloomfield shoulda killed you in 65(?) With his Telecaster

Clubbed you like a baby seal

Say hi to fellow commie woody...tell woody Arlo ain’t like him

Just to piss him off..


5 posted on 01/28/2014 1:20:33 AM PST by wardaddy (wifey instructed me today to grow chapter president beard back again....i wonder why?)
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To: wardaddy

Marcus Yam for The New York Times
Pete Seeger, with canes, joined the Occupy Wall Street protests on Friday night. The 92-year-old marched from 95th Street to Columbus Circle.

6 posted on 01/28/2014 1:25:00 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
“humanistic and artistic work in defense of the environment and against racism.”

You have to recognize the code words involved here or it appears quite innocuous.
7 posted on 01/28/2014 1:31:05 AM PST by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

It’s always about control through deception.

“...................It would be difficult to recall, for example, the number of times I [David Horowitz] have been introduced on conservative platforms as “a former civil rights worker and peace activist in the 1960s.” I have been described this way despite having written a lengthy autobiography that exposes these self-glorifying images of the left as so much political deceit. Like many New Left leaders whom the young Mrs. Clinton once followed (and who are her comrades today), I saw myself in the 1960s as a Marxist and a revolutionary. What was idealistic about exploiting an issue like civil rights, for example, to achieve the destruction of the social order that made civil rights possible?

New Left progressives like Hillary Clinton and Acting Deputy Attorney General Bill Lann Lee were involved in supporting, or promoting, or protecting or making excuses for violent anti-American radicals abroad like the Vietcong and criminal radicals at home like the Black Panthers. We did this then — just as progressives still do now — in the name of “social justice” and a dialectical world-view that made this deception seem ethical and the fantasy seem possible.

As Jamie Glazov, a student of the left, has observed in an article about the middle-class defenders of recently captured Seventies terrorist Kathy Soliah: “if you can successfully camouflage your own pathology and hatred with a concern for the ‘poor’ and the ‘downtrodden,’ then there will always be a ‘progressive’ milieu to support and defend you.” Huey Newton, George Jackson, Angela Davis, Bernardine Dorhn, Sylvia Baraldini, Rubin “Hurricane” Carter, Mumia Abu Jamal, H. Rap Brown, Rigoberta Menchu and innumerable others have all discovered this principle in the course of their criminal careers.

There is a superficial sense, of course, in which we were civil rights and peace activists — and that is certainly the way I would have described myself at the time, particularly if I were speaking to an audience that was not politically left. It is certainly the way Mrs. Clinton and my former comrades refer to themselves and their pasts in similar settings today.

But they are lying. When they defend racial preferences now, for example, a principle they denounced as “racist” and fought against as “civil rights” activists then, even they must know it.

The first truth about leftist missionaries, about believing progressives, is that they are liars. But they are not liars in the ordinary way, which is to say by choice. They are liars by necessity, and often, therefore, without realizing that they are. The necessity for lying arises because it is the political lie that gives their cause its life.

Why, if you were one of them, for example, would you tell the truth? If you were serious about your role as part of humanity’s vanguard, if you had the knowledge (which others did not), that would lead them to a better world, why would you tell them a truth they could not “understand” and that would only servie to hold them back?

If you believed that others could understand your truth, you would not think of yourself as part of a “vanguard.” You would no longer inhabit the morally charmed world of an elite whose members alone can see the light and whose mission is to lead the unenlightened towards it. If everybody could see the same horizon and knew the path to reach it, the future would already have happened and there would be no need for the army of the saints.

That is both the ethical core and psychological heart of what it means to be a part of the left. That is where the gratification comes from. To see yourself as a redeemer. To feel anointed. To be among the elect. In other words: To be progressive is itself the most satisfying narcissism of all.

That is why it is of little concern to them that their socialist schemes have run aground, burying millions of human beings in the process. That is why they don’t care that their panaceas have caused more human suffering than any injustice they have ever challenged. That is why they never learn from their “mistakes,” why the continuance of Them is more important than any truth.”.......

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/Articles/Progressive%20Narcissism.htm


8 posted on 01/28/2014 1:39:51 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: wardaddy
Mike Bloomfield shoulda killed you in 65(?) With his Telecaster

In a sense, Bloomfield DID kill him in '65.

9 posted on 01/28/2014 1:40:59 AM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

It was about f***ing time, you unrepentant Stalinist b@stard.

The untold millions who perished under communism won’t be saluting you, either. At least they’re worth a prayer.


10 posted on 01/28/2014 1:42:08 AM PST by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Good Ridance.
He’ll be roasting near his Hero Stalin.


11 posted on 01/28/2014 1:44:23 AM PST by Kozak ("Send them back your fierce defiance! Stamp upon the cursed alliance! To arms, to arms in Dixie!)
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To: wardaddy

Mike Bloomfield...... Paul Butterfield Band

Saw them quite a few times. As many as you saw Steve Winwood on a Ten Speed _{””


12 posted on 01/28/2014 1:49:19 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Fresh Wind

In a sense, Bloomfield DID kill him in ‘65. >>>>>>>>>

Dylan Newport reference


13 posted on 01/28/2014 1:50:40 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Yes, leftism is so full of contradictions by necessity that it's almost laughable if not for the destruction always left in its wake. It's one means to justify a completely different end, unaware that there is no separating the end from the means. If liberals were to tell the truth of what they really believe, they'd find themselves very unpopular. So they disguise their intentions with good-seeming motivations: opposition to greed, racism, etc, all or most of it non-existant from their contextual standpoint. There is one favorite quote of mine which sort of describes them:
"Villains who twirl their mustache are easily spotted. Those who clothe themselves in good deeds are well camoflaged"
That's captain Picard from Star Trek, by the way. That politically-correct show offered at least one sound piece of wisdom.
15 posted on 01/28/2014 2:03:21 AM PST by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

16 posted on 01/28/2014 2:07:16 AM PST by Rastus
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
A couple of years ago, Mr. Seeger appeared as a “surprise guest” at a concert I attended. I didn't know he was still alive. I was told then he still toured. He couldn't sing much. Basically, he had the audience do it for him.

Yes, Mr. Seeger was a communist, but I'll bet 99% of the pop performers today are as well. Or they are communist sympathizers. It's funny to me because whether they realize it or not, they are actually capitalists. They have to be — if they weren't, they wouldn't be raking in the big bucks. I suppose they want communism only for the masses, not for themselves. No way would they give up their lavish lifestyles

It's not up to me to judge Mr. Seeger. He's in God's hands now.

Rest in peace.

17 posted on 01/28/2014 2:09:55 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: Telepathic Intruder

Indeed and their goal is to change the very order of things (Obama: “Fundamentally transforming the United States of America”). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrefKCaV8m4

More from Horowitz:

“.....The intoxicating vision of a social redemption achieved by Them – this is what creates the left, and makes the believers so righteous in their beliefs. It did so long before Karl Marx. It is the vision of a redemptive future that continues to inspire and animate them despite the still-fresh ruins of their Communist past.

It is the same idea that is found in the Social Gospel that impressed the youthful Hillary Clinton at the United Methodist Church in Park Ridge, Illinois. And it is the same idea that she later encountered in the New Left at Yale and in the Venceremos Brigade in Communist Cuba, and in the writings of the New Left editor of Tikkun magazine who introduced her to the “politics of meaning” after she had become First Lady. It is the idea that drives her comrades in the Children’s Defense Fund, the National Organization for Women, the Al Sharpton House of Justice and all the other progressive causes which for that reason still look to her as a political leader.

For the self-anointed messiahs, the goal, “social justice,” is not about rectifying particular wrongs, which would be practical and modest — and therefore conservative. Rather, their crusade is about rectifying injustice in the very order of things. “Social Justice” for them is a world reborn, in which prejudice and violence and inequalities no longer exist. It is a world in which everyone is equally advantaged and lacks fundamentally conflicting desires. It is a world that could only come into being through a reconstruction of human nature and of the social order itself. Even though they are too prudent and self-protective to name it anymore, the post-Communist left still passionately believes in their totalitarian future.”....

..Because the transformation they seek is still total, the power they seek is total. No matter how many compromises they strike along the way. The compromises are themselves integral to the strategy of their mission. The transformation of the world requires the permanent entrenchment of the saints in power.....

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/Articles/Progressive%20Narcissism.htm


18 posted on 01/28/2014 2:15:34 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: fatnotlazy
Yes, Mr. Seeger was a communist, but I'll bet 99% of the pop performers today are as well. Or they are communist sympathizers. It's funny to me because whether they realize it or not, they are actually capitalists. They have to be — if they weren't, they wouldn't be raking in the big bucks. I suppose they want communism only for the masses, not for themselves. No way would they give up their lavish lifestyles

As with so many other influential social icons, they come from affluent families of elites, seeped in communist teachings. Pete Seeger

19 posted on 01/28/2014 2:28:41 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"their goal is to change the very order of things

The very definition of leftism in the political sense is opposition to the established order. In this case, the basic fabric of society that has existed for thousands of years. And to replace it with their imaginary utopia, it must first be destroyed. That is what they mean by "change": destruction followed by some type of reconstruction which they have no idea how to bring about. A sane person would not get rid of something until they already have a better replacement. They don't.
20 posted on 01/28/2014 2:28:50 AM PST by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Communist revolutions are always brought about by elitists who don’t have to live in the systems they create. They of course know what’s best for everyone else, and doubtless deserve the rewards that come with being in the ruling class, having struggled so hard to make the world a better place (better for everyone who matters, that is).


21 posted on 01/28/2014 2:35:08 AM PST by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Such a great loss...... NOT!


22 posted on 01/28/2014 2:35:16 AM PST by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: dennisw

On that day, the phony folk music of Pete Seeger, Woody Guthrie, and Bob Dylan (version 1.0) and the saccharine schlock of Peter, Paul, and Mary, the Kingston Trio, and all the others died.

On that day, rock’n’roll, the REAL folk music of the 50s and 60s, the music of real people, began to be heard and respected for what it really was.

I feel no sadness for Seeger who died at the ripe old age of 94, my sadness is that someone like Bloomfield had to die so young.


23 posted on 01/28/2014 2:37:42 AM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

“.....In 2007, in response to criticism from a former banjo student—historian Ron Radosh, a former Trotskyite who now writes for the conservative National Review—Seeger wrote a song condemning Stalin, “Big Joe Blues”:

“I’m singing about old Joe, cruel Joe. / He ruled with an iron hand. /He put an end to the dreams / Of so many in every land. / He had a chance to make / A brand new start for the human race. / Instead he set it back / Right in the same nasty place. / I got the Big Joe Blues. / Keep your mouth shut or you will die fast. / I got the Big Joe Blues. / Do this job, no questions asked. / I got the Big Joe Blues.”

The song was accompanied by a letter to Radosh, in which Seeger stated, “I think you’re right, I should have asked to see the gulags when I was in U.S.S.R [in 1965].”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Seeger


24 posted on 01/28/2014 2:49:39 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

He was a commie. And now he is blowin’ in the wind.I guess thats his answer, as a marxist materialist, he finally found out it doesn’t matter because you can’t take it with you.


25 posted on 01/28/2014 2:50:30 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: fatnotlazy
I think today's liberals want to be ‘designer socialists’. They like what they have but want to change particular things. Some just want guns banned. Some just want socialized medicine. They don't think deeply enough to see that you can't have just some oppression. Any more than one can be ‘just a little pregnant’. Once you give up your liberties, the road to serfdom is ensured.
26 posted on 01/28/2014 3:08:10 AM PST by ArtDodger
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

No, Pete didn’t like Joe. But there is one thing that eludes these “intellectuals” who think they can make communism work if only the “right people” are in charge: governments are constantly changing hands. Even if you get a string of really good people who will rule benignly, eventually a really bad one will come along and forever lock the cycle of government into a tyranny.

In short, there is one major flaw that dooms socialism and communism to inevitable failure: too much power in the hands of government. In a perfect socialist society, all property is collectively owned. But there is one problem: who enforces this collectivism? It can’t be voluntary, or you will just have what we have today: free market. Socialists themselves refuse to admit this one flaw, and by overlooking a problem it doesn’t go away; it gets bigger. When government collectively owns all the resources which the people depend upon for basic survival, it has total power over life and death. It owns the people like prisoners, and there is a psychology that always accompanies that. Stockholm syndrome. It applies to the captors just as much as the captives, and it doesn’t turn out well for the captive.


27 posted on 01/28/2014 3:45:17 AM PST by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

Exactly.


28 posted on 01/28/2014 4:00:20 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

RIP Pete Seeger, a silly commie symp, but a great singer.


29 posted on 01/28/2014 4:10:35 AM PST by jocon307
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Thanks!


30 posted on 01/28/2014 4:32:35 AM PST by Oratam
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To: All

one less filthy commie..


31 posted on 01/28/2014 4:36:19 AM PST by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
While I've sang and played Seeger's tunes on my guitar, I've always felt a little ambivalent about it. My main beef against all the old commie folksingers like Seeger is how they went out of their way to politicize everything. Of course, being hardcore leftist commies, that's what they did.

But a lot of the songs they sang weren't real folk songs. The correct name would probably be more like neo-folk songs. If I wrote a song today protesting the Obama admin, it wouldn't be a folk song just because I played it on my acoustic guitar. It would just be a song.

Most good folk songs have stood the test of time. While many of the very old folk songs certainly were political in origin, most weren't. They were the popular tunes of their time. Like today, most were love songs. Many were about simply having a good time. Some told the news of the day. And there were a number that were political and unpopular with the powerful. But the communist folk music movement tried to inject their leftism into every song they sang.

And a lot of the greatest folk music is the non-verbal, dance music. Think Irish and Scottish jigs, reel, hornpipes and the like. It took me until I was almost thirty (I'm sixtyfour) to discover this whole other world of folk music that wasn't about hating rich, capitalist warmongers and making a new (commie) world for the masses.

32 posted on 01/28/2014 4:57:00 AM PST by driftless2
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

This Land Is My Land
by Barack Hussein Obama

Words and Music by William Ayers

This land is my land, this land is my land
From California to the New York island
From the red wood forests to the Gulf Stream waters
This land is closed because of me.

I closed memorials to World War veterans
And put up barricades across our parklands
I told my minions to make you suffer
This land is closed because of me.

As I was shutting the Mount Rushmore highways
I saw above me restricted airspace
I saw below me, off-limits canyons
This land is closed because of me.

I rode my tour bus and I saw a sign there
And on the sign it said “No Trespassing.”
But on the other side it didn’t say nothing,
That side is closed to you by me.

When the sun came shining, then I went golfing,
I took my putter and the ball went rolling,
It was a swell day at Andrews Air Force,
That base was kept open for me.

I’ve lied and cheated, and followed commies
I’ve demonized those evil ‘Pubbies
My neighbors dabble in domestic terror
This land’s transformed because of me.

Nobody living can ever stop me,
As I go walking that fascist highway;
Nobody living can make me turn back
This land was made to rule by me.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3079361/posts?page=4


33 posted on 01/28/2014 5:16:09 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad and lived with his parents .)
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To: Fresh Wind
"Bloomfield had to die so young"

He overdosed. He wasn't particularly young when he died. And his career was already over.

34 posted on 01/28/2014 5:51:26 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

No comment.


35 posted on 01/28/2014 5:54:32 AM PST by OKSooner ("As the riders went on by him, he heard one call his name...")
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To: Fresh Wind

What distinguishes real folk music from fake? Was Guthrie’s 1930s work real folk music? Or maybe the Carter Family?


36 posted on 01/28/2014 6:25:30 AM PST by Borges
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To: Borges

The Carter Family is real folk music. A.P. traveled about (sometimes with a black guitar player) collecting songs from the hills and hollers.

Woody wrote songs about his own life. In my book, that qualifies as real.


37 posted on 01/28/2014 6:30:19 AM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: driftless2
They were the popular tunes of their time. Like today, most were love songs. Many were about simply having a good time. Some told the news of the day.

Murder ballads.

38 posted on 01/28/2014 6:33:11 AM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: driftless2
Stanley Brothers (The Story Of The Lawson Family)
39 posted on 01/28/2014 6:36:35 AM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Ben Ficklin

37 isn’t young? Wait till you’re 94 and then tell me 37 isn’t young.


40 posted on 01/28/2014 6:59:28 AM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Mark Levin is so great at describing these people.

Utopianism is in their DNA.

They have a utopian dream for society.

It is unattainable, an impossibility.

They don’t really care about that.

It’s like Pelosi, Conyers, et al, didn’t really care whether the AFA could work or exactly what was in it.

Carrying the dream around in their heads, building a life around its mere existence, and deriving whatever acclaim, money and power they can get from it is what matters.

Communism for THEE, but not for ME...


41 posted on 01/28/2014 7:27:47 AM PST by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear. -Glenn Beck)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Good riddance.


42 posted on 01/28/2014 7:35:21 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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To: Borges
What distinguishes real folk music from fake? Was Guthrie’s 1930s work real folk music? Or maybe the Carter Family?

Woody Guthrie was a Communist, and Communists are totalitarians. Everything they do is for the Cause. They never deviate from this principal. They are "soldiers with guitars/pens/whatever." Have you never read how one Communist writer in Hollywood who said that not every single thing had to be about politics was raked over the coals by his comrades and made to grovel and recant?

Perhaps you are unaware that Guthrie and Seeger stuck with Stalin all through the non-aggression pact with Hitler (y'sh"z), traveling about and singing "peace" songs against interventin . . . until their "motherland" was invaded.

The Carters weren't Communists.

43 posted on 01/28/2014 7:48:27 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

I’m perfectly aware that they were of 1930s style Marxists. I was wondering what made their folk music ‘fake’.


44 posted on 01/28/2014 7:52:36 AM PST by Borges
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Folk music.

Dreadful.

45 posted on 01/28/2014 8:15:02 AM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: Fresh Wind
I'm not comparing him to me. I'm comparing him to other guitarists.

Clarence White died younger, didn't die from drugs, and had an ascending career. Not to mention Vaughn or Holly.

Bloomfield was at Newport in 65 with Dylan. Clarence White was at Newport in 64 with Doc Watson.

Most people don't even know even know who he is or they may know him only for his B Bender electric guitar. But prior he was an innovator on the acoustic guitar.

No telling where he would have taken guitar music had he not experienced the sharp knife of a short life.

But as a way of an example, Tony Rice ended up owning White's acoustic Martin Guitar and Marty Stuart ended up owning White's original B Bender Telecaster, which he used to record the Hummingbyrd album in 2011. He won a grammy playing Clarence White style music on Clarence White's guitar, almost 40 years later.

46 posted on 01/28/2014 8:21:39 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin

Clarence and brother Roland are on the Andy Griffith Show a couple of times in the first seasons. They never let those two talk, only Billy Ray and Leroy Mack, because their thick Maine accents wouldn’t work in Mayberry.


47 posted on 01/28/2014 8:39:04 AM PST by eartrumpet
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To: eartrumpet
"thick Maine accents"

My grandmother in Vermont, rest her soul, would have called that a French Canadian accent, and she detested those frenchies.

The family name was Le Blanc and they changed it to White

48 posted on 01/28/2014 10:10:44 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Folk music icon Pete Seeger dies at 94

Meh

49 posted on 01/28/2014 10:13:15 AM PST by BlueMondaySkipper (Involuntarily subsidizing the parasite class since 1981)
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To: All


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50 posted on 01/28/2014 10:13:41 AM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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