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Ohio guards: Inmate was urged to fake suffocation
AP ^ | 01/27/2014 | By JULIE CARR SMYTH

Posted on 01/28/2014 11:19:42 AM PST by Responsibility2nd

COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) — An attorney for a condemned Ohio inmate whose slow, gasping execution with a new drug combination renewed questions about the death penalty was temporarily suspended last week while officials investigated whether he had coached the condemned man to fake symptoms of suffocation.

The Office of the Public Defender said Robert Lowe, one of the attorneys representing inmate Dennis McGuire, was back at work Monday after an internal review failed to substantiate the allegation.

State prison records released Monday say McGuire told guards that Lowe counseled him to make a show of his death that would, perhaps, lead to abolition of the death penalty. But three accounts from prison officials indicate McGuire refused to put on a display.

"He wants me to put on this big show in front of my kids, all right when I'm dying!" McGuire is reported as having told one guard. "I ain't gonna do this. It's about me and my kids, not him and his cause!"

Amy Borror, a spokeswoman for the public defender's office, said all accounts from execution eyewitnesses — which did not include Lowe — indicate McGuire was unconscious at the time he struggled to breathe.

"We have no way of knowing, obviously, because we can't interview Mr. McGuire," she said.

(Excerpt) Read more at bigstory.ap.org ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: academyawards; deathpenalty; execution; oscarworthy; putonagoodshow
Just Derp.
1 posted on 01/28/2014 11:19:42 AM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd

Saw this in the local rag today. Amazing from every angle.


2 posted on 01/28/2014 11:21:14 AM PST by Faith
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To: Responsibility2nd
A few relative threads...

 

Family alleges Ohio execution unconstitutional
Fox News ^ | Jan 25, 2013
 

Controversial execution in Ohio uses new drug combination
cnn ^ | 1/16/14 | Dana Ford and Ashley Fantz
 

Posted on Thursday, January 16, 2014 4:07:58 PM by bestintxas

Ohio inmate Dennis McGuire appeared to gasp and convulse for roughly 10 minutes before he finally died Thursday during his execution by lethal injection using a new combination of drugs, reporters who witnessed it said.

more...

Ohio killer's execution takes almost 25 minutes
Associated Press ^ | Jan 16, 2014 9:32 PM (ET) | ANDREW WELSH-HUGGINS
 

Posted on Thursday, January 16, 2014 9:20:41 PM by DJ MacWoW

A condemned man appeared to gasp several times and took an unusually long time to die - more than 20 minutes - in an execution carried out Thursday with a combination of drugs never before tried in the U.S.

more...

3 posted on 01/28/2014 11:24:17 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

so....he is supposed to pull off a convincing theatrical performance while he is actually dying?

That attorney sounds brain dead to me.


4 posted on 01/28/2014 11:24:54 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Responsibility2nd

Just in case anyone thought a lawyer couldn’t stoop any lower...


5 posted on 01/28/2014 11:25:47 AM PST by null and void (<--- unwilling cattle-car passenger on the bullet train to serfdom)
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To: DJ MacWoW; bestintxas

A follow up article on some threads you two previously posted.


6 posted on 01/28/2014 11:28:15 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
That attorney sounds brain dead to me.

He's a liberal AND a lawyer. What part of that was unclear to you? ;) Oh, and you can add to your list the condemned guy being motivated enough to bother.

7 posted on 01/28/2014 11:31:18 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Criminals and lawyers deserve each other.


8 posted on 01/28/2014 11:31:33 AM PST by ozzymandus
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To: Responsibility2nd

I fear the court system has went from the goal of seeking justice to seeking how much lawyers can pad their bank accounts...


10 posted on 01/28/2014 11:33:26 AM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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Did I mention lawyers are an incredible garden soil amendment ?


11 posted on 01/28/2014 11:33:40 AM PST by S.O.S121.500 (Had Enough Yet ?............................ Enforce the Bill of Rights............ It's the LAW !!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Some lawyers are bottom of the barrel. Before you say “Just some?” consider that some FReepers are attorneys and Conservative. We need more like them.


12 posted on 01/28/2014 11:36:06 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: null and void

And this charlatan gets away with it?


13 posted on 01/28/2014 11:37:55 AM PST by 353FMG
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To: 353FMG

Gets away with it? He’ll be an SC justice before you know it!


14 posted on 01/28/2014 11:39:08 AM PST by null and void (<--- unwilling cattle-car passenger on the bullet train to serfdom)
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To: Responsibility2nd

15 posted on 01/28/2014 11:39:57 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: ozzymandus
He gasped, snorted and took FIFTEEN minutes to die:

Thursday, January 16, 2014 11:34:34 AM · 29 of 83

"I bet I could gasp, snort and put on a good show if this was my dying wish."-- TurboZamboni

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3112401/posts

16 posted on 01/28/2014 11:47:03 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad and lived with his parents .)
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To: Mad Dawgg

Just for the record, no one goes into being a public defender for the money.


17 posted on 01/28/2014 11:47:14 AM PST by pleasedontzotme
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To: dfwgator

GENIUS !


18 posted on 01/28/2014 11:48:45 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: S.O.S121.500

Don’t the tomatoes and peppers come out tasting litigious?


19 posted on 01/28/2014 11:52:22 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Responsibility2nd
So go back to the old combination of drugs.

You can't fake taking a longer time to die.

20 posted on 01/28/2014 11:52:22 AM PST by DannyTN (A>)
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To: pleasedontzotme
"Just for the record, no one goes into being a public defender for the money."

Yes of course they never make money on the big murder trials they defend...

ever...

unless of course you count the books and the offers from the big law firms when they win some big cases. Oh and then of course it always looks good on the political resume...

21 posted on 01/28/2014 11:54:36 AM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: DannyTN

I am supremely curious why they don’t just administer a general anesthetic, then inject the poison when the guy is comatose. It seems pretty unlikely to me he could suffer under such conditions. They seem to be able to put animals to sleep without too much trouble.

The simplest and least painful method of execution would probably be by inert gas. Just rapidly inject nitrogen or another inert gas into the room, displacing the oxygen. When the blood oxygen drops below a certain point, his lights go off. Leave room at 100% nitrogen for 30 minutes, then evacuate the nitro, go in and dispose of the body.

No problem. Evidence from people who were rescued from industrial accidents indicates pretty strongly there is no pain or sensation to the process.


22 posted on 01/28/2014 11:59:39 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Responsibility2nd

How can you ask a man sentenced to die to put on a show? That is probably the most disgusting thing I have heard lately. Just because the inmate refused doesn’t mean the attorney’s behavior was not reprehensible. He should have to face a disbarment hearing.


23 posted on 01/28/2014 12:00:01 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: DannyTN

Hanging.

The only clean energy - green friendly way to execute.

Its fast too!


24 posted on 01/28/2014 12:03:25 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Sherman Logan
"I am supremely curious why they don’t just administer a general anesthetic, then inject the poison when the guy is comatose."

I've wondered the same thing. Why even use poison, just sedate him until his heart stops.

He's about to meet his Creator and get justice or mercy anyway. No point in making it worse than it has to be.

25 posted on 01/28/2014 12:13:55 PM PST by DannyTN (A>)
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To: Still Thinking

Don’t the tomatoes and peppers come out tasting litigious?


Nope


26 posted on 01/28/2014 12:14:17 PM PST by S.O.S121.500 (Had Enough Yet ?............................ Enforce the Bill of Rights............ It's the LAW !!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Massive shot of heroin?


27 posted on 01/28/2014 12:14:25 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Sherman Logan

From the description, he was unconscious before he began to gasp...which means, who cares?


28 posted on 01/28/2014 12:21:21 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

That’s always been my suggestion. Half the guys in the pen are in there specifically BECAUSE they want that stuff so bad they’re willing to steal, kill, etc., to get it, so how could anyone possibly claim it’s cruel?


29 posted on 01/28/2014 12:25:06 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Sherman Logan

That’s essentially exactly what they do. For the most part they don’t inject them with poison, just a massive overdose of anesthetic, just like animals. I believe the old protocol chased it with potassium, which you’d consider a poison in this context, but only after they’d been given a lethal dose of sedative minutes earlier. So point is, they’re already doing what you recommend.


30 posted on 01/28/2014 12:28:24 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

The sell a perfectly acceptable combination of chemicals at Lowes and Home Depot for IV use in executions.. It’s called LiquidPlumbr and its cheap too.


31 posted on 01/28/2014 12:29:59 PM PST by muir_redwoods (When I first read it, " Atlas Shrugged" was fiction)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Should be a Mythbusters episode.


32 posted on 01/28/2014 12:35:48 PM PST by mikey_hates_everything
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To: lepton

Who cares?, How long did his victim suffer at the hands of this POS before she died? And then there was the unborn baby who never had the chance to even take a breath.

No pity for him from me, he made a choice and deserved its just reward.


33 posted on 01/28/2014 12:36:11 PM PST by chiefqc
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To: TurboZamboni

For some reason I’m reminded of the James Cagney,
Pat O’brian movie “Angels with dirty faces”
where Cagney is on death row
and Father Pat tries to convince him to be
cowardly in his last minutes so his gang won’t
make a hero out of his bravery.
When Cagney breaks down at the end, you don’t know
weather it’s an act or what..
Great film.Great acting.


34 posted on 01/28/2014 12:42:16 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Some lawyers are bottom of the barrel. Before you say “Just some?” consider that some FReepers are attorneys and Conservative. We need more like them.

The good one could probably give you some of the best lawyer jokes.

35 posted on 01/28/2014 1:01:53 PM PST by ReformedBeckite (1 of 3 I'm only allowing my self each day)
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To: ReformedBeckite

Probably! :-)


36 posted on 01/28/2014 1:02:41 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: TurboZamboni
If the liberal lawyers want a quick death we should bring back the electric chair, firing squad, hanging and the guillotine. Nothing will satisfy these liberals unless we abolish the death penalty. They would only abolish it for murderers, not unborn children.
37 posted on 01/28/2014 1:53:02 PM PST by peeps36 (I' Not A Racist, I Hate Douchebags of All Colors)
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To: lepton
From the description, he was unconscious before he began to gasp...which means, who cares?

Exactly!

38 posted on 01/28/2014 2:27:58 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Play the 'Knockout Game' with someone owning a 9mm and you get what you deserve)
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To: tet68

“Let’s go say a prayer for a kid who couldn’t run as fast as I could.”


39 posted on 01/28/2014 3:08:11 PM PST by Scoutmaster (I'd rather be at Philmont)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I have no pity for this POS...the victim’s husband later committed suicide over his grief...

Please be forewarned, the description of his crime is graphic and horrendous, it’s disgusting what he did...he inflicted far more suffering than he received...

http://murderpedia.org/male.M/m1/mcguire-dennis.htm


40 posted on 01/28/2014 3:40:06 PM PST by IMTOFT (At least I'm enjoying the ride...)
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To: IMTOFT

I only wish he suffered as much as he pretended to.


41 posted on 01/28/2014 3:40:45 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: tet68
One of my favorite movie endings!

Either way, IF Cagney is "faking" the Priest can tell the kids he was a coward at the end, and maybe won't end up like him. Hence Pat O'Brien's tears.

42 posted on 01/28/2014 5:07:02 PM PST by boop (Liberal religion. No rules, just right!)
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