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Piers Morgan's Latest Idea: Ban Gun Sales and Ownership For People Under 25
Townhall.com ^ | January 28, 2014 | Katie Pavlich

Posted on 01/28/2014 6:14:09 AM PST by Kaslin

Yesterday during another one of his illogical gun rants, CNN host Piers Morgan suggested that because many mass shootings are carried out by people under 25, that we should ban gun purchases and ownership of guns for everyone under 25.

Given the young ages of most mass/random shooters in America, I'd make it illegal for anyone under 25 to buy a gun of any kind. — Piers Morgan (@piersmorgan) January 27, 2014

He also tried to compare owning a gun to renting a car.

It's almost impossible to rent a car under the age of 25 in America - why not regulate guns the same way? Just common sense. — Piers Morgan (@piersmorgan) January 27, 2014

First off, I take issue with people like Morgan classifying mass murderers as "gun owners." Second, mass shootings make up a tiny fraction of the overall crime rate and death by gunshot wound rate in America.

For all the attention they receive, mass shootings are not the main source of gun violence. In 2010, according to the FBI, around 8,775 people were murdered with firearms in the United States. Less than 1 percent of those victims were killed in mass shootings.

Third, a major crime study released earlier this month showed that it is nearly impossible to identify mass killers who use a firearm in crimes because their characteristics are those of many in the overall population.

Murderers tend to be male Caucasians with psychological issues, but these characteristics apply to a very large portion of the population.

Finally, comparing the act of renting a car and owning a firearm is absurd and irrelevant, not "common sense." Renting a car isn't a constitutional right. In many states, teenagers are allowed to own a car in their name at the age of 16, not to mention it isn't impossible to rent a car before age 25, it just costs more. There are already laws on the books when it comes to firearms purchases and in many states people can purchase a handgun or rifle at the age of 18, taking full advantage of their Second Amendment rights just as they would take advantage of their right to vote. Other states require a person be 21 before being able to legally purchase a firearm.

According to the National Shooting Sports Foundation, 21.8 percent of target shooters in America are under the age of 25. None of those people are mass murderers but instead law abiding citizens exercising their rights in an effort to be responsible for their own safety. The smearing of gun owners, especially young gun owners in America, only further shows Morgan's ignorance on the issue.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: piersmorgan; secondamendment

1 posted on 01/28/2014 6:14:09 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Ban gun ownership for Libs.


2 posted on 01/28/2014 6:16:32 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: Kaslin

Most young criminals who use guns don’t buy them legally. A law like this would accomplish nothing.


3 posted on 01/28/2014 6:18:07 AM PST by Borges
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To: Kaslin

I have a better idea: Ban everyone named Piers Morgan from breathing the earth’s air……….send them to outer space and let them orbit a few years.


4 posted on 01/28/2014 6:18:12 AM PST by basil (2ASisters.org)
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To: Kaslin
Why not be even more direct in solving the problem Piers?

Ban gun ownership for young black males.

5 posted on 01/28/2014 6:18:20 AM PST by Last Dakotan
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To: Kaslin
Murderers tend to be male Caucasians with psychological issues, but these characteristics apply to a very large portion of the population.

Also a very large proportion of the posters on FR.

6 posted on 01/28/2014 6:19:57 AM PST by Last Dakotan
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To: Last Dakotan

Hey, if you’re going to narrow it down to the identifiable demographic that most uses guns for criminal activity,

you gotta go there.


7 posted on 01/28/2014 6:20:57 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Kaslin
awesome idea because as we all know all people under 25 can't be trusted with guns...

said no drill sgt. ever!

8 posted on 01/28/2014 6:21:28 AM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Kaslin

Hey Piers, why don’t you march into the ‘hood and propose banning guns? Just tell the bangers to “give ‘em up” and see how you do.


9 posted on 01/28/2014 6:22:57 AM PST by Baynative (Got bulbs? Check my profile page.)
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To: Kaslin

“The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed”


10 posted on 01/28/2014 6:22:59 AM PST by faithhopecharity (C)
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To: Kaslin

Let’s just ban Piers Morgan, instead.


11 posted on 01/28/2014 6:23:12 AM PST by MortMan (Is a delayed shower a "stay of exablution"?)
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To: Kaslin

I suppose the minimum age to join the military should be 25 as well.


12 posted on 01/28/2014 6:23:15 AM PST by BulletBobCo
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To: BulletBobCo

Change the voting age too.

You should have at least some life experience before voting so you know what you are actually voting for. When you are young, free government stuff sounds good. As you get older, you learn free isn’t free and you are the one actually paying for it via taxes.


14 posted on 01/28/2014 6:28:09 AM PST by Dutch Boy
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To: Kaslin

Piers, you idiot. In this country, people join the military at the age of 17. The government issues them guns. That some goofy stuff you’re spewing there Skippy.


15 posted on 01/28/2014 6:31:18 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (ObamaCare. The "global warming" of healthcare plans.)
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To: Kaslin

How about banning them for European Marxists?


16 posted on 01/28/2014 6:33:59 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Osama Obama Care: A Religion That Will Have You On Your Knees!)
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To: Kaslin

Those people who do most of the shootings already get their guns illegally. What makes this dip$—t think they will obey his new law?


17 posted on 01/28/2014 6:34:21 AM PST by expat2
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To: Kaslin

Piers Morgan Latest Plan: Burn the Church!

http://youtu.be/2Py2LZNb79Q


18 posted on 01/28/2014 6:34:53 AM PST by PATRIOT1876
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To: Kaslin

I’m glad that David Crockett got his first rifle very early in life. There’s a lesson therein.


19 posted on 01/28/2014 6:36:19 AM PST by onedoug
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To: expat2

Most of these Grabbers act like there’s some giant magnet somewhere that will suck up all the guns, and along with them, the knowledge of how to make them.

And now, all the 3D printers as well.


20 posted on 01/28/2014 6:36:24 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Kaslin
The vast majority of these murderous rampagers are pansy-assed big government anti-American leftist Democrats. Should we ban gun ownership by them, Piersey Wiersey?
21 posted on 01/28/2014 6:36:44 AM PST by golux
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To: Kaslin

Is there a huge gun rental business out there that Piles of Morgan Dung wants to regulate?


22 posted on 01/28/2014 6:37:01 AM PST by Autonomous User
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To: Kaslin

If they are that irresponsible, then they shouldn’t be allowed to vote, either, Pierce.


23 posted on 01/28/2014 6:37:16 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The only way women can "have it all" is if men aren't allowed to have anything.)
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To: Kaslin

Just another ratings enhacement program.


24 posted on 01/28/2014 6:38:11 AM PST by buffaloguy
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To: Kaslin

The UK has passed all kinds of laws banning handguns, rifles, knives, martial arts weapons, etc., but it does little to prevent violent crimes. Mass shootings are a very small part of violent crime to begin with.

The real issue is ... Why do all these mass shootings seem to occur at malls and schools? [ hint gunfree zones ]


25 posted on 01/28/2014 6:39:41 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Kaslin
Since he can't overtly call for a ban on young urban black males, this is the best he can do.

Same psychology that lies behind "zero tolerance" school policies - dealing solely with the actual troublemakers invites immediate charges of racism, so they back into into it by punishing everybody.

26 posted on 01/28/2014 6:44:03 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: Kaslin

Piers Morgan is British. He should STFU on matters that involve the United States. His opinion is not wanted.


27 posted on 01/28/2014 6:46:36 AM PST by BuffaloJack (Freedom isn't free; nor is it easy.)
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To: Kaslin

Could Great Britain please call its limey poofter back home before he thoroughly disgraces them?


28 posted on 01/28/2014 6:46:54 AM PST by x1stcav ("The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there.")
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To: Kaslin

Why doesn’t that son of a banshee just go back to Jolly Old England, and leave us the hell alone?


29 posted on 01/28/2014 6:47:15 AM PST by backwoods-engineer (Blog: www.BackwoodsEngineer.com)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

My first thought as well...
They should wait until they are 25, married, own real property, and have 2 kids.

Just slightly exaggerating...


30 posted on 01/28/2014 6:48:24 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Kaslin

Can’t we get this pos to go back to England?


31 posted on 01/28/2014 6:49:05 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: Kaslin
CNN host Piers Morgan suggested that because many mass shootings are carried out by people under 25, that we should ban gun purchases and ownership of guns for everyone under 25.

Another display of brilliance by Morgan. {snort} Because making it illegal for them to own/possess a firearm will stop youths from using them to break other laws. Rigggghhhhtttt... So Piers - you don't mind if I call you Piers do you? I mean, we've been peering inside that twisted illogical thing you call your mind so much I feel I know you well enough to call you Piers...

So Piers, you really think someone prepared to break a dozen laws or more, including committing murder, will be deterred by having to break another law regarding firearm ownership? What kind of fantasy world do you live in Piers? What time do the unicorns come out and play each day?

See, in my world Piers the evil and insane people who perpetrate crimes such as mass shootings aren't deterred by 10 laws or 20 laws or more. In fact the more notoriety they get the better for many of them.

In my world Piers the 8 or 9 thousand wrongful deaths by firearms each year are a terrible thing. However, those are balanced against the 2.5 million defensive uses of firearms each year. In my world, I realize that without the means to defend themselves (as you Piers suggest and promote) a very high percentage of these incidents would not be stopped. In my world I realize that without firearms we would have tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands of additional rapes, murders, and violent attacks carried out.

So, Piers, in your futile attempt to prevent some small fraction of 9 thousand deaths a year, how many tens of thousands of rapes and murders can we put on your tab, your conscious? You do actually care about people right? There is no other agenda here besides public safety, right?


I have long held the belief that there are two, and only two kinds of people who favor and promote "gun control."

In one group there are those who lack the facts about firearms ownership and use in the US. Sane, rational people in this group when presented with the real facts and whole picture -- not the agenda-driven spin from the left and MSM -- generally see the light. It may take some time to fundamentally change their outlook. Once they see it though, they are generally angry at having been lied to and manipulated by the left and MSM to their own peril. Some however, even when presented with the facts remain fervently wed to their beliefs in spite of the facts. These people are a lost cause, woefully, willfully ignorant by their own choosing.

The second group is far more sinister. They know the facts about firearms and they don't care. They also know their history and realize they cannot implement a controlling fascist society as long as their target peasants remain armed and have the means to resist their control. They are taking their cue from numerous dictators and fascists over the past century who first disarmed their targets before imposing their will on them. Oh, and along the way killed over 50 million of their newly disarmed subjects too.

That is it people. If you are pro gun control you are either ignorant of the facts or a fascist. There is no middle ground.

32 posted on 01/28/2014 6:53:46 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Kaslin

I thought we deported that “A-hole”


33 posted on 01/28/2014 6:53:55 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Resolute Conservative

I think he has got to get the indictment for his involvement in the phone hacking quashed before he can go back.


34 posted on 01/28/2014 6:54:23 AM PST by RetiredTexasVet (Stalin is smiling in Hell at how well Obama has copied his communist organization.)
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To: Kaslin

Here’s an idea for Piss Morgan...go back to England and face your criminal charges.


35 posted on 01/28/2014 6:56:43 AM PST by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: Kaslin

Then they can’t vote either.

Which causes more harm? The vote or the gun?


36 posted on 01/28/2014 6:58:28 AM PST by ealgeone (obama, border)
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To: x1stcav

No chance...they just got rid of him!!!


37 posted on 01/28/2014 7:33:18 AM PST by ontap
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To: Kaslin

Ban Voting for (25) and younger?


38 posted on 01/28/2014 7:38:20 AM PST by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: Kaslin
Wait, I know. Ban the 1st Amendment of the Constitution also for those (25) and younger.
Heck, ban Money for those (25) and younger. Ban the Constitution for everyone
(25) and younger, That's it!
39 posted on 01/28/2014 7:40:31 AM PST by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: BulletBobCo; Dutch Boy
Piers has a point....barely. Young males are really less mature than they were even 20 years ago. If he wants consistancy, then make everything consistant:

Voting, age 25.
Military service 25.

Homeownership 25.
Age of sexual consent/marriage 25.

Consumption of alcohol 25.

Gun ownership, etc.

However, I don't agree with the ages, but I do agree everything should be consistant. One thing that really chapped my butt is my soldiers, 17-20 couldn't drink, but had been on 2-3 tours in the 'stan and Iraq, nor could they purchase a handgun for defense when home on leave. I think the best answer is like Heinlein said: Compulsary military service, 3 years, THEN you get citizen rights contained in Consitution.

Can't hack it in the military? Good. Go build a something in the Middle East or Central Asia for 3 years surrounded by people trying to kill you for your beliefs. If you make it back, you are a citizen with all rights granted! (*and these little narcissistic kids today that only care about Idol, Xbox, selfies, twerking, Mylie Cyrus, and JustaBeiber will be alot more appreciative of the US).

40 posted on 01/28/2014 7:40:58 AM PST by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: Kaslin

Profiling based on age??? Now that’s purely discriminatory!


41 posted on 01/28/2014 7:57:27 AM PST by SIRTRIS
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To: Kaslin



42 posted on 01/28/2014 7:58:19 AM PST by mrmeyer (You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. – Robert Heinlein)
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To: Kaslin
Hey, You Liberals, You First!
(that includes your personal bodyguards first,
then LEOs,Then Soldiers etc..etc..)

cheap @$, blithering fools
"Laws for thy, but not for me"

43 posted on 01/28/2014 8:12:21 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi)
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To: DCBryan1

[ I think the best answer is like Heinlein said: Compulsary military service, 3 years, THEN you get citizen rights contained in Consitution. ]

I agree, only veterans should vote.


44 posted on 01/28/2014 8:33:34 AM PST by GraceG
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To: Kaslin

If Piers’ idea worked, we could just pass a law making law-breaking illegal.


45 posted on 01/28/2014 8:34:35 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: Kaslin

Why does the nancyboy hate people under 25 as to deny them their right to self defense?


46 posted on 01/28/2014 9:59:05 AM PST by CodeToad (When ignorance rules a person's decision they are resorting to superstition.)
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To: Kaslin

Comparing gun ownership to renting a car makes sense. At least in the mind of Piers.

Why don’t we go farther and compare gun ownership to collecting Social Security, namely that you have to be 62 to do it?

I suppose lunatics like Morgan believe that nobody will notice a fool’s plan if it only goes part of the way to total absurdity.


47 posted on 01/28/2014 9:59:38 AM PST by DPMD
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To: Baynative

Drive one mile past this sign, preferrably on Friday or Saturday night, before stopping to make your announcement. Wear something in Red or Blue: East St. Louis Welcomes You!


48 posted on 01/28/2014 11:11:27 AM PST by OriginalChristian (The end of America, as founded, began when the first Career Politician was elected...)
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