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Dem senators intervene in Hobby Lobby case, urge justices to deny ObamaCare exemption
foxnews.com ^ | 1/28/14 | AP/foxnews

Posted on 01/28/2014 9:30:08 AM PST by ColdOne

arguing that "secular" businesses should not be exempt from the mandate.

The 19 senators planned to file a brief before the court, which is still weeks away from considering the closely watched case. Sen. Patty Murray, D-Wash., who planned to make her case on the Senate floor, adamantly defended the Obama administration's side.

"What's at stake in this case before the Supreme Court is whether a CEO's personal beliefs can trump a woman's right to access free or low-cost contraception under the Affordable Care Act," she said in prepared remarks.

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KEYWORDS: abortion; antichristian; attackchristians; billgates; eugenics; hobbylobby; obamacare; scotus; unconstitutional
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1 posted on 01/28/2014 9:30:08 AM PST by ColdOne
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To: ColdOne

Fascists do as fascists are.


2 posted on 01/28/2014 9:32:31 AM PST by AnalogReigns (Real life is ANALOG!)
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To: ColdOne

Next headline

‘Dem senators urge SCOTUS to crush Little Sisters of the Poor’.

If our guys had any balls, they’d be calling out Murray and her groupies on the senate floor for the blackshirts they are.


3 posted on 01/28/2014 9:32:51 AM PST by Viennacon
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To: ColdOne
For all the good they do, it kinda’ makes one wonder why we have a bill of rights.
4 posted on 01/28/2014 9:33:54 AM PST by Jacquerie (Restore federalism and freedom. Repeal the 17th.)
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To: ColdOne
Making sure the Judicial Branch is protected from political forces is a terrific idea, the very foundation of our form of government.

Until it inconveniences the Left's never-ending drive to insinuate it's agenda into every nook and cranny of our society.

5 posted on 01/28/2014 9:34:08 AM PST by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: Viennacon
If our guys had any balls,

If our guys had any balls, we wouldn't be in this situation.

6 posted on 01/28/2014 9:35:04 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Viennacon

“Our guys” are too busy signing on budget deals that shortchange disables veterans.


7 posted on 01/28/2014 9:35:50 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Viennacon
‘Dem senators urge SCOTUS to crush Little Sisters of the Poor’.

Another in the future: "Democratic Senators force Grandmothers to use Birth Control Pills"

8 posted on 01/28/2014 9:36:20 AM PST by sr4402
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To: ColdOne

But, it’s OK to grant total exemptions to the SEIU and other commie unions?

The arrogance of this criminal administration knows no bounds.

Time to warm up the tar kettles, IMO. We may yet see the blood of tyrants mixed with the blood of patriots refreshing the tree of liberty. Sooner rather than later would be better. I really don’t want my kids and grandkids to have to deal with the lyin’ scum that have become our elected elitists.


9 posted on 01/28/2014 9:37:06 AM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2016; I pray we make it that long.)
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To: ColdOne
...a woman's right to access free or low-cost contraception under the Affordable Care Act,"...

What's next, a woman's right to Ron Jeremy.

10 posted on 01/28/2014 9:37:12 AM PST by depressed in 06 (America conceived in liberty, dies in slavery.)
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To: Steely Tom
Making sure the Judicial Branch is protected from political forces is a terrific idea, the very foundation of our form of government.

Well, from Article III the congress has lots of power it is too frightened to use against our runaway courts.

11 posted on 01/28/2014 9:38:36 AM PST by Jacquerie (Restore federalism and freedom. Repeal the 17th.)
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To: Izzy Dunne

“If our guys had any balls,

If our guys had any balls, we wouldn’t be in this situation.”

If WE had any balls, we wouldn’t be in this situation.


12 posted on 01/28/2014 9:38:40 AM PST by Gadsden1st
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To: ColdOne
CEO's personal beliefs can trump a woman's right to access free or low-cost contraception

Where is the Hobby Lobby CEO saying "You can't have contraception!!"?

I thought he was just saying, "I'm not going to pay for it.".

13 posted on 01/28/2014 9:39:41 AM PST by wbill
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To: depressed in 06

Right to access? What does that mean?

It sounds like a woman couldn’t go out to any 1 of tens of thousands of doctors to get a prescription and then go to any of a million pharmacies to fill said prescription.

heck i thought women could do that already.


14 posted on 01/28/2014 9:39:41 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Jacquerie
For all the good they do, it kinda’ makes one wonder why we have a bill of rights.

Were it a different age, I would have one plastered on my shield as I enter into battle against The Regime.

Should it come to it in my time, I will have one in my pocket at the appropriate time.

15 posted on 01/28/2014 9:40:44 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts ("The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it." - George Orwell)
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To: sr4402

This stinks of mandatory state religion.

The Demcrats are establishing “god” in the party image.


16 posted on 01/28/2014 9:40:54 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: ColdOne

Kon-sty-two-shun?

What’s Kon-sty-two-shun?

Oh sorry, we don’t do Kon-sty-two-shun here. It’s racist, sexist and homophobic.

Now go pay your taxes. Your hard working government needs a raise. :)


17 posted on 01/28/2014 9:42:48 AM PST by Tzimisce
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To: ColdOne

Is there a list of the Dem. senators who signed that brief?


18 posted on 01/28/2014 9:43:59 AM PST by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: Steely Tom
This kind of attempted political intervention in the judicial process at the highest level, the Supreme Court, is outrageous but typical of the constitution-hating left that controls the Democrat party. Republican senators have a golden opportunity to excoriate the Democrats for this high-handed political interference in a Supreme Court case being reviewed but of course they are effectively silent, as usual, except when running for re-election as 'conservatives'. Then they'll tell us how terrible this kind of intervention by leftist Democrats really is but the 'political climate' wasn't right for them to express their opinion at the time.

The reality is that the left has the GOP establishment scared to death of losing the 'women's vote' with the Democrat's 'war on women' meme and they fear that opposing the Democrat attempt to influence the Supreme Court on the contraception issue that Obamacare has brought will hurt their RINO candidates in November. This mindset ignores the fact that the establishment GOP is losing the conservative vote big-time for their timidity in just such situations as this.

19 posted on 01/28/2014 9:47:56 AM PST by Jim Scott
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To: ColdOne

I’m not sure the court will accept the brief.


20 posted on 01/28/2014 9:49:05 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: wbill

Exactly, no one is saying they can’t have contraception. It is just that he is not willing to pay for it due to his religous beliefs. Is there any class action suit by Hobby Lobby associates against him for his refusal to pay for it? I have heard nothing if there is. It is just the government overreaching again.


21 posted on 01/28/2014 9:49:20 AM PST by Allison_Wonderland
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To: ColdOne; Jacquerie; depressed in 06

There is no such thing as a “right” that must be provided by the labor of others.


22 posted on 01/28/2014 9:50:39 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: ColdOne

Seriously, what’s the loss if this one small religious organization gets to exercise religious freedom while the case is being heard? I cannot understand why the Leftists cannot stand to have freedom exist for even one second.


23 posted on 01/28/2014 9:50:58 AM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Wiser now; ColdOne
Wiser now:" Is there a list of the Dem. senators who signed that brief? "

I greee .. it needs repeating too !
" Is there a list of the Dem. senators who signed that brief ? "

24 posted on 01/28/2014 9:54:03 AM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: ColdOne

Just read where the Greens are ready to close all 500+ stores should the decision go against them. Sad, but way to go guys. So proud of these real Americans with real American values. We are running out of time


25 posted on 01/28/2014 9:54:44 AM PST by SaintDismas
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To: Jim Scott
In our republic, religious liberty is so blended with civil liberty that if one falls it is not to be expected that the other will continue.

Article V.

26 posted on 01/28/2014 9:55:11 AM PST by Jacquerie (Restore federalism and freedom. Repeal the 17th.)
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To: ColdOne

Aren’t US Senators exempt from suffering under Obamacare?


27 posted on 01/28/2014 9:55:51 AM PST by 353FMG
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To: Wiser now; All

The other senators who signed the brief are: Max Baucus (D-Mont.), Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.), Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio), Maria Cantwell (D-Wash.), Benjamin Cardin (D-Md.), Richard Durbin (D-Ill.), Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), Tom Harkin (D-Iowa), Tim Johnson (D-SD), Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.), Carl Levin (D-Mich.), Ed Markey (D-Mass.), Robert Menendez (D-NJ), Barbara Mikulsi (D-Md.), Harry Reid (D-Nev.), Bernie Sanders (D-Vt.), Chuck Schumer (D-NY) and Ron Wyden (D-Ore.).

http://news.yahoo.com/democratic-senators-to-file-amicus-brief-in-hobby-lobby-birth-control-case-025129006.html


28 posted on 01/28/2014 9:56:48 AM PST by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11))
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To: demshateGod
“Our guys” are too busy signing on budget deals that shortchange disables veterans.

And back-door amnesty.

29 posted on 01/28/2014 9:57:11 AM PST by mykroar (We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again. - Nathanael Greene)
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To: SaintDismas
There needs to be a collective "shrug," to live in the shadows and live in poverty for freedom's sake, if the unthinkable happens.

If a lawless government can squash religious freedom like this, there is nothing they can't do.

30 posted on 01/28/2014 9:57:14 AM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

See #28 for list


31 posted on 01/28/2014 9:57:47 AM PST by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11))
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To: Gadsden1st

You’re right.

If we had any balls we would not continue electing and re-electing eunuchs.


32 posted on 01/28/2014 9:59:53 AM PST by 353FMG
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To: PubliusMM

> But, it’s OK to grant total exemptions to the SEIU and
> other commie unions?

The Muzlims get an exemption, too.


33 posted on 01/28/2014 10:02:20 AM PST by Westbrook ()Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: ColdOne

Boxer, Pelosi, Feinstein, can someone take this yoke from Cal’s neck?


34 posted on 01/28/2014 10:02:27 AM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: ColdOne
The 19 senators planned to file a brief before the Supreme Court....

I have never heard of such a thing. Has anyone else? This is obvious interference and pressure from the socialist Democrats

35 posted on 01/28/2014 10:03:13 AM PST by dennisw
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts; Blood of Tyrants
My larger point is that absent institutions to secure our rights, they are but, as per James Madison, “parchment barriers.”

Press freedom (under major attack) was unencumbered not because of the 1A, but because the press could make life miserable for pols who came down on the press. Now, that is changing as the media increasingly view their wealth as associated with the rat party.

Our God given right to self defense is alive not because of the 2A, but because of gun rights groups who readily stomp on pols who think otherwise.

The 10A is dead because the states kicked themselves out of the senate.

Unless backed up with structure and institutions, paper barriers are, for practical purposes, useless.

36 posted on 01/28/2014 10:04:12 AM PST by Jacquerie (Restore federalism and freedom. Repeal the 17th.)
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To: ColdOne
What about Muslim businesses?

-PJ

37 posted on 01/28/2014 10:07:39 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: wbill

The logic is stunning, isn’t it?


38 posted on 01/28/2014 10:07:49 AM PST by Yogafist
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To: sr4402

If the Democrats get their way, Grandmothers will be few and far between, My FRiend. In other words, most will be killed before they can become Grandmothers. The only thing dearer to a Democrat’s heart than power is getting to murder someone, preferable an unborn or partially born infant.


39 posted on 01/28/2014 10:10:10 AM PST by sport
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To: ColdOne

“...can trump a woman’s right to access free or low-cost contraception under the Affordable Care Act...”

It’s not a right if it demands others do more than not get in the way.

Any right she has would be to purchase what is available, at most. It does not require another to purchase it for her...that is simply theft/enslavement, perhaps with pretty drapes.


40 posted on 01/28/2014 10:11:03 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: SaintDismas

Good for them. I hope that they do. More should follow their example.


41 posted on 01/28/2014 10:11:45 AM PST by sport
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To: dennisw

Have not heard of this before, but we all know the Court is sensitive to pressure from the other “co-equal” branches .... e.g. Robert’s decision on Obamacare! Obama’s not so subtle pressure tactic worked, so why not go back to that well?
If memory serves aren’t Christian Scientists exempt as well... so if one “secular” individual is exempt why not all Christians of similar moral belief?
The voter has been dumbed-down enough that the Dems get away with such things.... this may be liberty’s final stand!


42 posted on 01/28/2014 10:13:14 AM PST by Froggie
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To: depressed in 06

“What’s next, a woman’s right to Ron Jeremy. “

Excellent analogy.


43 posted on 01/28/2014 10:13:17 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Political Junkie Too

I am sure they are exempt.


44 posted on 01/28/2014 10:13:47 AM PST by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11))
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To: ColdOne

Democrats.

Sayyyy, isn’t that the party the voted THREE TIMES to deny God and Israel a place on their party platform?


45 posted on 01/28/2014 10:15:57 AM PST by null and void (We need to shake this snowglobe up.)
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To: longtermmemmory
The Demcrats are establishing “god” in the party image.

See post #45...

46 posted on 01/28/2014 10:18:30 AM PST by null and void (We need to shake this snowglobe up.)
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To: depressed in 06

Yeah, I get tired of their play on words. So basically, a woman *wanting* somebody else pay for their contraception trumps the religious rights of an individual that owns the company and defines its corporate culture.

To think that one of the founding principles of this country was religious freedom....how far we have come. It’s also curious how things that are explicitly stated in the constitution (religious freedom) are trumped by so-called “women’s rights” that appear nowhere in the constitution.


47 posted on 01/28/2014 10:19:42 AM PST by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing consequences of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: Allison_Wonderland

” Due to his religious beliefs”

That may be correct but I don’t even see why religion has to be involved in a simple matter of whether a business should be forced to pay for people to have sex without getting pregnant. The whole thing is absurd in the first place.


48 posted on 01/28/2014 10:20:09 AM PST by plain talk
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To: ColdOne

Good grief. Don’t these legislators know that they do not interfere with the Supreme Court.

There are thre balancing part of government:
Judicial
Legislative
Executive

Unfortunately some have not learned that telling others how to do their jobs is against the law.


49 posted on 01/28/2014 10:30:56 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: ColdOne

“...a CEO’s personal beliefs can trump a woman’s right to access free or low-cost contraception under the Affordable Care Act,’ she said in prepared remarks.”

So, to whom is it *free* or *low cost* ??


50 posted on 01/28/2014 10:33:31 AM PST by EDINVA ( m)
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