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Why Pro-Amnesty Republicans Are So Desperate To Pass Immigration Reform This Year
Townhall ^ | 1/28/14 | John Hawkins

Posted on 01/28/2014 6:40:37 AM PST by jimbo123

The most intriguing question about the latest GOP push on immigration is one that no one seems to be asking: Why does the Republican Party seem so determined to push immigration reform this year?

At first glance, it makes no sense whatsoever.

After all, because of Obamacare the electoral landscape is so tilted towards the GOP that it looks likely we'll add seats in the House and take the Senate back. With the filibuster as good as dead, why wouldn't Republicans want to write a tough immigration bill on their terms in 2015 and force Obama to either sign on to it or veto a bill that the public supports?

Furthermore, Obama is illegally giving out work permits, refusing to deport most captured illegals and he has illegitimately created a DREAM ACT by fiat. This is a man who has made absolutely clear that he has no intention of enforcing immigration law; so how do you make any kind of deal that relies on his implementing even tougher rules?

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty

1 posted on 01/28/2014 6:40:37 AM PST by jimbo123
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2 posted on 01/28/2014 6:42:45 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: jimbo123; Liz; GeronL; Travis McGee; stephenjohnbanker; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; USS Johnston; ..
From link : “After all, because of Obamacare the electoral landscape is so tilted towards the GOP that it looks likely we'll add seats in the House and take the Senate back. With the filibuster as good as dead, why wouldn't Republicans want to write a tough immigration bill on their terms in 2015 and force Obama to either sign on to it or veto a bill that the public supports? “

???? Any bill that gives US citizenship is not that tough.
I could write a tough bill that would make it hurt Dems to support it.

This writer is on the amnesty side.

My theory is that the GOP wants this over by the 2016 primary and they figure they will pick up seats this year no matter what, but it will never be over. No matter what GOP passes Dems will demand more the next election.

Cokie Roberts on ABC Sunday claims the bill will be put up for a vote after its too late to file for primary challenges.

3 posted on 01/28/2014 6:48:40 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'Any path to citizenship for illegals isa special path')
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To: jimbo123

I guess that’s the reason. I sure can’t think of anything else except some of those idiots actually think they than get the Hispanic vote.


4 posted on 01/28/2014 6:50:43 AM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: jimbo123

Republicans.

Get with the program. America’s problem isn’t that we do not have enough immigration.

America’s problem is that we do not have enough JOBS.


5 posted on 01/28/2014 6:52:13 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ( http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: jimbo123

So, I read JHs article all the way through. AND?

It implies GOP RINOs want amnesty so they can get that mythical Hispanic vote. But it also indicates the very, very real counter to that Democrats stand to gain the great bounty - 20-50 million new ‘Hispanic’ formerly-illegal voters.

The truth is entrenched RINOs are hostage to their comfort with second-rate power, their money grubbing-totally-self-interested-consultants, business that values profit above sovereignty, and a general cowardice that keeps them from ‘being liked’ by the media and all the other attendees at their DC country club soirees.

JH rightly recounts all the things Obama has illegally done to flout immigration laws and policy meant to maintain our sovereignty. Yet, he fails to stress that RINO implementation of a capitulation amnesty plan serves only to legitimize what Obama has done and is doing.

Who said madness doesn’t exist on a wide scale. I say it exists with every RINO and GOPe nutball who has somehow convinced honest sovereign Americans to vote for them. This is true madness.


6 posted on 01/28/2014 6:52:37 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: jimbo123
Money, money, money, money. Zuckerberg has bought Paul Ryan, Cantor and Boehner. When they alienate the base and hurt the GOP, Zuckerberg will have won and the GOP will be very much weakened.

All it takes is for our leadership to eschew corruption. But, not likely.

7 posted on 01/28/2014 7:02:01 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: RIghtwardHo
Common sense Conservatism gets the Hispanic vote, and Black vote. Period.
The GOP will not sell Conservatism, that's the problem because they
"have become" progressive Democrats, while Democrats have moved Socialist.
8 posted on 01/28/2014 7:02:56 AM PST by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: Paladin2
Why now? The TEA Party is on the ascendancy. The Democrats already passed Amnesty in the Senate. If the GOPe can't get an immigration bill, ANY immigration bill, into conference this year then the whole process will have to start again after the next election. It will be much much harder then. With more TEA Party types in the House and Senate the current GOP Leadership is toast. How would Amnesty get through with Ted Cruz as the Senate Majority leader?

The current GOPe Leadership are Globlalist meatpuppets and under great pressure to do this NOW before the jig is up.

9 posted on 01/28/2014 7:08:14 AM PST by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: jimbo123

Because they are going to get flushed down the crapper, and they know it.


10 posted on 01/28/2014 7:10:05 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: MaxMax
Common sense Conservatism gets the Hispanic vote, and Black vote. Period.

No, it won't. Most blacks and Hispanics favor Big Government. They have a vested interest in maintaining Dem control because they depend on government benefits.


11 posted on 01/28/2014 7:10:10 AM PST by kabar
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To: sickoflibs
QUESTION: Why Are Pro-Amnesty Republicans So Desperate To Pass Immigration Reform This Year?

ANSWER: They want to realize their long-held death wish.

12 posted on 01/28/2014 7:10:36 AM PST by Liz
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To: Gaffer
It implies GOP RINOs want amnesty so they can get that mythical Hispanic vote.

IDIOTS. Maybe they should try deporting illegals and having a moratorium on all immigration, and then there won't be so many Hispanics here to pander to, and maybe some of the disgusted patriots who have been staying home from the polls will vote for the GOP.

13 posted on 01/28/2014 7:12:20 AM PST by Nea Wood
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To: kabar

Those demographics have the GOP freaked out. I believe over 50% of elementary school kids in CA are Hispanic. Just wait till that Dem wave hits TX and FL. Third world here we come. The historic GOP is done.


14 posted on 01/28/2014 7:15:03 AM PST by lodi90
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To: Nea Wood

They some of the ‘hispanic’ vote, they got the ‘independent’ and ‘moderate’ vote in 2012.

What they did not get, and will not get is the ‘conservative’ vote. Their pundits, lazy entrenched RINOs and their money-grubbing consultants don’t realize, there are more, millions and millions more out there that are close to doing the same darn thing come 2016 if they persist with their insanity and nominate somebody like Jeb Bush, Christie or other false-flag politician.


15 posted on 01/28/2014 7:16:16 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: jimbo123

The GOP thinks with the kenyan in the WH and obamacare on the table that the base will vote for them anyway. Sorry, no deal. Romney was my last hold your nose vote.

There is simply no longer any reason for a conservative to vote for a Republican party that does nothing but enable the progressive agenda.


16 posted on 01/28/2014 7:22:03 AM PST by lodi90
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To: jimbo123

Because they make more personal fortune being on the minority side and making side deals. Being in the majority is too much work, not enough pay.


17 posted on 01/28/2014 7:26:44 AM PST by CincyRichieRich (Living in a surreal world where wrong is now right and right is wrong.)
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To: jimbo123

It is tragic there is no intelligent discussion of such an important issue.

It can’t be immigration “reform” without strict numerical limits. An entitlement for anyone here is a disaster. Could add 50 million.

And it can’t be “reform” unless a considerable percentage of illegals are sent back to their own countries.

Ever hear anyone discussing this? If the middle class doesn’t stand up America is finished.


18 posted on 01/28/2014 7:29:09 AM PST by Williams (No Obama)
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To: lodi90
Near the end:

In other words, passing the bill could hurt the GOP in the short term with Hispanic voters and demographically flood conservatism out of existence over the long term if the Republicans cave yet again and give those illegals citizenship.

Further proof we live in a majoritarian, democratic republic, where the pols who can garner the most votes rule, and enumerated powers mean nothing.

19 posted on 01/28/2014 7:31:13 AM PST by Jacquerie (Restore federalism and freedom. Repeal the 17th.)
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To: lodi90
In some respects I agree with you. But right now I believe the GOP is being stampeded by these demographics. The Hispanic vote is still relatively small. The latino vote made up about 10% of the vote. 53% of Hispanics self identify as white.

The Democrats, under the banner of multiculturalism and diversity, have forged a political coalition that depends on individuals coalescing around racial and ethnic identities rather than the issues. The continuing and increasing flow of minority immigrants, mostly poor and uneducated, provides a natural constituency for the Democrats, which see them as their principal source of political power.

We encourage and incentivize group identity thru affirmative action, minority business set asides, etc. An immigrant from Mexico or Nigeria can take advantage of such benefits as soon as they get here. Why should they get any advantage over non-Hispanic whites? What past injustices or grievances do they have that need to be addressed? 87% of the 1.2 million legal immigrants that enter annually are minorities as classified by the USG.

Since the 1965 Immigration Act, our pro-population growth immigration policies have fueled major demographic changes in a very short period of time. In 1970, non-Hispanic whites comprised 89 percent of the population; today they are 63 percent; and by 2043, they will be 50 percent.


20 posted on 01/28/2014 7:32:29 AM PST by kabar
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To: CincyRichieRich

Because they make more personal fortune being on the minority side and making side deals. Being in the majority is too much work, not enough pay.


Winner winner chicken dinner. The GOP doesn’t really want to oppose the rampaging marxists. What they want most of all is a deal with a nice a juicy cut of the pie. They were happy to cut vet retirement pay and use those DOD dollars for new appropriations for their big donors.

That is flat out corruption since naturally some of that money will be kicked back to the GOP appropriators in campaign/lobbyist donations.


21 posted on 01/28/2014 7:34:29 AM PST by lodi90
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

The Senate has still not submitted the Gang of 8 bill to the House. Reid knows it will be sent back blue-slipped for revision because it violates the origination clause. No immigration bill should come out of the House because it will be paired with the Gang of 8 bill in conference.


22 posted on 01/28/2014 7:36:14 AM PST by kabar
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To: Mamzelle
Money, money, money, money.

Its clear now how the Great American Experiment will die, and we know the names of those who finally killed it.

23 posted on 01/28/2014 7:36:26 AM PST by skeeter
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To: jimbo123

Because they don’t want the statists to lose power.


24 posted on 01/28/2014 7:39:02 AM PST by FrdmLvr ("WE ARE ALL OSAMA, 0BAMA!" al-Qaeda terrorists who breached the American compound in Benghazi)
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To: lodi90
Those demographics have the GOP freaked out.

Then maybe they should have spoken out for the past 15, 20 years, demanded the borders be closed and illegals deported. Instead they pandered to businesses that wanted cheap labor. Now there are tens of millions of new Democrat voters here, and more being born or flooding across the borders all the time. And the GOP is freaking out? What did they THINK would happen?

Well, they don't call them the Stupid Party for nothing.

25 posted on 01/28/2014 7:40:30 AM PST by Nea Wood
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To: jimbo123
well..If they don't it this year, then the US C.o.C. Congressional
GOP/e Bribery Checks will bounce skyhigh.

26 posted on 01/28/2014 7:45:42 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi)
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To: Mamzelle

Our little primary voters are just not informed enough to take charge and remove the failure.


27 posted on 01/28/2014 7:45:54 AM PST by Theodore R.
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To: skeeter

At the top of the list of those who killed the American people will be the uninformed Republican primary voters who produce the Boehners, the McCs, the Grahams, the Lamar!s.


28 posted on 01/28/2014 7:47:20 AM PST by Theodore R.
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To: Williams
If the middle class doesn’t stand up America is finished

They're too uninformed to stand up, and millions see everything as rosy.

29 posted on 01/28/2014 7:49:15 AM PST by Theodore R.
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To: Nea Wood
Then maybe they should have spoken out for the past 15, 20 years, demanded the borders be closed and illegals deported. Instead they pandered to businesses that wanted cheap labor...Well, they don't call them the Stupid Party for nothing.
ditto that, fire the entire GOP/e Congressional Ldrs. Class...
might as well, the pannies are shaking in fear/dread now.

30 posted on 01/28/2014 7:51:39 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi)
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To: jimbo123

The one that puzzles me more than these RINO Republican’s push for immigration reform is Paul Ryan’s budget that cut Veteran’s retirement benefits.

What in the world did the Republican Party hope to gain by pushing every Veteran in this country out of the Republican Party and into Independent/unaffiliated?


31 posted on 01/28/2014 7:56:34 AM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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"What in the world did the Republican Party hope to gain by pushing every Veteran in this country out of the Republican Party and into Independent/unaffiliated?"

Me thinks this be a trial balloon to see if the GOPe and Dems can get away with cutting Social Security and Medicare in the future. If the Vets do not howl too much over being screwed, the old folks should be easy. Both parties are complicit together in a power and wealth grab.

32 posted on 01/28/2014 8:21:21 AM PST by buckalfa (Tilting at Windmills)
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To: jimbo123

The GOPe and the corrupt fascist Government Motors type corporations keep discriminating against America and want to show they are not greedy and racist by making friends with poor Obama and illegals.


33 posted on 01/28/2014 8:43:07 AM PST by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: Gaffer

The Rinos want a Rino vote, slimey Chrispy Cream with Romney sauce style. Get illegals the preference over conservatives and they can act like they are not racist while protecting their family ties of scumbags.

The way it is going like this, America will soon hand itself over to Mexicans. Even NYC has no more liberal talk radio but hispanic channels instead.


34 posted on 01/28/2014 8:48:22 AM PST by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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What happens if 11 mllion illegals get citizenship status? Well, for the majority of red states, it won’t make a bit of difference. It won’t change the electoral balance being that most of the illegals will be in heavily blue states.

Really, this is about one and one thing only. The rats are trying to turn Texas blue.


35 posted on 01/28/2014 8:49:59 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz ("The GOP fights its own base with far more vigor than it employs in fighting the Dims.")
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Indeed. But it will not merely turn blue, it will turn green white and red mexican.

The country is so divided in asserting idiot fools in power to retract from the competent that the terrorists are promoted instead.


36 posted on 01/28/2014 9:17:08 AM PST by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: jimbo123

Because they’ve already surrendered on everything else?


37 posted on 01/28/2014 9:23:21 AM PST by Arm_Bears (Refuse; Resist; Rebel; Revolt!)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
"What happens if 11 mllion illegals get citizenship status"

There is at minimum 3 times that number in the US.

Here's the kicker.

Hispanics ALREADY "don't like" the GOP. At BEST they "might" get 40% of the vote.

Now figure ILLEGALS, who are automatically going to vote for welfare and free $hit, and the GOP isn't going to win ANYTHING higher than 20%.

The stupidity is mind boggling.

Don't the GOP congressmembers LIKE at least being in congress?

If this passes, they won't be.

38 posted on 01/28/2014 12:19:22 PM PST by boop (Liberal religion. No rules, just right!)
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To: Jacquerie

Correct.


39 posted on 01/28/2014 7:28:39 PM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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